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[Ozle]

There was also a specific reason I wanted to Hammer as well that now I cannot test!

Very Suspicious Minds of you now!

[Ozle]

Hopefully Kooshie gets up earlier than Robz and shares information!

Do we know what time they both Rise and Shine and get up?

[ashersky]

Hopefully Kooshie gets up earlier than Robz and shares information!

Do we know what time they both Rise and Shine and get up?

Robz is east coast.

[liopoil]

Woahwoahwoah. If ozle is town, then he has the same PM as I, and my PM says NOTHING about wanting to hammer. maybe he thinks he'lll get coins for it? might also be why xeiron hammered... anyway, xeiron's hammer is definatly scummy.

[Ozle]

Woahwoahwoah. If ozle is town, then he has the same PM as I, and my PM says NOTHING about wanting to hammer. maybe he thinks he'lll get coins for it? might also be why xeiron hammered... anyway, xeiron's hammer is definatly scummy.

*sigh*

remember the conversation we had earlier about now giving away stuff that could give Mafia hints as to what we were doing and the reasons for it....your doing it again. Speculating on why I wanted to Hammer is the same sort of thing.

If Xeiron is scum, you have now given him the perfect excuse to claim why he hammered out of the blue, (something he may not have already had before he had a chance to talk to his scumbuddies)...why would you do that?!

Obviously my reasons have nothing to do with my PM, the PM's are all laid out in the beginning

Lets wait until tomorrow to talk about it, this game has Only Just Begun

[liopoil]

It's hardly giving away if it's something anyone could come with, and there will be 3 or 4  scum talking to each other tonight... I'm sure they could think of it by themself.

[Ozle]

It's hardly giving away if it's something anyone could come with, and there will be 3 or 4  scum talking to each other tonight... I'm sure they could think of it by themself.

Except we may have been able to get the reason out of him BEFORE he got to talk to his scum buddies tonight (Sure that a scum team would have came to the same thoughts as you, but one man on his own might not of if put under pressure) Anyone COULD come up with it, he may have come up with a different reason.....Robz isnt around, we may have a few hours of twilight left, although it is a bit of a Ghost Town around this time of day!

Although, I notice Kooshie is around now....hopefully he can come on and give us some good last words

[Ozle]

Nevermind, its done now, lets Move on Up to the next thing.

Xeiron is online
Kooshie is online

Hopefully we can hear from the both before Robzzzzz wakes up.

[mcmcsalot]

Ugh very scummy on xeiron hammering befor people say anything and hammering out of the blue(no posts previously) and a vote change in that same post my vote will be on him tomorrow. Also still don't think kooshie is scum sorry I didn't argue harder. But his wagon will give us a lot tomorrow.

[mail-mi]

Can I unvote since xeiron hammered, or are we locked in twilight? And yeah, that was pretty scummy. Hurry kooshie, say something! Say anything!!!!

[yuma]

just coming in to start on my reread and we reached a lynch...

however, before this gets locked... if I die tonight my advice is to not just jump into an immediate xeirion lynch tomorrow. hammering like that wasn't pro-town, but it doesn't automatically make him scum either. I could easily see a newbie scum doing it. Goodness, I have derp-hammered as town before.

I do think we need to hear from him before the thread is locked... and lio. DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF EVER! I completely agree with Ozle. There are always going to be potential ramifications to the things you say about claiming, setup info, etc that you can't think about. It is just better to not say anything unless you are in the process of outing scum.

[Ozle]

Can I unvote since xeiron hammered, or are we locked in twilight? And yeah, that was pretty scummy. Hurry kooshie, say something! Say anything!!!!

Nope, too late. We are now locked into twilight, nothing can change it now.

Xeiron and Kooshie have both been online and not said anything. That only heightens my Superstitions on them to be honest.

[ashersky]

just coming in to start on my reread and we reached a lynch...

however, before this gets locked... if I die tonight my advice is to not just jump into an immediate xeirion lynch tomorrow. hammering like that wasn't pro-town, but it doesn't automatically make him scum either. I could easily see a newbie scum doing it. Goodness, I have derp-hammered as town before.

I do think we need to hear from him before the thread is locked... and lio. DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF EVER! I completely agree with Ozle. There are always going to be potential ramifications to the things you say about claiming, setup info, etc that you can't think about. It is just better to not say anything unless you are in the process of outing scum.

Suspect post from Yuma, including a slip.

[yuma]

just coming in to start on my reread and we reached a lynch...

however, before this gets locked... if I die tonight my advice is to not just jump into an immediate xeirion lynch tomorrow. hammering like that wasn't pro-town, but it doesn't automatically make him scum either. I could easily see a newbie scum doing it. Goodness, I have derp-hammered as town before.

I do think we need to hear from him before the thread is locked... and lio. DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF EVER! I completely agree with Ozle. There are always going to be potential ramifications to the things you say about claiming, setup info, etc that you can't think about. It is just better to not say anything unless you are in the process of outing scum.

