Jorbles, go ahead and open a sequel to our dinner party game. I'll co-mod as a ghost butler, or something. You now have run of the manor! Just use the next number not already open and I'll adjust.
Once it's full, start. Let's see if we can get a full newbie game again.
Vets, stay out!
Look I don't want to make this a big thing, but I feel like I need to say something.
1. You aren't in charge. This is a communal effort. I am not trying to sound mean here, but you don't get to make the rules. You just don't. And since this is a communal effort I am going to say my two cents and hope that others agree. If they don't... then obviously my opinion is moot. But right now I think the idea of "vets stay out" isn't the right method to take right now.
2. I fully understand the desire to have a newbie game that is all newbies. I think it is the ideal. However:
3. I don't think it is worth waiting weeks on end to get enough newbies so it is only newbies. I think it is worth having 1-2 vets to get the game started in a timely fashion, if we don't the newbies will potentially lose interest and play elsewhere.
4. I have always wanted to be in a regular 9 player game, but never had the opportunity. I gave up my opportunity last time if you remember and gave you the opportunity to play in one by hosting MX. I would love it if someone was willing to host a regular "non-newbie" 9 player game. But no one seems willing. I would be willing, but then I couldn't play in it.
5. I think the actual mod (in this case Jorbles) and the new players within should ultimately decide who is in and who is out. I am not demanding a place, but simply saying that if there is one available for vets--and I think we as a group should decide whether that should be allowed or not--I would like a spot if at all possible.
That is all.
Too late. Looks like a big thing. That aside, I am just trying to help the community at large with some small semblance of order, that's all.
The original newbie game argument was for an always open newbie game that starts when filled and is immediately replaced in queue with another. We clearly don't have the population growth to support that.
Then there was the argument that vets were crowding out newbies. We saw that play out uglily in MXXI sign ups, with Robz as the only true vet in the game to preserve his now defunct streak.
Someone, probably the mod as you suggest, can decide on a game-by-game basis, what they're target audience is. There's an argument to be made for keeping the same numbers and always allowing anyone to sign up. At this point, you are probably the only vet clamouring to play a newbie game anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. Eevee might want in, I don't know.
But if we are talking about a true newbie game queue, which is what I thought this conversation was about, and what I had inferred privately through PM with Jorbles, then maybe a new category, with new rules, is needed.
I'm not the boss, as you say. I'm not sure what I am here. But what I am trying to be is helpful. Sorry I'm not. I don't want this to turn into SFS vs. Frisk.