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[Robz888]

Good morning! Did you all have very enriching nights? I certainly hope so!

Erm, it seems that one of you is missing. Oh dear, he must have been taken to one of the Captured Players Vaults! How dreadful...

xeiron, the Town-aligned Coppersmith, is no longer with us. If he could be here with us now, I am sure he would tell you to find the other three scum. He believes in you!

DAY 2 START -- THREAD UNLOCKED

Note that your coin totals were again updated. If anyone is unsure of how many coins they lost/gained, PM me and maybe I will tell you.

[yuma]

Nice I can put this right at the top of day2
 
Day1 post count

1. Jimm: 35
2. raerae: 26
3. yuma: 29
4. ashersky: 42
5. Insomniac: 10
6. Eevee: 21
7. Jorbles: 15
8. liopoil: 92
9. sparky5856: 26
10. mcmcsalot: 32
11. sudgy: 33
12. xeiron: 13
13. Lekkit: 16
14. Ozle: 65
15. Kooshie: 38
16. mail-mi: 39

[Jimmmmm]

That seemed really quick. Well done everyone for the Kooshie lynch, sorry for my lurkiness. xerion seems a strange choice for the night kill.

[Jimmmmm]

xeiron*

[liopoil]

I see I wasn't the only one who made sure to make a D1 post count overnight

any ideas why xeiron died? it makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[liopoil]

I was thinking it was more likely that one of me, ozle, yuma, or ash would be the NK. Well, since I'm town, I guess those three must be the rest of the scumteam! 

[Jimmmmm]

I was thinking it was more likely that one of me, ozle, yuma, or ash would be the NK. Well, since I'm town, I guess those three must be the rest of the scumteam! 

Game solved?

[yuma]

this is just speculation but from what I understand, mafia kills are somewhat dependent on location in the bank yes? So maybe xeiron made the most sense from that perspecitve... he had somethign they wanted and somehow knew that... I don't know. And don't want to go into speculating too much except to say that there are intangibles that we don't know about.

[yuma]

I was thinking it was more likely that one of me, ozle, yuma, or ash would be the NK. Well, since I'm town, I guess those three must be the rest of the scumteam! 

Game solved?

no.

[sparky5856]

I was thinking it was more likely that one of me, ozle, yuma, or ash would be the NK. Well, since I'm town, I guess those three must be the rest of the scumteam! 

If you're seriously scum I will laugh.

Not many opposed the Kooshie lynch. mcmc sticks out in my mind for opposing it but he was against it even when it was inevitable. I'm inclined to think there were bussers on the wagon since the wagon gained steam quickly.

[yuma]

one thing I want to take a serious look at is where people fell in the other day1 mafia lynches of grujah and lekkit in previous games... I'll go pull up that info and post it and see what we can correlate to this game.

[liopoil]

yeah, I really doubt that there isn't scum on-wagon. I also think there is probably at least one scum off wagon.

[liopoil]

So, exactly one town member got pillaged last night right? That player knows they got pillaged, because their money total just went down (robz said he just updated coin totals). However, it is likely possible to lose money in a different way. If it wasn't possible then the pillaged player could just claim to have been pillaged and become IC, right?

[Robz888]

Vote Count 2.1

Not Voting (14) -- sparky5856, mcmcsalot, yuma, Jimm, liopoil, Eevee, Jorbles, sudgy, Lekkit, mail-mi, ashersky, raerae, Insomniac, Ozle

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. You begin eating into your banked time at 8:00 PM on Sunday.

[liopoil]

but, like someone will likely chime in and say, (yuma, ozle?) all sorts of wacky stuff could have happened last night which makes it a bad idea...

[yuma]

Grujah - Glooble, ehunt, yuma, watno, Galzria, eHalcyon, Cuzz, Eevee, Morgrim7, ftl, jotheonah, Axxle

off wagon: O, theorel Captain_Frisk, TheMunch (these last two were SK and don't really count).

Lekkit (7): cayvie, Cuzz, shraeye, Eevee, raerae, Jimmmmm, Galzria

off wagon: Captain_Frisk

I hadn't realized that cayvie bussed so hard in MXVII! But I think the point remains that the best place to look is off wagon. It is especially good for myself because I can rule myself out. Now we aren't guaranteed to find all the scum there, but I think there is a good chance that some scum is there and for all intents and purposes I will only be considering an off-wagon lynch today, baring some sort of crazy investigation coming out or something.

[yuma]

but, like someone will likely chime in and say, (yuma, ozle?) all sorts of wacky stuff could have happened last night which makes it a bad idea...

WACKY!!!

[liopoil]

A few people off-wagon said they weren't opposed to the kooshie lynch and were willing to hammer if needed...

[yuma]

- I almost posted this in the tabula rasa thread...

mail-mi (1) -- mcmcsalot
liopoil (1)  -- yuma
raerae (1) -- Jimm
Kooshie (9) -- liopoil, Eevee, Jorbles, sudgy, Lekkit, mail-mi, ashersky, raerae, xeiron
sudgy (1) -- Insomniac
Eevee (1) -- Ozle

Not Voting (2) -- sparky5856, Kooshie

so the to take a very close look at list includes: mcmc, Jimmmm, Insomniac, Ozle and sparky and yuma (if you aren't me). Now I remember and we will want to verify this... but I remember both Ozle and sparky being very willing to vote kooshie and only not doing so because wanting to give town a chance to talk more.

But the point remains that they didn't vote before either (by that before Kooshie was at L-1 or L-2, etc).

I would suggest everyone that is inclined to do a reread of these players specifically and see what can be found.

After that I think it is best to look at the late wagon joiners (raerae, ash and mail-mi)

[sparky5856]

A few people off-wagon said they weren't opposed to the kooshie lynch and were willing to hammer if needed...

Well then we could just look at those who were opposed. Requires rereading, which I need to do.

Yeah, xerion came in and swiped my opportunity to vote... lol

[liopoil]

mcmc was vocally against the lynch even when it seemed like it was obviously going to happen. I think this is actually quite towny.

[raerae]

Call me dumb here yuma, (seriously, it's been that kind of day), but why compare this to Buffy?

[sparky5856]

so the to take a very close look at list includes: mcmc, Jimmmm, Insomniac, Ozle and sparky and yuma (if you aren't me). Now I remember and we will want to verify this... but I remember both Ozle and sparky being very willing to vote kooshie and only not doing so because wanting to give town a chance to talk more.

I agree with lio, the fact that he kept being opposed to the lynch strikes me as a towny move. His situation to be opposed to the lynch was odd.

[yuma]

Call me dumb here yuma, (seriously, it's been that kind of day), but why compare this to Buffy?

I will not call you dumb!

Both had day1 lynch of mafia. So did the other game I reference. It was an attempt to see where scum fell in line when it came for voting or not voting for their partner. I thought that cayvie had been a late joiner of the Lekkit lynch that day, but I was wrong. She was very very early.

I tend to think that scum will rarely push for a lynch of their own partner day1 as the first voter, but cayvie appears to have done so. Or did she join it late as others unvoted and then revoted? I can't remember.

[ashersky]

Scum quick hammer to keep from more info getting out is a possibility.