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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #600 on: December 31, 2012, 12:44:44 am »

Reason I'm asking is I am way more resistant to lynching you as part of a trade if you are upgraded.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #601 on: December 31, 2012, 12:46:01 am »

About me defending Robz earlier... what I was thinking was that if we could get everyone to claim, scum would have to make up a card, and there could be some counterclaiming. Not my best plan of action, as the scum would know all the PR's. And because others took him seriously, I took him seriously as well. When someone says, "Seriously, let's do this." I take them seriously. When they're not serious, I get peeved. :/
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #602 on: December 31, 2012, 12:46:12 am »

Ashersky, Axxle, and yuma are all briefly illuminated with a bright blue flash of light.

Galz, why didn't you choose Eevee among these 3?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #603 on: December 31, 2012, 12:46:21 am »

SK killed Volt.  Any guesses who that is?  Is SK hunting helpful?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #604 on: December 31, 2012, 12:46:34 am »

Ashersky, Axxle, and yuma are all briefly illuminated with a bright blue flash of light.

Galz, why didn't you choose Eevee among these 3?

He chose a suit.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #605 on: December 31, 2012, 12:46:39 am »

also, fuzzy, go to sleep, its 7 AM.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #606 on: December 31, 2012, 12:48:19 am »

SK killed Volt.  Any guesses who that is?  Is SK hunting helpful?

I don't know but lynching Eevee would clear up Galz. I tend to think less NK's by scum = good, guess I gotta think about the edge cases.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #607 on: December 31, 2012, 12:48:56 am »

Actually gonna bold this;

Galz - why didn't you stangle EEVEE? You are stronman, it goes through everything, and you 100% knew he was SCUM?

Okay let me try to reason this out. We know Insomniac is town. Therefore he was telling the truth. One QT now among Eevee and Galzria. If Eevee is telling the truth, he has no QT. Then Galz could be a Mason, having access to a QT. One problem with that; he claimed Strongman Vig. Galz is lying here. This is what I'm seeing.

Is there a scenario where Galz IS a strongman vig and Eevee is a bulletproof scum?? Well then Galz knew Eevee was scum pretty much, on the account that Insom was telling the truth. Insom provided a lot of evidence I felt, I would have shot Eevee over Insom in Galz' situation personally.

Eevee is being kinda hedgy here, he's acting weird.

You are fighting this really hard. Quite simply: I didn't honestly believe Eevee was the only other MA in the game, and while Insomniac gave enough evidence to more or less prove he's MA, nothing he provided proved he was town - as was discussed to death yesterday.

At the end of the day, letting Scum!Insomniac live and shooting Town!Eevee was a worse proposition than letting Scum!Eevee live and shooting Town!Insomniac.

I AM the Strongman, and Insomniac WAS town. So was Robz. Now do the math.

Can you answer my Q?  No more vig shots, right?  Are you basically the new Wizard?

Mobile posting, trying to get to everything:

Grujah was the Strongman LAST Arcana game. That's how he knows my strangling in genuine to my claim. Further, just like he did last game, we both strangled Major Arcana and got a ONE SHOT use of their power. In this case I got "Detect Magic", which makes people of a suit I name glow blue. I named Wands. Ashersky, Yuma and Axxle gowed blue.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #608 on: December 31, 2012, 12:50:28 am »

"Detect Magic"

lol, just DMed a DnD game today, and when I saw the big blue letters, I internally named it "Detect Magic" as well.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #609 on: December 31, 2012, 12:51:43 am »

Ok, Ins died, something is going to happen, or has already happened.

I was right for railing Jimmm. Volt was so silent, I am not surprised, but I did not expect it. Next one on my list (after Jimm) was Arch. So, vote: Archetype

As for Galz vs Eevee - I think Galz is to be lynched.

Eevee is likely a cult. Consider:

Joth was shot (Mafia kill).
Both Mafia were ripped to shreds (WW kills)
I Strangled Insomniac. (Strongman, or possibly SK (although that's usually a knife))

Now, Insomniac claimed one of Robz (confirmed town), myself, or Eevee had a QT. Neither a Strongman, nor an SK would have one. That rules me out, leaving only Eevee.

Given that Robz was town, the only "town" role Eevee could be is BP Townie. But go back and look at his aversion to claiming, and tell me if that makes any sense to you? However, if he's the other Major Arcana, then what he is and does is a complete mystery - outside of one thing: He lied about having a QT.

--- Also, having killed Insomniac, I inherited his power (1-shot), which I can now use. I have "Detect Magic", which allows me to name a suit and see all players that own a card of it's type.

I have requested to see all Wands players. It's a WW suit, and it houses the BP Townie.

Ashersky, Axxle, and yuma are all briefly illuminated with a bright blue flash of light.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #610 on: December 31, 2012, 12:55:43 am »

Ok, Ins died, something is going to happen, or has already happened.

I was right for railing Jimmm. Volt was so silent, I am not surprised, but I did not expect it. Next one on my list (after Jimm) was Arch. So, vote: Archetype

As for Galz vs Eevee - I think Galz is to be lynched.

Eevee is likely a cult. Consider:

Joth was shot (Mafia kill).
Both Mafia were ripped to shreds (WW kills)
I Strangled Insomniac. (Strongman, or possibly SK (although that's usually a knife))

Now, Insomniac claimed one of Robz (confirmed town), myself, or Eevee had a QT. Neither a Strongman, nor an SK would have one. That rules me out, leaving only Eevee.

