can we get mod-prods on O and igbtennis?
So my post for the day:
1. I was very explicit yesterday that I think speculation about what roles Robz has given out based on our knowledge of the personalities of others is a bad idea. It just gives scum way more information than town. I think I made this argument well and I haven't read an answer*. I am annoyed that this point was ignored. If you are going to continue this practice, you need to answer my arguments first. A couple posts yesterday seemed like straight-up rolefishing. In particular, if the scum is composed primarily of new people (or, if just one scumteam is, if there are multiple scumteams, or if there's a serial killer that's a new person) then thoughts along the lines of "Robz would definitely have given person so-and-so a power role" should not be vocalized. Yes, in theory, a smart mafia would be able to figure all this stuff out, and we all have access to the same information, but in practice, no one is going to read 10 mafia games to do it.
*well, actually, TheMunch defends the practice a little:
"For the people that are giving meta information, I could care less how players played in previous games. Anyone can change their playstyle at any minute and does not come with any value. But for the people that are giving such meta information, it can give insight into potentially what they care about from other players in other games, giving some kind of insight into their scum/protown leaning." ( a few posts ago)
Don't agree:
a. the reason people were speculating is because Robz explicitly said he would tailor roles to personalities, not because we want to know how people play.
b. Knowing "what does player x say player x cares about in player y" does not tell me about whether player x is scum, because if player x is scum, player x can just lie.
2. Jotheonah - it took all the restraint in my body not to respond to your post yesterday attacking me, but I'm glad I didn't because axxle made the explanation that I was going to make, but more succinctly. In this case, the "more information" scum has is that they know lots of card names, whereas townies only know their own.
Here's a hypothetical, imagine that Robz's rule was "having an action card means you are non-vanilla." A vanilla townie has no way of knowing this, and neither does a power role townie, because they can only see one card. But if there's a four person scumteam with a roleblocker and a godfather and they are silver, silver, witch, militia, well then, that scumteam's got a pretty good speculation that action cards match up with power roles. So the point is, if a townie's like "hmm, I am the cartographer, wonder why," the scum is like, sweet, good night-target. That's an example of why I said that nobody should share a card name.
3. To everyone else, I highly recommend the one-thorough-post-a-day strategy. (I know I failed at it myself last night, but I had to correct an error in the voting record, plus there's the genuinely confusing thing). I find that it enormously clarifies my thoughts when I'm not just sniping at everything I disagree with. I also think the noise in here is going to get unbearable (even though it's OK now). I would most like to vote for somebody noisy or for a lurker at the end of the day (I know these are opposites, in a way! By "noise" I mean useless content, not content).
As far as the genuinely confusing thing is concerned... speculation on it is probably unhealthy for town. Suffice it to say though that my case against DSell wasn't overwhelming and I think the genuinely confusing thing makes him look townier. So unvote.
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