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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #450 on: January 15, 2013, 04:42:31 pm »

I don't find you the most scummy Eevee, settle down.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #451 on: January 15, 2013, 04:42:44 pm »

THis is the problem with IC sheeping. We didn't really learn anything from Jimmm's wagon. Insom suggested it and we all went along with it.

Going along with it doesn't make you get off scot free. I intend to do some wagon analysis and see how it matches up with my reads.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #452 on: January 15, 2013, 04:43:13 pm »

I might actually like mcmc a lot too. He is just gooood as scum, certainly crafty enough to post good theory despite being scum.

I don't like the situation I'm in now. I feel I look very scummy to everyone. Don't give any town cred to anyone agreeing to hammer me.

Vote: Eevee

You didn't actually look scummy to me before, but thinking everyone thinks you're scummy when they don't is such a scumtell.

Have you guys noticed that the multivoting isn't really changing how we play at all? Do you think that's just habit or something fundamental about the game?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #453 on: January 15, 2013, 04:43:45 pm »

Going along with it doesn't make you get off scot free. I intend to do some wagon analysis and see how it matches up with my reads.

really... why do you think joth is town
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #454 on: January 15, 2013, 04:44:05 pm »

The wagon
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Cuzz wanted on it. but ended up not needing to be.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #455 on: January 15, 2013, 04:44:35 pm »

Vote Count 1.13:

Robz888 (0) -
Eevee (1) - jotheonah
Galzria (0) -
Insomniac (0) -
jotheonah (1) - TheMunch
TheMunch (0) -
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #456 on: January 15, 2013, 04:44:46 pm »

Ooooh, okay. I FEEL scummy, for some reason.

I can totally be the hammerer again. Galz is totally off the table and Ins thinking joth is town (Robz agrees) so Munch, cuzz, mcmc or Robz then?

I'd like to see cuzz in a pressure situation because I think I have a good feel of him. This far he is a nullread for me, which means slightly scummy .
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #457 on: January 15, 2013, 04:44:51 pm »

Going along with it doesn't make you get off scot free. I intend to do some wagon analysis and see how it matches up with my reads.

really... why do you think joth is town

Robz did a good explanation. One you didn't like but its a meta argument, the posts Robz brought up are just such classic town!Jo posts.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #458 on: January 15, 2013, 04:45:47 pm »

I understand multi vote was supposed to create simultaneous wagons. We put an end to it with our crazy hammer theory talk and reduced the game to a one at a time methodical process instead of the typical I find you scummy therefor I vote you.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #459 on: January 15, 2013, 04:46:09 pm »

Ooooh, okay. I FEEL scummy, for some reason.

I can totally be the hammerer again. Galz is totally off the table and Ins thinking joth is town (Robz agrees) so Munch, cuzz, mcmc or Robz then?

I'd like to see cuzz in a pressure situation because I think I have a good feel of him. This far he is a nullread for me, which means slightly scummy .

What reason could that be?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #460 on: January 15, 2013, 04:46:58 pm »

Have we ever even seen scumjoth? I don't claim to read him well at all, but to me those posts just looked like classic jo..

Out for a bit, I'll get back asap .
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #461 on: January 15, 2013, 04:47:39 pm »

The wagon
Robz888, Insomniac, mcmcsalot, TheMunch, Eevee


Cuzz wanted on it. but ended up not needing to be.

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Robz was first on, and I don't think he was scummy he would have had to have been like, oh man Insom is seriously gonna drive this wagon its gonna be awesome, so I don't think he should be the first lynch.

mcmcsalot is in a bit of the scummy position so I don't oppose his lynch, Cuzz wanted on the wagon so I'm not sure if he thought Jimm was scum or just wanted to lynch town. TheMunch also wanted on the wagon. Eevee did what he was told so there is a bit less to be learned of Eevee
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #462 on: January 15, 2013, 04:48:23 pm »

Have we ever even seen scumjoth? I don't claim to read him well at all, but to me those posts just looked like classic jo..

Out for a bit, I'll get back asap .

