Topic: Zendo Questions (Read 101010 times)

florrat · « **Reply #1000 on:** January 16, 2014, 12:51:55 am »

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1001 on:** January 16, 2014, 12:58:49 am »

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

florrat · « **Reply #1002 on:** January 16, 2014, 01:53:18 am »

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx?
Aa aa?
A?
Ab?
Abc?
Abcd?
Abcde?
Abcdef?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1003 on:** January 16, 2014, 01:56:25 am »

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx? Yes
Aa aa? Yes
A? Yes
Ab? No
Abc? No
Abcd? No
Abcde? No
Abcdef? No

Edit: See my next post; I somehow accidentally answered the last five questions Yes, but they are now correctly answered as No.

Grujah · « **Reply #1004 on:** January 16, 2014, 07:33:52 am »

Is it?

florrat · « **Reply #1005 on:** January 16, 2014, 01:52:08 pm »

Rule?
abcd?
is the?
Is The?
Is the?
R?
r?
ru?
rul?
rule?
ruler?
rulers?
thaw?
lure?
cab?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1006 on:** January 16, 2014, 03:16:50 pm »

I AM REALLY REALLY SORRY GUYS I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I WAS THINKING BUT APPARENTLY I ANSWERED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS WRONG LAST NIGHT. (Seriously, I have no idea how that happened, there is no reason I can think of for answering all those question yes.) I fixed them in this post and I'll go back and edit my other posts. I think they were just in the group asked by florrat near the end.

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx? Yes
Aa aa? Yes
A? Yes
Ab? No
Abc? No
Abcd? No
Abcde? No
Abcdef? No

Is it? Yes

Rule? No
abcd? No
is the? Yes
Is The? Yes
Is the? Yes
R? Yes
r? Yes
ru? No
rul? No
rule? No
ruler? No
rulers? No
thaw? No
lure? No
cab? No

jotheonah · « **Reply #1007 on:** January 16, 2014, 03:48:07 pm »

am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration?

Celebration hedonistic, therefore tomorrow unknown, though today dead, not am I?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1008 on:** January 16, 2014, 04:01:15 pm »

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx? Yes
Aa aa? Yes
A? Yes
Ab? No
Abc? No
Abcd? No
Abcde? No
Abcdef? No

Is it? Yes

Rule? No
abcd? No
is the? Yes
Is The? Yes
Is the? Yes
R? Yes
r? Yes
ru? No
rul? No
rule? No
ruler? No
rulers? No
thaw? No
lure? No
cab? No

am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes
Celebration hedonistic, therefore tomorrow unknown, though today dead, not am I? Yes

heron · « **Reply #1009 on:** January 16, 2014, 06:01:44 pm »

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1010 on:** January 16, 2014, 06:09:45 pm »

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx? Yes
Aa aa? Yes
A? Yes
Ab? No
Abc? No
Abcd? No
Abcde? No
Abcdef? No

Is it? Yes

Rule? No
abcd? No
is the? Yes
Is The? Yes
Is the? Yes
R? Yes
r? Yes
ru? No
rul? No
rule? No
ruler? No
rulers? No
thaw? No
lure? No
cab? No

am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes
Celebration hedonistic, therefore tomorrow unknown, though today dead, not am I? Yes

i? Yes

heron · « **Reply #1011 on:** January 16, 2014, 06:13:57 pm »

ia?
iA?
iaa?
iaaaaaaaaaa?
inn?
in?
iaoue?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1012 on:** January 16, 2014, 06:15:15 pm »

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx? Yes
Aa aa? Yes
A? Yes
Ab? No
Abc? No
Abcd? No
Abcde? No
Abcdef? No

Is it? Yes

Rule? No
abcd? No
is the? Yes
Is The? Yes
Is the? Yes
R? Yes
r? Yes
ru? No
rul? No
rule? No
ruler? No
rulers? No
thaw? No
lure? No
cab? No

am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes
Celebration hedonistic, therefore tomorrow unknown, though today dead, not am I? Yes

i? Yes

ia? No
iA? No
iaa? No
iaaaaaaaaaa? No
inn? No
in? No
iaoue? No

florrat · « **Reply #1013 on:** January 16, 2014, 08:10:51 pm »

Quote from: scott_pilgrim on January 16, 2014, 03:16:50 pm

I AM REALLY REALLY SORRY GUYS I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I WAS THINKING BUT APPARENTLY I ANSWERED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS WRONG LAST NIGHT. (Seriously, I have no idea how that happened, there is no reason I can think of for answering all those question yes.) I fixed them in this post and I'll go back and edit my other posts. I think they were just in the group asked by florrat near the end.

No problem, that can happen! But actually I'm glad those questions have a different answer. I was really confused before, which you might have been able to tell, since I repeated some earlier questions

Is it ok?
Is it ok if?
Is it ok if we?
Is it ok if we do?
Is it ok if we do it?
can I?
a b?
a b c?
a b c d?
will we?
find the?
answer ever?
are we dumb?
or stupid?
not smart?
or will we fail?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1014 on:** January 16, 2014, 08:22:06 pm »

What is the rule? Yes
what rule? No
rule? No
what? No
is the? Yes

Guess: If the question contains of two or more words with fewer than 4 letters, yes, otherwise, no
This is incorrect. It is contradicted by florrat's first question.

