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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1475 on: April 07, 2013, 03:17:14 pm »

I'm in a different silver room. That I know.
Was there a watchtower in your room?
No.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1476 on: April 07, 2013, 03:23:27 pm »

I'm fairly confident that there are more than one of many items.

mail-mi, you might as well say everything else you see.

Looking at the OP, FAQ #7 mail-mi will be in the "killed by town" vault, which is red. Kooshie is in this room too. I don't think kooshie can talk to her buddies. I think you can go to that room and talk to mail-mi and kooshie. If mail-mi is town  we can go to that vault and tell mail-mi everything we know, and mail-mi can tell us things that he has heard from other people. It's a makeshift neighborhood. Note that scum could go to that room too and talk to kooshie...
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1477 on: April 07, 2013, 03:30:55 pm »

I'm fairly confident that there are more than one of many items.

mail-mi, you might as well say everything else you see.

Looking at the OP, FAQ #7 mail-mi will be in the "killed by town" vault, which is red. Kooshie is in this room too. I don't think kooshie can talk to her buddies. I think you can go to that room and talk to mail-mi and kooshie. If mail-mi is town  we can go to that vault and tell mail-mi everything we know, and mail-mi can tell us things that he has heard from other people. It's a makeshift neighborhood. Note that scum could go to that room too and talk to kooshie...
Or pretend to be Town and talk to the Town members...

Yeah, mail-mi, might as well tell you what else you've seen too. But I guess then scum could pinpoint the location. Hmm...
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1478 on: April 07, 2013, 03:32:07 pm »

Okay. In the middle of my map is a grey square, probably the same square Jimmmm was talking about. To the left of that square, starting from the top, is a silver room and two copper rooms. I started in the middle copper room, which has a Lookout and a Scheme. I bought the lookout, and I don't know if anyone has bought the scheme. The lookout alowed me to see how many people were in my room at the beginning and end of each night. The scheme is a one-shot that allows a player to send a message of up to two hundred words to another player. Both cost $3. To the left of the copper rooms is a hallway that has a door way to (from top to bottom) the silver room (which I couldn't access from the copper room), another copper room, and a gold room. I went into the silver room. In the silver room is a bridge, the treasure map, and a potion. It has access to a tunnel, and two hallways, one that goes toward the left and one that goes up. The bridge allows players to go to any room or hallway they've been in before for $0 and I have no idea what the potion does. The tunnel leads I know not where and it costs $1 to enter it. The bridge costs $4, the treasure map $6, and the potion $2. That's all I know. Good luck town!
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1479 on: April 07, 2013, 03:35:03 pm »

Scum don't can't see everything. Well they might, if one of them bought a treasure map. A treasure map has been bought, according to Jimmmm. It costs 6, which is pretty expensive. Who's more likely to be able to afford that this early? scum. Arch joined late, as scum, and thought that scum saw the whole map from the start, because they bought a treasure map N1. Just a theory.....
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1480 on: April 07, 2013, 03:39:12 pm »

Scum don't can't see everything. Well they might, if one of them bought a treasure map. A treasure map has been bought, according to Jimmmm. It costs 6, which is pretty expensive. Who's more likely to be able to afford that this early? scum. Arch joined late, as scum, and thought that scum saw the whole map from the start, because they bought a treasure map N1. Just a theory.....
What I meant was scum can talk to one another about the map in their QTs and one of them is bound to be somewhat close to it.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1481 on: April 07, 2013, 03:42:29 pm »

they actually all see the same map...

there's more town than scum, so it's even more likely that a townie will be close to it than a scum.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1482 on: April 07, 2013, 03:44:49 pm »

they actually all see the same map...

there's more town than scum, so it's even more likely that a townie will be close to it than a scum.
True, but scum can Pillage people. And if they know that everyone is going in the same direction, they're more likely to hit someone.

I don't know. I'm personally not going to go get it. Or maybe I will. WIFOM.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Night 2)
« Reply #1483 on: April 07, 2013, 04:07:55 pm »

Vote Count 2.18

Ozle (2) -- ashersky, Eevee
mail-mi (8) -- Jimm, liopoil, Lekkit, Archetype, raerae, yuma, Ozle, mail-mi
Insomniac (2) -- Jorbles, sudgy
Jimm (1) -- mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1) -- Insomniac

Mail-mi, the Town-aligned Coppersmith, has been lynched.

