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[Galzria]

This is a theory discussion we should probably take elsewhere from derailing, but I always thought the best way to use a cop power was to clear unknowns/try to find scum, not to check up on some read you were very very confident about.

How often are your scum reads right and your confident reads wrong?

You were going to be given a lot of town cred. Not for anything you did, but for being "the other guy". I DID switch to Lekkit from you.. It seemed worth it to verify your status was deserved, and that you weren't going to become scum skating through the game.

Were you likely to be town? Probably. If you were scum would you have been caught otherwise? Likely not. So I investigated you to make sure.

[Eevee]

Fair enough. Not like I mean to imply you are a lying scum here, although that would be a genious plan (and we'll have to consider it if you somehow never die at night  .

I do feel dirty we are lynching someone who contributed in a scum lynch, when there are people who contributed on a town lynch instead afoot.

[Galzria]

FWIW:

If Cuzz is scum, I would look at Axxle/Frisk(Robz)/Cayvie

If Cuzz is town, go back and read my posy on why Shraeye is the most likely busser. Remember "When a player seems TOO confident in catching a scum, you probably have a bus".

Also, if he's Town, FoS at Yuma, and then Theorel, in that order (for Lekkit voters).

If Shraeye turns up scum at some point though, remember that he derailed the Frisk lynch.

[Galzria]

Fair enough. Not like I mean to imply you are a lying scum here, although that would be a genious plan (and we'll have to consider it if you somehow never die at night  .

I do feel dirty we are lynching someone who contributed in a scum lynch, when there are people who contributed on a town lynch instead afoot.

If scum want to leave me alive to investigate more, more power to them.

[Galzria]

Cuzz logged off. I'm giving him until 10:00 forum time, then hammering. I'm not wasting anymore of this day.

[yuma]

Cuzz logged off. I'm giving him until 10:00 forum time, then hammering. I'm not wasting anymore of this day.

Interesting developments here. I think that I am ok with this lynch going through. My vote is already on him. If Cuzz flips scum, this is looking really really good for town with 2 ICs--Eevee, raerae--as Galz is likely to die tonight if he is indeed cop. Although SK potentially could skew things a bit, but I have approached this whole game from the standpoint of no-SK until proven otherwise.

If Cuzz flips town I still think we are still in a good spot.

[Galzria]

Cuzz is back online.

[yuma]

Galz, we still have 20 minutes... let's talk about this...

I think I am pulling a bit of a you and getting cold feet on Cuzz. I am thinking it might be better to go back to the Robz off-Lekkit lynch. I don't want to waste time, but like I said we have 20 minutes until you said we would hammer...

Do you think Cuzz is more likely scum than Robz?

[Cuzz]

Ugh I don't really understand this case on me but I do realize we have to lynch soon. But I'm VT. Sorry i'm at a bar so can't talk too much which is why I was pushing for more discussion before the deadline. Still most suspicious of Robz and Yuma. Axxle to some extent. Really everyone off Lekkit wagon which is where I really felt we should have been devoting our attention today. Theorel was a town read yesterday but not super strong anymore.

[Axxle]

Ugh I don't really understand this case on me but I do realize we have to lynch soon. But I'm VT. Sorry i'm at a bar so can't talk too much which is why I was pushing for more discussion before the deadline. Still most suspicious of Robz and Yuma. Axxle to some extent. Really everyone off Lekkit wagon which is where I really felt we should have been devoting our attention today. Theorel was a town read yesterday but not super strong anymore.

Getting hammered at a bar?

[Cuzz]

I really feel like there was just some group think happening here since I still really don't know what the case on me is. I pushed for the Lekkit lynch sincerely.

[Cuzz]

Ugh I don't really understand this case on me but I do realize we have to lynch soon. But I'm VT. Sorry i'm at a bar so can't talk too much which is why I was pushing for more discussion before the deadline. Still most suspicious of Robz and Yuma. Axxle to some extent. Really everyone off Lekkit wagon which is where I really felt we should have been devoting our attention today. Theorel was a town read yesterday but not super strong anymore.