Given that Robz was town, the only "town" role Eevee could be is BP Townie. But go back and look at his aversion to claiming, and tell me if that makes any sense to you? However, if he's the other Major Arcana, then what he is and does is a complete mystery - outside of one thing: He lied about having a QT.

--- Also, having killed Insomniac, I inherited his power (1-shot), which I can now use. I have "Detect Magic", which allows me to name a suit and see all players that own a card of it's type.

I have requested to see all Wands players. It's a WW suit, and it houses the BP Townie.

Ashersky, Axxle, and yuma are all briefly illuminated with a bright blue flash of light.

Wait what I missed this.

Oh my brain malfunctioning. UNVOTE for now. I'm going with my plan. VOTE: Eevee.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 1! Deadline 1/9/13, 3 PM forums time)
« Reply #611 on: December 31, 2012, 12:56:10 am »


Vote Count 2.1

Eevee (3): Galzria, Grujah, sparky5856

Not Voting (8): Eevee, yuma, Archetype, Lekkit, shraeye, ashersky, Cuzz, Axxle

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch!
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #612 on: December 31, 2012, 12:59:03 am »

Hold on UNVOTE

Everyone needs to get in here! This game is progressing way too fast.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #613 on: December 31, 2012, 12:59:51 am »

Not sure how many people are gonna be here today and tomorrow though, with it being holidays and all.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #614 on: December 31, 2012, 01:02:54 am »

This is a good way to increase your post count  ;D

Okay so to recap... there WAS a strongman kill. If there's another strongman vig, why didn't he counterclaim? There's only one of them. So, Galz shot Insom. Both Galz and Robz didn't have a QT. Eevee therefore has a QT. okay so yeah, I'm comfortable with an Eevee lynch then.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #615 on: December 31, 2012, 01:21:02 am »

well does everyone even need to come in here then. just noticed the deadline is short.

So, this is how I play huh? Increase your level of activity to prime when everyone is away and to none when all the action is going on? Uh-huh, yeah, there's a consistent meta for me.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #616 on: December 31, 2012, 01:24:26 am »

well does everyone even need to come in here then. just noticed the deadline is short.

aw jeez i'm bad at counting, changing deadline
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #617 on: December 31, 2012, 01:28:47 am »

oh, kay then. that's cool

Okay for starters VOTE: Galzria.

Now, I'm upset that I missed most of the action yesterday.  :( That's my own fault though #f.ds's biggest lurker

I've read the game over the night so I'm caught up to speed, I'll post my thoughts on everyone because... hell, it's the least I can do >_<

Also what's with the flash of light?

Not only does he lurk, he's also quite slow in the head.

playing kickball when you're board is fun. I should probably go to sleep too.

Galz in the clear, Eevee is dead meat. Not sure what needs to be discussed about that. If there is soemthing, that's cool, I'm down with it. there's time.
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I'm shortly here sparky.

SO MUCH has happened! 4 deaths?!? I have one little thing about Galz that I want to talk about, but I want to save it for later. I may bring it up, I just have to double check some stuff.

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Huh. That's strange.

I'll have to wait for Galz to get here.
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Oh wait, he is online.

Hi Galz!
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Oh wait, he is online.

Hi Galz!

Doing other things, but semi-around, yes.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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I'll wait for later to say it, or I just won't at all. It's probably not too important.

I'll have to think about it some more.

I think I want to lynch Galz today. I don't really want to lynch another MA (especially if he's town) and Galz is a named VT now while having a MA as scum would be powerful.

But there is Grujah's 'proof' that Galz is the Strongman and Eevee has been scrambling.

I honestly don't know. This whole Galz/Eevee/Insomniac/Robz thing makes my brain hurt. Either of them could honestly be scum, especially after confTown Insomniac suspected Galz more than Robz.


I'm going to do Vote: Galzria. I'll be rereading a bunch though to try and figure this mess out. I do think that one of these 2 should be our lynch candidates for today.

I do feel like Eevee is keeping something secret from us. I cant tell if it's a scummy secret, or a towny secret. I'm more towards scummy secret.
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Galz has confirmed he's a named VT at best at this point.  Based on that, I do feel like it's possibly good to lynch him today, let Eevee do whatever he can do try and prove his towniness overnight, and then just lynch Eevee tomorrow if we need to.  It's a 1 for 1 trade at worst, or we've saved our only other MA at best.

Is that way off? 
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Galz has confirmed he's a named VT at best at this point.  Based on that, I do feel like it's possibly good to lynch him today, let Eevee do whatever he can do try and prove his towniness overnight, and then just lynch Eevee tomorrow if we need to.  It's a 1 for 1 trade at worst, or we've saved our only other MA at best.

Is that way off?

You honestly think it's a better idea to let likely-scum Arcana free to live for a night, having no clue what he's capable of doing?

Honestly, what fantasy world are you living in? Insomniac was town. He didn't lie. I am confirmed Strongman, named VT. Robz was town. That means that Eevee MUST have a QT, and is lying. What are you waiting for him to prove?

Really, saying "Let's lynch town and give scum another night to live, then lynch scum" is an absolutely terrible way to play. There is literally nothing else I can be but Strongman. Strangle = Strong, and I can't be some "flavor manipulating MA" because there are no other MA's.

So yeah, you're completely off base, and if you're town, you're really just being lazy and not bothering to look at any real evidence.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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