I will update your coin totals on each of your maps. Feel free to begin submitting orders. If any 24-hour period elapses without me receiving orders from you, I will assume you are doing nothing.

NIGHT 2 START
« Last Edit: April 11, 2013, 02:17:22 pm by Robz888 »
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 2)
« Reply #1484 on: April 07, 2013, 04:49:30 pm »

Coin totals are now accurate for all players. Orders, please! Remember, if at any point I don't hear from you for 24 hours, your moves are forfeited.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1485 on: April 11, 2013, 01:55:25 pm »

Some theme music for Day 3:

Good morning, money makers! You all had nights bustling with such activity, such avarice! Glad to see you all made it... oh, oh no. You didn't. Dear me, it seems liopoil, the town-aligned Coppersmith, has been captured by the Mountebanks. What dreadful news...

DAY 3 START -- THREAD UNLOCKED
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1486 on: April 11, 2013, 02:12:45 pm »

Some theme music for Day 3:

HOLY COW THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE SONGS FROM THAT GAME

Anyway, I bought the gold key last night.  Any townie tonight can confirm it by going in a gold room.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1487 on: April 11, 2013, 02:14:27 pm »

Does that mean it's cheaper for Townies to enter Silver rooms for the rest of the game, or just as long as you're alive?
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1488 on: April 11, 2013, 02:16:58 pm »

Vote Count 3.1

Not Voting (12) -- Jimm, sudgy, Jorbles, raerae, yuma, ashersky, Eevee, Ozle, Archetype, mcmcsalot, Lekkit, Insomniac

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is May 6 at 7:00 PM.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1489 on: April 11, 2013, 02:18:33 pm »

Hey guys welcome back. Let's start with some wagon analysis?

Kooshie lynch:
mail-mi (1) -- mcmcsalot
liopoil (1)  -- yuma
raerae (1) -- Jimm
Kooshie (9) -- liopoil, Eevee, Jorbles, sudgy, Lekkit, mail-mi, ashersky, raerae, xeiron
sudgy (1) -- Insomniac
Eevee (1) -- Ozle

mail-mi lynch:
Ozle (2) -- ashersky, Eevee
mail-mi ( 8 ) -- Jimm, liopoil, Lekkit, Archetype, raerae, yuma, Ozle, mail-mi
Insomniac (4) -- mail-mi, Jorbles, Ozle, sudgy
Jimm (1) -- mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1) -- Insomniac

List of people who both mislynched mail-mi and were offwagon on Kooshie:
Jimmmm, Archetype, yuma, Ozle.

I suggest we start looking for potential lynches here. It's going to take a really strong argument for me to lynch someone outside of this group.

PPE:
@Jimmmm he said gold key, not silver key. But actually that's a great question.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1490 on: April 11, 2013, 02:19:32 pm »

Does that mean it's cheaper for Townies to enter Silver rooms for the rest of the game, or just as long as you're alive?

It is cheaper to enter Silver Rooms from now on for everyone, because it is after Night 2.

If the Gold Key was indeed purchased by town, that will lower the cost of entering Gold Rooms while the person with the key lives. After Night 3, the price will lower automatically.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1491 on: April 11, 2013, 02:20:15 pm »

Hey guys welcome back. Let's start with some wagon analysis?

Kooshie lynch:
mail-mi (1) -- mcmcsalot
liopoil (1)  -- yuma
raerae (1) -- Jimm
Kooshie (9) -- liopoil, Eevee, Jorbles, sudgy, Lekkit, mail-mi, ashersky, raerae, xeiron
sudgy (1) -- Insomniac
Eevee (1) -- Ozle

mail-mi lynch:
Ozle (2) -- ashersky, Eevee
mail-mi ( 8 ) -- Jimm, liopoil, Lekkit, Archetype, raerae, yuma, Ozle, mail-mi
Insomniac (4) -- mail-mi, Jorbles, Ozle, sudgy
Jimm (1) -- mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1) -- Insomniac

List of people who both mislynched mail-mi and were offwagon on Kooshie:
Jimmmm, Archetype, yuma, Ozle.

I suggest we start looking for potential lynches here. It's going to take a really strong argument for me to lynch someone outside of this group.

PPE:
@Jimmmm he said gold key, not silver key. But actually that's a great question.

