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[Robz888]

##Is there a plurality rule for early day deadlines?##

No. We will be using simple majority at all times. If no player receives 13 votes by the end of Day 1, we will have a No Lynch.

[cayvie]

Hey Dsell, what was up with your jotheonah vote a few mins ago?

Clearly working out BMV post-restriction rage. I'm surprised there aren't more votess on me in that vein. 

The odds say Galz is town! If jo is so convinced they're not on the same team, must mean jo is mafia! FOOLPROOF.

I was actually thinking the exact same thing.

Vote: Jotheonah

...

you guys know this logic is terrible, right?

[Axxle]

Hey Dsell, what was up with your jotheonah vote a few mins ago?

Clearly working out BMV post-restriction rage. I'm surprised there aren't more votess on me in that vein. 

The odds say Galz is town! If jo is so convinced they're not on the same team, must mean jo is mafia! FOOLPROOF.

I was actually thinking the exact same thing.

Vote: Jotheonah

...

you guys know this logic is terrible, right?

And yet it's the only logic we have.

[cayvie]

So. Huh. 13 to lynch.

That'll be... interesting.

[jotheonah]

you guys forget, I've never ever been mafia in a normal game. Galz has.

[jotheonah]

I've also never been lynched D1!

[cayvie]

I've also never been lynched D1!

Clearly you're unlynchable D1 in this game!

[Axxle]

Joth is fighting *way* too hard for just one vote on him.

Also:

They will be subtly based on aspects of players personalities. (For example, the following line of thinking will not work in this game: "Jotheonah has twice been the Serial Killer, so he's probably the Serial Killer in this game.") Furthermore, some roles and alignments WILL be determined randomly.

[Galzria]

you guys forget, I've never ever been mafia in a normal game. Galz has.

M-XI, my 9th regular Mafia game. In my first 8, I'm 7 town, 1 scum. Feels like I've been scum more, doesn't it? Just goes to prove my point about myself: "town that always appears scummy? Yes."

[cayvie]

you guys forget, I've never ever been mafia in a normal game. Galz has.

M-XI, my 9th regular Mafia game. In my first 8, I'm 7 town, 1 scum. Feels like I've been scum more, doesn't it? Just goes to prove my point about myself: "town that always appears scummy? Yes."

my meta for you is "terrible roles"

[Galzria]

you guys forget, I've never ever been mafia in a normal game. Galz has.

M-XI, my 9th regular Mafia game. In my first 8, I'm 7 town, 1 scum. Feels like I've been scum more, doesn't it? Just goes to prove my point about myself: "town that always appears scummy? Yes."

my meta for you is "terrible roles"

THIS. omg, this. And again: This.

[Galzria]

Cayvie has played in 2 games. Both town. She's been on two lynch wagons. Both against scum. Cayvie = IC with instincts like a hawk.

[jotheonah]

you guys forget, I've never ever been mafia in a normal game. Galz has.

M-XI, my 9th regular Mafia game. In my first 8, I'm 7 town, 1 scum. Feels like I've been scum more, doesn't it? Just goes to prove my point about myself: "town that always appears scummy? Yes."

Does this mean we've almost always been on the same team when we've fought each other?

[jotheonah]

In other news there are like umpteen million people in this game, and some of them are brand new to f.ds forum mafia. And some of them only played games I didn't read. So if you guys want to do the standard introduction, tell us how much mafia you've played/read and where, that would be helpful!

[Galzria]

you guys forget, I've never ever been mafia in a normal game. Galz has.

M-XI, my 9th regular Mafia game. In my first 8, I'm 7 town, 1 scum. Feels like I've been scum more, doesn't it? Just goes to prove my point about myself: "town that always appears scummy? Yes."

Does this mean we've almost always been on the same team when we've fought each other?

M-II: no
M-III: no
M-IV: yes
M-V: You were mod
M-VI: yes
M-VII: you didn't play
M-VIII: you didn't play
M-IX: you didn't play
M-X: neither of us played
M-XI:

So no, we're 50/50.