Suspect post from Yuma, including a slip.

sorry, that should say newbie scum or newbie town.

But the point remains, come tomorrow a derp-hammer is not sufficient enough evidence to lynch someone. Combining it with other shady behavior--and not commenting about this while we are still in twilight sure is one of them--could be sufficient for a lynch.

[Lekkit]

I'm a bit suspicious of Ozle. I guess part of it is somewhat OMGUS:y, but also the fact that he first accused me for saying that the case on Kooshie was pretty good for day 1. Then he later said that it was the best case of the day. He has been playing a pretty pro-town game, though. I would definately keep him around.

[Ozle]

I'm a bit suspicious of Ozle. I guess part of it is somewhat OMGUS:y, but also the fact that he first accused me for saying that the case on Kooshie was pretty good for day 1. Then he later said that it was the best case of the day. He has been playing a pretty pro-town game, though. I would definately keep him around.

I dont see how those two statements are mutually exclusive.

The best case of the day is still weak.
Unless you can show me a stronger case?
The case on Kooshie is NOT a strong or good case, especially not for the reasons you all gave.
However, Day 1 cases are always weak, i just didnt want them misrepresented in future days as a 'good' case.


However, the long it goes on without Kooshie posting, the more likely it looks that we found scum anyways, so thats Cool for Cats!

[Lekkit]

I've never seen a day 1 case that is as strong as a later day case. I'm sure there has been, but I haven't seen one. I'm pretty sure I said I thought it was pretty strong for a day 1 case, which I stand by. If I didn't, that's what I meant. I do see how there is a difference between "the strongest case of day 1" and "a strong case for day 1", though.

[Insomniac]

Just caught up...what the crap was that Xeiron, this is a large game, you don't just hammer someone you let everyone get in some last words before dropping a hammer like Ozle did.

[Lekkit]

For some reason, everytime someone does something like that I get a word that CF used popping up in my head. Jackwang.

[Ozle]

I've never seen a day 1 case that is as strong as a later day case. I'm sure there has been, but I haven't seen one. I'm pretty sure I said I thought it was pretty strong for a day 1 case, which I stand by. If I didn't, that's what I meant. I do see how there is a difference between "the strongest case of day 1" and "a strong case for day 1", though.

Really?
You really dont see the difference?
I am the smartest person in my house
Does that make me smart?
No, it makes me smarter than the Fish.
And still a bit of an idiot.

Calling a weak case the best case of the day is not the same as having a good case.

Lynching someone on this case IS acceptable for D1 in my view, but in no way should it be countered a strong case, you get no 'points' from it in my book when looking back on it and I was making that clear.

Your case on Kooshie is that not enough opinions and defensive. Fine.

What have you contributed today, I dont really remember anything you have contributed apart from sheeping lipolis case and then being defensive when I called you out on it?

(and its not just you of course, You Are Not Alone,  there are others as well...)

[sudgy]

This is a long twilight.  Anyway, xeiron, that was a bit suspicious.  For future games, don't do that (if you couldn't tell by what other people said already).

[Jorbles]

Whoa, that was quick. I'm okay with the lynch, but not with how xeiron quickhammered that.

[Robz888]

Everyone always likes to hammer when the Bank Manager is still asleep! He has a very late-night oriented schedule, you know.
THREAD LOCKED.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 1.11

mail-mi (1) -- mcmcsalot
liopoil (1)  -- yuma
raerae (1) -- Jimm
Kooshie (9) -- liopoil, Eevee, Jorbles, sudgy, Lekkit, mail-mi, ashersky, raerae, xeiron
sudgy (1) -- Insomniac
Eevee (1) -- Ozle

Not Voting (2) -- sparky5856, Kooshie

Good heavens, a lynch! Welll, you all know best, I hope. Bank personnel are escorting her to the Jail as we speak. And look, a confession! My word, it appears that Kooshie was a Mafia-aligned Mountebank! Truly, you are making this look easy.

Have fun wandering the Bank tonight! I will be updating everyone's coin totals after this, so while you may feel free to send me moves, you may wish to wait until until I correct your coin totals on your map. Also, remember that the move/buy phase of night will end after some number of orders--you won' know how many (last night it was 3). Tonight, and all nights henceforth, there will be another phase after move/buy ends, where scum will send in their kill, use any special moves they have (i.e., Pillage), and everyone can use items (some items take effect at specific times, so you cant use those).

NIGHT 1 START!

[Robz888]

Coin totals have now been updated. Whatever it says on your map is the number of coins you have.

Please send me your Night 1 moves. You can send me as many moves at once as you want; I will process them until I come to an order that relies on some other player's moves (like, trying to buy an item that another player could also buy), or until you exceed the unknown number of total moves this night will have. If I haven't heard from you in 24 hours, I assume you are doing nothing. But it would be nice if you told me that instead!