Getting hammered at a bar?

Beautiful.

[Galzria]

Galz, we still have 20 minutes... let's talk about this...

I think I am pulling a bit of a you and getting cold feet on Cuzz. I am thinking it might be better to go back to the Robz off-Lekkit lynch. I don't want to waste time, but like I said we have 20 minutes until you said we would hammer...

Do you think Cuzz is more likely scum than Robz?

Not particularly, no. But trying to change wagons will eat another day. And I DO think that if nothing else Cuzz will be very informative, even if he flips town, because I think Shraeye was the most likely scum from Lekkit's wagon coming into today, and I think if Cuzz flips town then he should get some good, hard scrutiny tomorrow.

Honestly? I've got a terrible headache, and really don't feel like getting played or toyed with tonight. This game is a pain in the ass as it is. So I want to stick to the plan.

[Cuzz]

Buy seriously, I'm being super rude to the people I'm with so I can't be on much more till I get home.

[yuma]

Galz, we still have 20 minutes... let's talk about this...

I think I am pulling a bit of a you and getting cold feet on Cuzz. I am thinking it might be better to go back to the Robz off-Lekkit lynch. I don't want to waste time, but like I said we have 20 minutes until you said we would hammer...

Do you think Cuzz is more likely scum than Robz?

Not particularly, no. But trying to change wagons will eat another day. And I DO think that if nothing else Cuzz will be very informative, even if he flips town, because I think Shraeye was the most likely scum from Lekkit's wagon coming into today, and I think if Cuzz flips town then he should get some good, hard scrutiny tomorrow.

Honestly? I've got a terrible headache, and really don't feel like getting played or toyed with tonight. This game is a pain in the ass as it is. So I want to stick to the plan.

All right I keep my vote... I have learned from in this game to trust my gut and not change my mind at the last second. We will see how that turns out.

[Galzria]

I hate that he claimed VT. Much like Eevee did D1, it's a bad scum move in this setup because fake claims throw huge ass wrenches in things for town.

Grrr

[Galzria]

Vote Count 2.13

Captain_Frisk/Robz888 (3): Galzria, Axxle, Cuzz
Cuzz (5): shraeye, theorel, Cayvie, yuma, raerae {L-1}
theorel (2): Eevee, Robz888

Not Voting (1): Jimmmmm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 ends on Wednesday, December 26, at 4:30 p.m. forum time.

You have ~4 days, 20 hours of bankable time remaining.

[yuma]

I hate that he claimed VT. Much like Eevee did D1, it's a bad scum move in this setup because fake claims throw huge ass wrenches in things for town.

Grrr

yeah... I know... there are like 6 people watching this thread... thoughts everyone?

[Galzria]

Eevee, would you vote Ftisk over Theorel?

[yuma]

Eevee, would you vote Ftisk over Theorel?

one down side to that is that robz isn't on to claim...

[Cuzz]

I hate that he claimed VT. Much like Eevee did D1, it's a bad scum move in this setup because fake claims throw huge ass wrenches in things for town.

Grrr

Not a fake claim. Dunno what to tell you. I really wish someone voting for me would reread my interaction with Lekkit. WIFOM here but I really can't believe it looks like bussing because it isn't.

[yuma]

I hate that he claimed VT. Much like Eevee did D1, it's a bad scum move in this setup because fake claims throw huge ass wrenches in things for town.

Grrr

claiming VT however have been a good way to stay alive recently. Before we just lynched them, but as of late VT claims keeps you alive. I claimed it in MXV, where I was VT, and stayed alive. Like you said, Eevee earlier this game... so... I don't know...

[Cuzz]

Ok I'm seriously gone for now guys.

[Galzria]

Ok I'm seriously gone for now guys.

Go for it. You've done what you can if you're town.

[yuma]

Jimmm, Theorel, what do you think?