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GendoIkari

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Familiar vs Witch?
« on: November 02, 2012, 07:26:58 pm »
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In b4 "depends on the kingdom"... what's the general consensus as to which to go for? My instinct says that most of the time you prefer Witch... obviously if you open 5/2 it should be no contest, but otherwise, should you pick up a Potion in your opening, or grab things that will help you get to $5 quicker?
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 07:30:26 pm »
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Witch, IMO. Lower-risk, for one; drawing 2p is much more likely and much more damaging than drawing $4, $4 and not getting a witch. Also, the Potion is as bad as a curse for the purpose of buying provinces. And, +2 cards is better than +1 card/+1 action, again for the purposes of buying things.

Sims confirm.
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 07:33:15 pm »
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Oh, and Witch gives faster cycling to find your Witch faster (+2 vs +1 card).
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 07:33:23 pm »
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For the purposes of "depends on the kingdom" -- might consider Familiar if there are other good Potion cards, or maybe a cantrip engine or something?
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 07:36:14 pm »
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For the purposes of "depends on the kingdom" -- might consider Familiar if there are other good Potion cards, or maybe a cantrip engine or something?

Yeah, this question was prompted by a game I just played. Golem was also available, so I opened Potion. Ironically, I hit $4P the first time through, but of course took Familiar over Golem. I actually ended up picking up a Witch pretty soon after that, my 2 Golems were playing the Familiars and Witch quite frequently. My opponent actually picked up Familiar as well, after getting Witch (he opened Feast). I won the Curse split 6-4.
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 08:56:44 pm »
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I think the only thing that would make me take Familiar over Witch would be the presence of Scrying Pool.

Edit: and good enough support too, probably +Buy and passable trashing.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2012, 08:58:48 pm by jaybeez »
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 09:13:31 pm »
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OR? Why not both?
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 11:28:38 pm »
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I think the sims have already shown that Witch is better, Geronimoo has posted something about this already.
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Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2012, 01:25:02 pm »
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I think if transmute is the absolute only trasher on the board, it might be worth going familiar over witch. In this situation you're basically gambling: you will definitely lose the game if you get don't get a familiar on the first shuffle and your opponent gets a witch, but if you do get the familiar you will be in very good shape once you pick up a transmute on the next shuffle.
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