yuma #1758 -- I find your rankings of Morgrim and shraeye quite odd. I disagree with the others though I can understand how you might come to those conclusions, but what kind of read do you have on Morgrim that you mark him as "likely to be scum"? Morgrim is eternally inscrutable to me. And why do you think shraeye is unlikely to be scum given the buddying with Munch that Galz pointed out? Seems a little inconsistent, given your ranking of Munch. Maybe you're won over by shraeye's cases on other players you find scummy. Hm. But seriously -- Morgrim read? How even? Can you explain a little more?
Yeah, your points on Morgrim are really weak. Town Morgrim fits that description too. You should know better.
In answer to your question, I'll quote myself and then attempt to make myself more clear.
Morgrim7 - I always find him scummy, and I am not going to do a full reread, but I can summerize it from memory: Morgrim participates in RVS, he sheeps reads, votes w/o explanation, self votes and then joins the wagon that lynched Grujah. The end.
So in summary, I would prefer to vote for: Dsell, Young Nick, TheMunch, jotheonah, but willing to vote for ftl and Frisk. I don't think I would want to pursue a voltaire or a morgrim lynch at this point.
Yes I do find Morgim likely to be scum because his actions and behavior read scummy to me--but in my quote I preface that with a "I always find him to be scummy." His behavior as I outline is scummy, sheeping reads, voting w/o explanation, more or less being a lurker, wagon joining, etc... But it is typical Morgrim behavior and I fully acknowledge that and as a result I do not think that he is an appropriate lynch candidate at this time, but that doesn't change the fact that I consider him to have a higher chance of being scum then someone who I have a null or town read on.
As for shraeye, my read of him is based off of my memory. as I stated I have not gone back and done a full reread on him. But based on my memory I remember his as a town read because he has been so confrontational and has willingly picked fights with others--I am sure I wrote that someone else. As for his buddying with themunch, I know you have pointed it out, but I haven't seen it on my own, and have not gone back and done a reread on him, so I am unable to make a full comment on it at this point.
In fact, you seem to come to a similar conclusion as me and end up having a null read on him yourself.
My current reads are....
Null:
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shraeye -- Seems to defend Munch way too much. A few opinions that seem inconsistent (e.g. Munch not-scummy vs. ashersky no-lynch defenses of/redirections from Grujah). Nonetheless, he made several cases that I thought were quite good.
PPE: lot's going on with themunch, i'll post again about it...
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