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Serialian

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Spoils and Mint
« on: December 06, 2012, 11:05:15 pm »
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I was curious if there is an official ruling for this. Can you reveal a spoils to gain another spoils?

If not, why?

Mint says "You may reveal a Treasure card from your hand. Gain a copy of it.
When you buy this, trash all Treasures you have in play."

Is it purely because it's not coming from the supply and mint assumes everything must come from the supply to work?

The rules expressly say "You may only gain spoils from marauder, pillage or Bandit camp" so I guess that overrides mint text

Just curious. I'm actually surprised that I couldn't find discussion of this particular situation anywhere on here when I looked.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2012, 11:11:42 pm »
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When a card tells you to gain a copy of a card, it means "gain from the Supply" unless otherwise stated.  Spoils is not part of the Supply, so it cannot be Minted.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 11:15:59 pm »
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There is discussion on this topic in Donald X's Dark Ages Preview #4, when Spoils was first unveiled.  Maybe start reading from here.

Varsinor points out later that Mint does specifically mention gaining from the Supply in "the additional kingdom card descriptions", which I suppose means the rule book FAQ.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2012, 12:21:15 am »
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Note that you can still choose to reveal a Spoils after you play a Mint, you just then fail to gain another Spoils.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 12:20:31 pm »
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Knowing Goko's bugs, I called bullshit when I didn't get another spoils. I actually stopped paying attention to the game and opened up the rule book.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 02:18:44 pm »
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The rules expressly say "You may only gain spoils from marauder, pillage or Bandit camp" so I guess that overrides mint text


This rule doesn't override anything.  It's more of a rule of thumb.  You can also gain spoils from the trash.  The simplest way is via Thief, but also if someone chooses to trash their spoils for whatever reason, you could gain it using some dark ages cards.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 02:43:53 pm »
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The rules expressly say "You may only gain spoils from marauder, pillage or Bandit camp" so I guess that overrides mint text


This rule doesn't override anything.  It's more of a rule of thumb.  You can also gain spoils from the trash.  The simplest way is via Thief, but also if someone chooses to trash their spoils for whatever reason, you could gain it using some dark ages cards.

Actually, that's not quite true. Neither Graverobber nor Rogue can gain Spoils from the trash, it being outside their cost range of $3 to $6.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 02:50:35 pm »
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Alright, true enough.  Then perhaps Thief is the only other way of gaining Spoils.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 04:33:15 pm »
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Well, technically Possession is another card which can gain Spoils.
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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 01:02:04 am »
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Off topic, but... holy smokes that's a lot of psyducks in your signature, Peebles.  You need some variety.

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Re: Spoils and Mint
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2012, 02:04:41 am »
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Also, where is/are the Golduck(s)?

(To be fair, Psyduck is better than Golduck in every way, except for in an actual battle.)
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