[Galzria]

In other news there are like umpteen million people in this game, and some of them are brand new to f.ds forum mafia. And some of them only played games I didn't read. So if you guys want to do the standard introduction, tell us how much mafia you've played/read and where, that would be helpful!

Actually, with that, I'm going to shut up for awhile and go get lunch. Let's get some new voices in here. This thread is already going to be impossible to keep up with.

[jotheonah]

In other news there are like umpteen million people in this game, and some of them are brand new to f.ds forum mafia. And some of them only played games I didn't read. So if you guys want to do the standard introduction, tell us how much mafia you've played/read and where, that would be helpful!

Actually, with that, I'm going to shut up for awhile and go get lunch. Let's get some new voices in here. This thread is already going to be impossible to keep up with.

Seconded. Only replace lunch with nap.

[ftl]

Looking over the player list, I see ibgtennis! Yay tennis! ObvIC, because tennis is awesome.

Vote: Dsell for Morgrim-hunting.

[ehunt]

Hey everyone.

First, Robz says very explicitly in the intro post that, although roles will be tweaked to personalities as exhibited in past mafia games, the probability that a given player is scum will not be. So most of the Robz-speculation is irrelevant. Moreover, anything we logic out will almost certainly help scum (who have more information) more than town. For example, if I logically deduce "there cannot be a tracker" but mafia knows that there is a tracker, then mafia will realize that the tracker isn't me, and it will make their hunt for power-roles either. So I'm not crazy about the Robz-speculation phase.

Second, I think Morgrim-hunting is a scumtell. Which is to say, vote: Dsell. I don't like how you characterized your vote as being a policy vote and then decided later that it was actually an RVS vote. ScumFrisk did exactly that in MIX (sadly, scumVoltgloss convinced a whole bunch of scum and a couple townies that Morgrim-hunting-hunting was the scumtell. Moral: Morgrim-hunting^n is a scumtell if and only if n is odd (n=0 is the case of just being Morgrim, which is neutral)).

Third, I want to encourage everyone to be very cautious about naming your card name or revealing anything about your card name (like if it is action, treasure, curse, etc.). As far as I can tell it doesn't function to provide "named townies" (since we are told it's possible for multiple folks to share a card). I am concerned that we will have a repeat of MIX, where there were scum power roles that benefitted from knowing names of cards (or, more accurately, suits). In particular, I think it's not best to reveal your card name even if you are at L - 1 since the card name does nothing to prove your alignment and may help scum, who have a lot more information.

[jotheonah]

In particular, I think it's not best to reveal your card name even if you are at L - 1 since the card name does nothing to prove your alignment and may help scum, who have a lot more information.

I wonder how you come to know how much information the scum have. The absence of a "may" in that statement speaks volumes.

[Cuzz]

Before I get called out for lurking I just wanna let people know I'm v/la all weekend (phone posting atm but won't have too much opportunity for that). Hopefully won't go the way of pps D1 of BMV. See you Monday afternoon.

[Axxle]

In particular, I think it's not best to reveal your card name even if you are at L - 1 since the card name does nothing to prove your alignment and may help scum, who have a lot more information.

I wonder how you come to know how much information the scum have. The absence of a "may" in that statement speaks volumes.

Mafia: an informed minority vs. an uninformed majority.

[Axxle]

Second, I think Morgrim-hunting is a scumtell. Which is to say, vote: Dsell. I don't like how you characterized your vote as being a policy vote and then decided later that it was actually an RVS vote. ScumFrisk did exactly that in MIX (sadly, scumVoltgloss convinced a whole bunch of scum and a couple townies that Morgrim-hunting-hunting was the scumtell. Moral: Morgrim-hunting^n is a scumtell if and only if n is odd (n=0 is the case of just being Morgrim, which is neutral)).

Vote: DSell

[ftl]

Before I get called out for lurking I just wanna let people know I'm v/la all weekend (phone posting atm but won't have too much opportunity for that). Hopefully won't go the way of pps D1 of BMV. See you Monday afternoon.

If you don't vote for yourself (twice!) you won't go the way of pps D1 of BMV.

[eHalcyon]

I do not consider my role to be reflective of my past games or my personality. Just throwing that out there.