I think I was on the mail-mi wagon too...
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1492 on: April 11, 2013, 02:23:46 pm »

Does that mean it's cheaper for Townies to enter Silver rooms for the rest of the game, or just as long as you're alive?

Oh, by Silver I mean Gold.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1493 on: April 11, 2013, 02:27:11 pm »

List of people who both mislynched mail-mi and were offwagon on Kooshie:
Jimmmm, Archetype, yuma, Ozle.

I suggest we start looking for potential lynches here. It's going to take a really strong argument for me to lynch someone outside of this group.

So the optimal scum play was to linger off the lynch wagon and allow the day to go on for as long as possible?
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1494 on: April 11, 2013, 02:27:40 pm »

Hey guys welcome back. Let's start with some wagon analysis?

Kooshie lynch:
mail-mi (1) -- mcmcsalot
liopoil (1)  -- yuma
raerae (1) -- Jimm
Kooshie (9) -- liopoil, Eevee, Jorbles, sudgy, Lekkit, mail-mi, ashersky, raerae, xeiron
sudgy (1) -- Insomniac
Eevee (1) -- Ozle

mail-mi lynch:
Ozle (2) -- ashersky, Eevee
mail-mi ( 8 ) -- Jimm, liopoil, Lekkit, Archetype, raerae, yuma, Ozle, mail-mi
Insomniac (2) -- Jorbles, sudgy
Jimm (1) -- mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1) -- Insomniac

List of people who both mislynched mail-mi and were offwagon on Kooshie:
Jimmmm, Archetype, yuma, Ozle.

I suggest we start looking for potential lynches here. It's going to take a really strong argument for me to lynch someone outside of this group.

PPE:
@Jimmmm he said gold key, not silver key. But actually that's a great question.

I think I was on the mail-mi wagon too...

It doesn't look like you were. I just redid it after Robz cleaned up the vote tally in the above quote.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1495 on: April 11, 2013, 02:28:33 pm »

Robz, I can't remember, can you use an item the night you buy it?  (This isn't related to the gold key)

PPE: I guess I wasn't on it then?  I was thinking of voting for him to end the day I remember...
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« Reply #1496 on: April 11, 2013, 02:30:33 pm »

List of people who both mislynched mail-mi and were offwagon on Kooshie:
Jimmmm, Archetype, yuma, Ozle.

I suggest we start looking for potential lynches here. It's going to take a really strong argument for me to lynch someone outside of this group.

So the optimal scum play was to linger off the lynch wagon and allow the day to go on for as long as possible?

Is that what you think? There's an argument for it, but I'm not sure how it relates.

I am saying that we should try to lynch someone who both tried not to lynch their team mate and who helped lynch a town player.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1497 on: April 11, 2013, 02:31:22 pm »

I am very surprised if yesterdays lynch wasnt scum-driven. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TO GO FOR ANYONE BUT OZLE, MCMC, YUMA, JIMMM OR INSOMNIAC. Seriously sad times, multiplied by then by mail-mi's idiotic self hammer. Rage!


I still feeeel Jimm is probably maybe town, but really, we've got to concentrate on the people who don't participate on lynching scum but do participate on lynching town.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1498 on: April 11, 2013, 02:32:35 pm »

List of people who both mislynched mail-mi and were offwagon on Kooshie:
Jimmmm, Archetype, yuma, Ozle.

I suggest we start looking for potential lynches here. It's going to take a really strong argument for me to lynch someone outside of this group.

So the optimal scum play was to linger off the lynch wagon and allow the day to go on for as long as possible?

Is that what you think? There's an argument for it, but I'm not sure how it relates.

I am saying that we should try to lynch someone who both tried not to lynch their team mate and who helped lynch a town player.

This might be what scum want us to think.  They might be purposely doing things differently so that others will think this exact thing.  Now, I might be wrong, but it's something to think about.
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Re: Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware (Day 3)
« Reply #1499 on: April 11, 2013, 02:36:52 pm »

I think it very much got to the stage where voting for mail-mi became the pro-Town thing to do, since we really needed to lynch someone. And based on my recent scum experience, my day game as scum is entirely based around "What is the Towny thing to do?" or more importantly, "What can I do that others will see as Towny?" It was certainly NOT "Lynch Town! Try to stop teammate lynches!" So I'm very wary of assuming that scum will follow predictable voting patterns.
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