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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #425 on: April 25, 2013, 08:06:41 am »

I agree that I haven't done much this game. I'm reminded why I almost swore off blitz games last time; they just never seem to suit me timewise.

Anyway. When I was asking shraeye before about what he thought of Robz I was considering the possibility of a shraeye/Robz team. shraeye continually going at Robz, and just sort of suggesting him in a bunch of different posts reminded me of yuma's bussing of Glooble in DS9. Off the top of my head, yuma didn't make a particularly solid case on Glooble, he just seemed to say, "What about Glooble? Why don't we lynch Glooble? Why has everyone forgotten about Glooble?" And of course they were scumbuddies. Could this be a similar situation? I don't know. What do others think, particularly mcmc and mail-mi? If we lynch Robz or shraeye, what if anything would their flip tell you about the other?
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #426 on: April 25, 2013, 08:33:46 am »

I'm not in favor of a shyrae lynch. He was right about fever ans deserves credit for trying to derail that lynch.  I'm less enthusiastic about robZ. In fact I think that's where I'll park my vote for now.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #427 on: April 25, 2013, 08:34:39 am »

Fever?
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #428 on: April 25, 2013, 08:35:11 am »

Omg that was a horrible autocorrect. I mean Eevee not "fever"
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #429 on: April 25, 2013, 08:47:07 am »

Okay well I think we can open this up now. Mail-mi neighborized me. We have been working things out there and posting here to gauge reactions. Mail-mi is fairly confident in robz scummyness, I am fairly confident in efhw's scummyness. So we are planning on those as the next two lynch targets, if one of them flips town shraeye is our third guess. We both believe Jimm and spiritbears are town, yes they have been posting lower content, and robz/efhw/shraeye have been in the spotlight but this is robz created spotlight, with efhw staying just on the edge of it. Her most recent post which seemed to cast suspicion on robz(supporting his lynch) but made no vote and left open the option to look at other people has made me more confident they are the scum team.

Oh good mail-mi informed y'all of the plan.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #430 on: April 25, 2013, 08:47:58 am »

Oh also pretty sure spirit just hammered robz, 4 votes is a lynch right?
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #431 on: April 25, 2013, 08:52:34 am »

I'm not sure on EFHW yet, but I would be surprised if there wasn't scum in Robz/shraeye. Their more recent interactions have me talking myself around to exactly one scum, but I'm not sure.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #432 on: April 25, 2013, 09:37:11 am »

I'm really sorry guys, but I'm not gonna be able to get on until later tonight. Blitz games are definitely not for me.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #433 on: April 25, 2013, 09:38:01 am »

Wait what? Derphammer or quickhammer?
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #434 on: April 25, 2013, 09:40:34 am »

If Robz is Town then spiritbears had better be scum.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #435 on: April 25, 2013, 09:43:14 am »

Pretty sure a derphammer, I mean it's not like it matter both your Ic's wanted to vote for him. This is sorta how this setup goes d1 town has to be super active and interact like crazy, d2 the town is small and you have 2 Ic's that sorta pick the lynches and then we go. So after robz flips I think if he flips town we hit shraeye, if he flips scum we lynch efhw, and then lynch the other.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #436 on: April 25, 2013, 09:45:19 am »

If Robz is Town then spiritbears had better be scum.

No way, I'm not believing robz is town and shraeye/spirit is the scum team. They deserve to win then for being the only players on at deadline other than me.

I will believe shraeye/efhw or robz/shraeye. That is it.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #437 on: April 25, 2013, 09:45:39 am »

Yeah I guess. I will be looking very closely at spirit if Robz flips Town though, assuming I'm still around.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #438 on: April 25, 2013, 09:47:33 am »

BTW, the "yeah I guess" was in response to #435.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #439 on: April 25, 2013, 09:48:11 am »

Where is that mod?
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #440 on: April 25, 2013, 09:50:55 am »

Okay well I think we can open this up now. Mail-mi neighborized me. We have been working things out there and posting here to gauge reactions. Mail-mi is fairly confident in robz scummyness, I am fairly confident in efhw's scummyness. So we are planning on those as the next two lynch targets, if one of them flips town shraeye is our third guess. We both believe Jimm and spiritbears are town, yes they have been posting lower content, and robz/efhw/shraeye have been in the spotlight but this is robz created spotlight, with efhw staying just on the edge of it. Her most recent post which seemed to cast suspicion on robz(supporting his lynch) but made no vote and left open the option to look at other people has made me more confident they are the scum team.