Yes, MXV and at least one on going game.
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« Reply #463 on: January 15, 2013, 04:48:59 pm »

Have we ever even seen scumjoth? I don't claim to read him well at all, but to me those posts just looked like classic jo..

Out for a bit, I'll get back asap .

Yes, MXV and at least one on going game.

(He is dead there but I like to be vague about on going games)
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #464 on: January 15, 2013, 04:49:29 pm »

A reminder: Deadline in just under 4 hours.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #465 on: January 15, 2013, 04:49:41 pm »

Ooooh, okay. I FEEL scummy, for some reason.

I can totally be the hammerer again. Galz is totally off the table and Ins thinking joth is town (Robz agrees) so Munch, cuzz, mcmc or Robz then?

I'd like to see cuzz in a pressure situation because I think I have a good feel of him. This far he is a nullread for me, which means slightly scummy .

What reason could that be?
Feeling like I haven't been pulling my weight mostly I guess. Not being sharp, being so easy to get onboard with the towny lynch. Sorry jimm, this reminded me of that one blitz game where you fooled me.
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« Reply #466 on: January 15, 2013, 04:50:07 pm »

Now MCMCs position and joining of the wagon strike me as scummy while I previously had a town read on him.

but Cuzz and Munch are also there.

My feeling currently is MCMC or Munch hammer Cuzz but I'm obviously far more flexible here and want a lot of discussion
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #467 on: January 15, 2013, 04:50:47 pm »

Vote: Joth
Vote: Cuzz
Vote: Robz888
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #468 on: January 15, 2013, 04:51:24 pm »

Ooooh, okay. I FEEL scummy, for some reason.

OMG what a straight line.

FYI, Eevee, I was never scum for a long time. But I was scum in Pokemon, which is ongoing. And I think ... it seems like ... let me check my quicktopics Oh yeah! I was scum in the switch game with QV and ashersky. ANd of course, I didn't flip in LOLcats and so I'm honor bound not to say what my alignment was in that game as long as its ongoing.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #469 on: January 15, 2013, 04:52:14 pm »

So your saying my pushing for a lynch on unconfirmed people whos only defense is that thats his meta, makes me scummy
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #470 on: January 15, 2013, 04:52:18 pm »

did Jimmmm have any reads whatsoever to sheep?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #471 on: January 15, 2013, 04:54:16 pm »

Vote Count 1.14:

Robz888 (0) - mcmcsalot
Eevee (1) - jotheonah
Galzria (0) -
Insomniac (0) -
jotheonah (1) - TheMunch, mcmcsalot
TheMunch (0) -
Cuzz (0) - mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (0) -


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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #472 on: January 15, 2013, 04:56:44 pm »

we don't need insom, don't care that hes ic, galz if you suport the joth lynch throw the vote, cuzz and eevee as well. I would like cuzz to hammer but galz could too.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #473 on: January 15, 2013, 04:59:04 pm »

we don't need insom, don't care that hes ic, galz if you suport the joth lynch throw the vote, cuzz and eevee as well. I would like cuzz to hammer but galz could too.

Holy. Vote: mom salon
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #474 on: January 15, 2013, 05:00:25 pm »

All I got is my read on Joth.  He has done nothing to change it, especially his recent reaction to Eevee.

PPE 100% agree with mcmc (which I keep doing and I'm going to be mad if mcmc is actually scum and I'm just getting strung along).  But yeah just because Insom is IC doesn't mean he gets to decide every lynch.  We have the benefit of knowing that hes town so he can ask probing questions and push discussion without the fear of him having an ulterior motive.  But if people think Joth is scum then they should vote joth.  When I came up with my original idea about discussing who gets to hammer, I gave our IC the power to make those choices for us.  I did not and will never give Insom 100% control of who we lynch at all times (that being said I did jump on Jim but it was more Robz' comment then Jimm's which in hindsight was pretty terrible on my part, but you guys also didn't need me cause Cuzz would have done it so whatever)

PPE2 I'm about to say the same thing Insom, be prepared to vote for me too :P
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