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[mail-mi]

@mail-mi, I believe I made that exact same defence earlier, yet you called that defense scummy.

honestly, read the post again, there is certainly no scumslip of any kind.

This is the scummy defense. You didnt say

Oh. Forgot that. Unvote

[liopoil]

That's not my defense. my defense was in the post before that, where I say essentially the same thing as what sparky just said. that's just me saying that his point had no real weight to it. why din't you unvote then?

[Jimmmmm]

Hmm of course if we map-claim it helps scum do their pillaging so maybe not.

[mcmcsalot]

I support semi-map claim, I have a scum read on mail-mi and a town read on ash.

[Jimmmmm]

What's your definition of a semi-map claim?

[liopoil]

Semi-map claim does help with scum pilllaging, but I think it's a small price to pay. we aren't going to give away exactly location I think...

[sudgy]

I will say this:  I'm in the room with the gold key.  It costs $6.  Unfortunately, I have no money.

[mail-mi]

Theres a silver room kinda close to me, but thats all I got.

[mail-mi]

That's not my defense. my defense was in the post before that, where I say essentially the same thing as what sparky just said. that's just me saying that his point had no real weight to it. why din't you unvote then?

Cuz i thought the one that i quoted was your defense. And im already unvoted.

[sudgy]

If you guys want the gold key, give me all your money.

[Robz888]

It is not possible to transfer money from one player to another. We aren't that kind of Bank!

[sudgy]

It is not possible to transfer money from one player to another. We aren't that kind of Bank!

I was more saying if you can somehow give me money in any way, do it.

[mail-mi]

If you guys want the gold key, give me all your money.

does the gold key work for all of us or just the one who gets it?

[sudgy]

If you guys want the gold key, give me all your money.

does the gold key work for all of us or just the one who gets it?

I think he said the whole faction gets it.  So if I get it, all the town gets it.

[mail-mi]

If you guys want the gold key, give me all your money.

does the gold key work for all of us or just the one who gets it?

I think he said the whole faction gets it.  So if I get it, all the town gets it.

...unless ur scum.

[yuma]

vote: liopoil

he suggests lynching someone that is scummy (ie, not pro-town) as he proposes something that he esteems to be pro-town, all the while knowing that fds meta establishes people who come up with these crazy ideas as always town.

he then suggests if that doesn't work, that we lynch someone who is lurking as he continues to post far more than he has in any other game i have seen.

Maybe this is a situation where I am concentrating on the player who is most active... but at this point, and it is very early in the game, I think lio is my biggest scum read at this juncture in that he is trying to come out and establish himself as town with high post counts and a "pro-town" plan.

PS: I am against any sort of mass claim. It is bad. Always bad until like day4 when it can be organized by someone with implicit town trust. Anytime I have ever entertained the idea was 1. for flavor purposes in Ozle's game--where I think it turned out to be bad--or 2. I was scum.

[yuma]

ie: you will get absolutely nothing from me regarding the map. Nothing

[sparky5856]

What I don't get is practically every game I've been in since Waffle Mafia the phrase "massclaim" has come up within the first few pages.

I too am on the fence about revealing my location, particularly because of the fact that I don't want unintended consequences.

[Jimmmmm]

It seemed like a decent idea until I realised what pillage did, now I think it's a terrible idea.

[yuma]

What I don't get is practically every game I've been in since Waffle Mafia the phrase "massclaim" has come up within the first few pages.

I too am on the fence about revealing my location, particularly because of the fact that I don't want unintended consequences.

exactly. not only do we risk dealing with the consequences that are "known" but we also end up dealing with the "unknowns." That is things that we can't predict happening, people turning on each other, for some crazy reason someone as town lying... the benefits we thought we come to town turning out to not be as great as we thought, etc etc etc...

[mcmcsalot]

My definition is exactly what we are doing, I would like you to stay in that room and get the gold key. There are a multiple reasons for this I don't want to say more.

I know where the silver key is, am not going to get it until a later time, or if I have enough gold to do so.

What exactly does pillage do? I can read it myself but I don't remember seeing it.

[yuma]

Stop saying stuff dammit!

[mcmcsalot]

I see what pillage does, yuma I do not think this is terrible, sudgy is not to respond if he is indeed going to get the key, if he has gold to be pillaged, or where he in fact is. I believe there are multiple keys.

We can wifom scum as much as we can ourselves, no information that has been revealed has made anyone a "good" pillage target.

[yuma]

I know, but it is a start. It is a slippery road once info starts getting out.

But whatever, if you guys want to talk, talk... Obviously I can't stop you and you probably will. But put me on the record of saying I think any talk is a bad idea and I am done talking about it.

[mcmcsalot]

I know, but it is a start. It is a slippery road once info starts getting out.

But whatever, if you guys want to talk, talk... Obviously I can't stop you and you probably will. But put me on the record of saying I think any talk is a bad idea and I am done talking about it.

Dissmissive yuma is unlike the town yuma I know, scum read for you. Not because of your position but the way you said it.

Yuma and mail-mi are fine lynch targets for me today.
In fact, vote: Mail-mi he seemed to change the thing he was doing that made me find him scummy. Whether that is scum trying to reel in his scumminess or town becoming towny as the game goes on I have yet to tell. But for now I am happy with this.