Is this rule easier than my rule? No
Is this rule too easy? No
is it? Yes
Theist? No
Are longer questions like this one always answered with yes? No
Is liopoil wrong? No
Is liopoil guessing too early? Yes

Did I guess that just to force you to show a counterexample? No
was I close? Yes

Is what the rule? Yes
The rule is what? Yes
When do you lose? Yes
it is? Yes
Are Yesses less common than noes? Yes
How do you spell the plural of yes and no? No
Was liopoil close? Yes

Are Yesses less common than noses? Yes

I knew I was close? But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? That's what I get for not actually counting? Really just happy to have moved the game along?

? No
I knew I was close? Yes
But I actually have no desire to make up a rule, so kudos? No
That's what I get for not actually counting? Yes
Really just happy to have moved the game along? No

? Yes

I? Yes
I am? Yes
I am not? Yes
I am not dead? Yes
I am not dead today? Yes
I am not dead today though? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic? Yes
I am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes

I was not the only one thinking it had something to do with word lengths? No

X xx xxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxx? Yes
Aa aa? Yes
A? Yes
Ab? No
Abc? No
Abcd? No
Abcde? No
Abcdef? No

Is it? Yes

Rule? No
abcd? No
is the? Yes
Is The? Yes
Is the? Yes
R? Yes
r? Yes
ru? No
rul? No
rule? No
ruler? No
rulers? No
thaw? No
lure? No
cab? No

am not dead today though unknown tomorrow therefore hedonistic celebration? Yes
Celebration hedonistic, therefore tomorrow unknown, though today dead, not am I? Yes

i? Yes

ia? No
iA? No
iaa? No
iaaaaaaaaaa? No
inn? No
in? No
iaoue? No

Is it ok? No
Is it ok if? No
Is it ok if we? No
Is it ok if we do? No
Is it ok if we do it? No
can I? No
a b? No
a b c? No
a b c d? No
will we? Yes
find the? No
answer ever? No
are we dumb? Yes
or stupid? Yes
not smart? No
or will we fail? Yes

Quote from: florrat on January 16, 2014, 08:10:51 pm

Quote from: scott_pilgrim on January 16, 2014, 03:16:50 pm
I AM REALLY REALLY SORRY GUYS I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I WAS THINKING BUT APPARENTLY I ANSWERED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS WRONG LAST NIGHT. (Seriously, I have no idea how that happened, there is no reason I can think of for answering all those question yes.) I fixed them in this post and I'll go back and edit my other posts. I think they were just in the group asked by florrat near the end.
No problem, that can happen! But actually I'm glad those questions have a different answer. I was really confused before, which you might have been able to tell, since I repeated some earlier questions

Yeah, it's just that that sort of thing can totally ruin the game. I remember an actual game of Zendo that I played one time where the master had told us a particular structure was wrong, I asked him several times if he was sure it was wrong and he assured me it was. All of the things I had been thinking were contradicted by that structure, and it wasn't until much later that he caught it. So I know how awful it can be to be on the other end of that, but hopefully I caught myself quickly enough that it didn't cause too much trouble.

florrat · « **Reply #1015 on:** January 16, 2014, 08:46:32 pm »

Ah, finally!

Guess: If the question contains a word with the same number of letters as the number of words in the question, then yes (otherwise no).

(for example, "Is this the answer?" would be yes, because the question contains 4 words, and it contains the word "this", which contains 4 letters)

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1016 on:** January 16, 2014, 09:14:33 pm »

Quote from: florrat on January 16, 2014, 08:46:32 pm

Ah, finally!

Guess: If the question contains a word with the same number of letters as the number of words in the question, then yes (otherwise no).

(for example, "Is this the answer?" would be yes, because the question contains 4 words, and it contains the word "this", which contains 4 letters)

Yep! You can make a rule now.

florrat · « **Reply #1017 on:** January 16, 2014, 09:18:12 pm »

I have a rule

WalrusMcFishSr · « **Reply #1018 on:** January 16, 2014, 09:19:19 pm »

Haha my sentence parabola was sort of a perfect storm of yeses then.

WalrusMcFishSr · « **Reply #1019 on:** January 16, 2014, 09:19:55 pm »

Haha my sentence parabola was sort of a perfect storm of yeses then?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #1020 on:** January 16, 2014, 09:21:52 pm »

Is it easier than mine?
Is it better than mine?
Is it a good rule?
Should I keep asking questions about the rule?
Is five questions a lot?
How about six?

florrat · « **Reply #1021 on:** January 16, 2014, 09:57:54 pm »

Haha my sentence parabola was sort of a perfect storm of yeses then? Yes
Is it easier than mine? No
Is it better than mine? No
Is it a good rule? Yes
Should I keep asking questions about the rule? No
Is five questions a lot? No
How about six? Yes

mail-mi · « **Reply #1022 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:33:03 am »

I have a rule?

florrat · « **Reply #1023 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:47:22 am »

Haha my sentence parabola was sort of a perfect storm of yeses then? Yes

Is it easier than mine? No
Is it better than mine? No
Is it a good rule? Yes
Should I keep asking questions about the rule? No
Is five questions a lot? No
How about six? Yes

I have a rule? Yes

Grujah · « **Reply #1024 on:** January 17, 2014, 09:28:18 am »

nvm, wrong thread.

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