Oh good mail-mi informed y'all of the plan.

I'm beginning to see EFHW more in relation to Robz, which has raised her scumminess a bit in my mind.  But I'm still more sold on jimmmm being Robz's partner.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #441 on: April 25, 2013, 09:56:33 am »

Deep! Sorry I had no idea it was that close! 
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #442 on: April 25, 2013, 10:05:43 am »

Come on give me this flip so I can go to bed.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #443 on: April 25, 2013, 10:08:48 am »

Deep! Sorry I had no idea it was that close!
It's okay, deadline is in an hour anyway and we've already stated who were lynching, now we hope were right.

@shraeye, robz/Jimm is equally likely as shraeye/Jimm and efhw/Jimm. This is why I am not lynching him, blitz goes quick and he hasn't looked scummy. You three interacted enough that scum's gotta be there for us to win. Oh and Jimm, if robz flips town. Shraeye is probably scum and efhw his partner because looking at how yesterday went down he said he wouldn't vote for eevee but at the last second he didn't vote efhw, no he voted eevee. Which was strange. So it's very likely shraeye/efhw is the scum team.

This is why I want to solidify robz/efhw/shraeye as our lynches, it has the best combo's of potential teams.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #444 on: April 25, 2013, 10:21:50 am »

Oh also pretty sure spirit just hammered robz, 4 votes is a lynch right?
You see there are 4 votes and don't notice I am one of them?  You said I criticized him without voting, but I had already voted for him. 
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #445 on: April 25, 2013, 10:27:00 am »

Oh also pretty sure spirit just hammered robz, 4 votes is a lynch right?
You see there are 4 votes and don't notice I am one of them?  You said I criticized him without voting, but I had already voted for him.
I would understand you tunneling me if you were scum.  What's this about?  I did get you mislynched once, because I was scum, but all the other times I voted and argued against you, you were actually scum!  You're wasting energy on town:town here.  We need to look at Jimmmmm and Spirit, in my mind.  Shraeye might be one hell of a player and be scum, but I don't have any sense of it myself.  If Robz is town, then like Eevee he really let us down in how's he's played.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #446 on: April 25, 2013, 10:30:46 am »

I'm beginning to see EFHW more in relation to Robz, which has raised her scumminess a bit in my mind.  But I'm still more sold on jimmmm being Robz's partner.

Actually, this is scummy-ish.  What does "in relation to Robz" mean? 
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #447 on: April 25, 2013, 10:33:34 am »

I really hope we guessed right on robz! I'm afraid it will get very tricky for us if that was a mislynch.
Alsoi haven't forgotten the way shyrae agressuvely ride a weak case on me, and perhaps I'm giving too much credit for his corect call on Eevee.  But I don't have much else to go on. I guess I should reread how vigorous his evee defense was.  But it seemed genuine at the time. I'm also willing to give him credit fir trying to work with Mc and I at deadline when everyone else was absent.
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 2 Start
« Reply #448 on: April 25, 2013, 10:39:08 am »

Thread Locked briefly for flip
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Re: ZM12: Loco!...Like the Motive That Betrayed Me - Day 1 Start
« Reply #449 on: April 25, 2013, 10:41:56 am »

Final Vote Count Day 2

shraeye (1) - Robz
Robz888 (4) - Shraeye, Mail-Mi, EFHW, spiritbears

Not Voting (2) - Jimmmmm, Mcmcsalot

Deadline is 8:15am PDT April 25 (11:15am forum time EDT)
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