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[Insomniac]

Normally you aren't allowed to do anything veritably random in these.

So anyways the one thing that is interesting about the setup is we could disclose how much we explored. At first I thought this favoured mafia as it would let them know who has the most money/power role. BUT the better power roles are found by exploring so it could save our weak PRs at the cost of ones that could be stronger later. I don't know, food for thought.

[liopoil]

I think it does help mafia in this way, but remember that they can only kill one person a night, and it is likely that we will all eventually get some powers. And we could get around this by not saying what we bought, just what we see. This still helps them with pillage, and they can guess, "oh, if they've been to the gold room I bet they bought something good, let's kill them", but it isn't nearly as strong.

[ashersky]

I think it does help mafia in this way, but remember that they can only kill one person a night, and it is likely that we will all eventually get some powers. And we could get around this by not saying what we bought, just what we see. This still helps them with pillage, and they can guess, "oh, if they've been to the gold room I bet they bought something good, let's kill them", but it isn't nearly as strong.

vote: liopoil

How do you know how many deaths can be caused?  I'm guessing there are vig-style cards available for purchase, so there's no guarantee on one death.  Scum slip.

[liopoil]

okay, what? I said THEY can only kill on person a night. they means scum, as was clear in my post. there is only one scumteam, as confirmed by mod. I don't know about vig powers, but I wouldn't if I was scum either would I? I was reffering to the fact that the mafia can only kill one potential person with a PR a night, and there is likely to be many people with PRs.

[liopoil]

honestly, read the post again, there is certainly no scumslip of any kind.

[ashersky]

honestly, read the post again, there is certainly no scumslip of any kind.

Defensiveness.  Scum tell.

[liopoil]

ummm, everyone defends themself when accused... especially when they think it is a somewhat ridiculous accusation. I think you're just trying to see how I react to this...

[sudgy]

ummm, everyone defends themself when accused... especially when they think it is a somewhat ridiculous accusation. I think you're just trying to see how I react to this...

I think so too.  A little bit of FoS to ashersky (but I know it could be trying to see how he would respond).

[ashersky]

ummm, everyone defends themself when accused... especially when they think it is a somewhat ridiculous accusation. I think you're just trying to see how I react to this...

I think so too.  A little bit of FoS to ashersky (but I know it could be trying to see how he would respond).

Buddying.  Eevee tell.

[liopoil]

eevee tell?

ash is definatly looking for reactions from people...

[sudgy]

ummm, everyone defends themself when accused... especially when they think it is a somewhat ridiculous accusation. I think you're just trying to see how I react to this...

I think so too.  A little bit of FoS to ashersky (but I know it could be trying to see how he would respond).

Buddying.  Eevee tell.

And this is my reaction: +1

[ashersky]

Vote: Captain_Frisk

If he was in this game, he'd definitely be scum.

[Jimmmmm]

Oh hey looks like we've started.

Vote: ash for trying to act too scummy to be scum.

[ashersky]

Oh hey looks like we've started.

Vote: ash for trying to act too scummy to be scum.

vote: Jimmmmm

Faking that you didn't know the game started.  Scum tell.

[mail-mi]

honestly, read the post again, there is certainly no scumslip of any kind.

Defensiveness.  Scum tell.

ummm, everyone defends themself when accused... especially when they think it is a somewhat ridiculous accusation. I think you're just trying to see how I react to this...

But its a scummy defense. I think my votes already on liopoil.

[liopoil]

woah! that's omgus right? I think it's total possibility that Jimmmmmm didn't know yet. game only started a few hours ago.

there is something in this post that is a scum tell to ashersky, I'm sure of it.

[Jimmmmm]

Oh hey looks like we've started.

Vote: ash for trying to act too scummy to be scum.

vote: Jimmmmm

Faking that you didn't know the game started.  Scum tell.

Yeah you got me... wait no I mean, I was in class 3 hours ago when the game started and just got home.

[liopoil]

pregame post count:

Jimmmmm- 3
patpatppat-1
yuma-4
ashersky-2
insomniac-1
eevee-1
jorbles-2
liopoil-7
sparky5856-1
mcmcsalot-6
sudgy   -6
xeiron-2
lekkit-2
ozle-14
kooshie-4
mail-mi-4

[sparky5856]

I think it does help mafia in this way, but remember that they can only kill one person a night, and it is likely that we will all eventually get some powers. And we could get around this by not saying what we bought, just what we see. This still helps them with pillage, and they can guess, "oh, if they've been to the gold room I bet they bought something good, let's kill them", but it isn't nearly as strong.

vote: liopoil

How do you know how many deaths can be caused?  I'm guessing there are vig-style cards available for purchase, so there's no guarantee on one death.  Scum slip.

Role PM of the Mountebanks is public knowledge; only one faction kill. And it's clear form the context of his post that vig-style cards weren't being considered. I doubt any are gonna be available this early in the game either.

[Jimmmmm]

I think the map-claim idea is possibly decent. Obviously not claiming what items we have available, but perhaps if we each gave a description of what we can see. Anyone have any reasons why this would be a bad idea?

[liopoil]

I thought of something!

anyone who ever purchases a key should immediately claim that they did so. They can then become an IC by someone entering a room of that type at a discounted price, and it doesn't help scum at all to claim this. actually, they don't quite become IC, because both the claimed key purchaser and the claimed room enterer could be scum, but they could both be outed by a townie not getting the discounted price. the info that player X bought a key hardly helps scum at all.

[ashersky]

I think it does help mafia in this way, but remember that they can only kill one person a night, and it is likely that we will all eventually get some powers. And we could get around this by not saying what we bought, just what we see. This still helps them with pillage, and they can guess, "oh, if they've been to the gold room I bet they bought something good, let's kill them", but it isn't nearly as strong.

vote: liopoil

How do you know how many deaths can be caused?  I'm guessing there are vig-style cards available for purchase, so there's no guarantee on one death.  Scum slip.

Role PM of the Mountebanks is public knowledge; only one faction kill. And it's clear form the context of his post that vig-style cards weren't being considered. I doubt any are gonna be available this early in the game either.

vote: sparky

Referring to the OP.  Scum tell.

[liopoil]

Unvote. I guess the first player on the playlist is town SOMETIMES.

[mail-mi]

I think it does help mafia in this way, but remember that they can only kill one person a night, and it is likely that we will all eventually get some powers. And we could get around this by not saying what we bought, just what we see. This still helps them with pillage, and they can guess, "oh, if they've been to the gold room I bet they bought something good, let's kill them", but it isn't nearly as strong.

vote: liopoil

How do you know how many deaths can be caused?  I'm guessing there are vig-style cards available for purchase, so there's no guarantee on one death.  Scum slip.

Role PM of the Mountebanks is public knowledge; only one faction kill. And it's clear form the context of his post that vig-style cards weren't being considered. I doubt any are gonna be available this early in the game either.

Oh. Forgot that. Unvote

[liopoil]

@mail-mi, I believe I made that exact same defence earlier, yet you called that defense scummy.