About Gazlria and Yuma, Yuma's vote was clearly done out of principle, at least that's how I rread it. I don't like people who have suspected yuma on this stance because it sounded 'forced'. Uin my experience with these stand-on-principle type arguments, they will always sound a bit forced, because someone is jsut trying to make a point that self-voting itself is what is bad, but Yuma isn't really commenting on Galzria's alingmemt despite his vote for Galz. I find it a bit interesting that Galzria is reacting somewhat nonchalantly to what I think is a poor reason to vote for someone. This makes me a bit suspicious, but not heavlily enough for me to have a serious scumread on Galz.
I disagree with his argument that this sounds like a case that scumyuma might make a serious thing of. It really irks me when people react to a case with bad reasons on them by saying "bad reasoning=scum, I bet he's scum!" Especially with day1 cases that are often weak. I just think that Galz made a joke (nullread) and yuma reacted too strongly to point out a principled stance that he has (nullread). End of story.
About Eevee's case on sparkyIt's a bad case, and I don't like that it seems to have picked up two sheep votes from joth and Axxle (although Axxle unvotes quickly). I agree that sparky's post could be read as forced, but I'm not getting scum reads off such a bold claim that mass-claiming may have benefits, actually I'm picking up a townread from that. I'm comfortable just letting this issue go.
What I don't like here is Eevee's reaction to people sheeping his cases, and his response to sparky's 'defense.'
Looking back to sparkys reaction to my vote and the surprising traction it got from joth and axxle, I think it's interesting he chose to go for the classic Robz defense "I can see why you'd think that, and usually it would be right..". Now, I admit it's hard to respond to a case that essentially reads "your post felt insincere", but sparky didnt even try. That being said, I'm surprised joth and axxle saw my post worth sheeping. Not behaviour I'd expect from either, but as I've said I really like early wagons to get the game rolling, so I guess I should just be humbled someone thinks I'm worth sheeping. Might be the first time!
That is a really bad summary of the defense that sparky gives. He simply said that he is often scum, so maybe that's why your gut is yelling scum. I agree that there are certain people who sort of look for reads that they expect themselves to have, like a cross-game tunneling. It's best to recognize it and combat it, tunnelling is definitely detrimental to picking up accurate reads, I've found. I'm really suspicious of the way you got 'surprised' that your sparky case gained traction. I think this is an interaction not really worth pursuing now, however.
Axxle Axxle is somebody that I jumped to finding scummy quite quickly. Here's a post that gave me that vibe
Eevee has very good gut, but currently I think this Galzria/yuma argument might be the best thing to look into.
I think Galz is town for putting himself out there like he did. But I think scum yuma might sit back and let someone else make that first "selfvote!" vote. In conclusion I think it might be town v. town. My biggest question is why joth didn't think it worth mentioning in the post right above mine?
@joth: what do you think of Galz v. yuma?
Vote: sparky for Eevee.
First off, he suggests that people look into Galz/Yuma argument, but then suspects himself that it's town v. town. Why try to draw everybody's attention to something that a few people already are getting scumreads on but then say both participants are town? It seems like the more attention that is paid to this, the more people may become convinced that either Galz/yuma is scum. I also don't understand at all what you mean by "Galz putting himself out there"; by making a joke, Galz put himself out there and came out towny? That's a really weird choice of words, since between Galz/yuma, yuma is the one who put himself out there in a more bold way, making his vote-all-selfvoters stance. This I think is the most suspicious response to the Galz/yuma fiasco yet.
So thus far, i have a few reads, though none of them are super strong yet, the game is only 24 hours old.
Grujah: I got a slight-medium towny vibe from the way that he was grilling jimmm, even if it was in jest.
Axxle: medium scum as stated above
Eevee: very slight scum
Galz: very slight scum for reacting so smoothly to absurdness.
jimmm: slight townread, also from the Grujah/jimm interaction
Lekkit: slight town, mostlyf rom his post about his mixed feelings on yuma.
Robz: slight scum for his reaction to yuma, finding yuma scummy for his 'hollow-feeling' stance on selfvoters
sparky: slight town as stated above
About Insomniac's claiming business, I have slight scumreads on all three, so really don't know who he might be talking about. I wouldn't be surprised if any of those three were scum.
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