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[Captain_Frisk]

(careful not to talk about ongoing games)

Oh, yeah. Don't mention MVII.

I think all of the games sharky has played in are still ongoing, yes?

You have an excellent example of him playing mafia in BM4 - which just ended!

[Axxle]

(careful not to talk about ongoing games)

Oh, yeah. Don't mention MVII.

I think all of the games sharky has played in are still ongoing, yes?

You have an excellent example of him playing mafia in BM4 - which just ended!

Holy crap, I really thought he was just spectating.

[Captain_Frisk]

You have an excellent example of him playing mafia in BM4 - which just ended!

Holy crap, I really thought he was just spectating.

I have no idea how people got that impression.

[Voltgloss]

I think of BM4 as more of an "event" than "game."

[shark_bait]

Don't worry, I wasn't planning on mentioned VII at all!  Well one thing I will do better is reading the rules and not getting modkilled, but apart from that, I think one thing I'm not good at is scumhunting.  If I truly think someone is town, a little voice in the back of my head says "WIFOM" and then I second guess myself.  I still am not confident on myself to distinguish between town play and scum play.  And then there is BMMMMM1 (which is still in progress so I'll just mention my stuff).  I decided as cop to just play a nice and easy D1, work on the MM part but I get called out lurking and not actively caring about catching scum.  My first response could probably have been better as it led to more votes against me which basically made me claim PR to Eevee.

So what do I plan on changing?  I plan on taking notes in a document about my thoughts on various players and discussions.  In this way I am not constantly forced to look back in the thread to find information.  I can save time which can then be used for more productive things.

[shark_bait]

Dude... Frisk, you can't really count BMIV.  I was only able to play that way b/c you explicitly omitted the player list.  Everyone knows that I'm actually playing in this game.

[Captain_Frisk]

Dude... Frisk, you can't really count BMIV.  I was only able to play that way b/c you explicitly omitted the player list.  Everyone knows that I'm actually playing in this game.

So you are admitting that you're going to play scum differently here.  Got it.

[sparky5856]

Hey shark you changing your play style to cover for the fax your scum this game?

vote sharky

oh wow. That h is gonna get annoying real fast >_<

I'm with eHunt that there's value in learning how people behave. That's usually how I approach these games. I've only played like, eight or nine games to the end online. I remember being mafia more often than town though >_< But everyone said I was a skilled player when mafia. Those games weren't very intense though. We very often were setback by inactive players, never saying anything because they "couldn't find things to say". A lot of modkills occurred. Anyways, in my first game when I was scum, I had two partners and one of them got killed by the Vigilante. During day 3 the Vigilante suspected me and my remaining partner as the remaining scum, and so I backstabbed my remaining partner out of nowhere by accusing and voting him, in a last-ditch effort to survive. I did end up winning that game, but it was a very risky stunt I'm not likely to repeat. It actually cost me a lot of games that I played afterwards, because I often got lynched because no one could trust me 

So behavior matters.

It's easy to mistake the eccentricity for scumminess.

I can confirm this as well. So many Townies were lynched when I played for this very reason.

[shraeye]

Hey shark you changing your play style to cover for the fax your scum this game?

vote sharky

oh wow. That h is gonna get annoying real fast >_<

Yeah, sharky looks too much like sparky for me; I assume that's what you're talking about

[ftl]

Yeah, in this game it's probably better to use full names. "sharkbait" not "sharky" please folks.

[yuma]

Yeah, in this game it's probably better to use full names. "sharkbait" not "sharky" please folks.

my apologies

vote: sharkbait

[shark_bait]

Dude... Frisk, you can't really count BMIV.  I was only able to play that way b/c you explicitly omitted the player list.  Everyone knows that I'm actually playing in this game.

So you are admitting that you're going to play scum differently here.  Got it.

You're forgetting Frisk.  I "wasn't" playing in BMIV 

[angrybirds]

I'm going to confuse sparky and shraeye for the foreseeable future. How can I differentiate them? What's your playstyle? Angrybirds I can remember because he's twinclaimed by yuma.

What does twinclaimed mean?

[angrybirds]

To angrybirds, shraeye, other new folks - in MVI when I was brand new I found the constant references to old mafia games annoying and not helpful,  but you do actually learn a lot from them if you sit down and read through them. They are pretty hard to skim, though, and long.

i viewed throughout most of the third game and the medical game
you played well in the med one

[cayvie]

Vote Count
Morgrim7 (1): Captain_Frisk
Eevee (1): Axxle
yuma (1): Insomniac
shark_bait (1): yuma
Captain_Frisk (1): Morgrim7
Galzria (2): O, angrybirds
Axxle (1): ftl
ehunt (1): Voltgloss

with 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch.

[Axxle]

Vote Count
Galzria (2): O, angrybirds

Sure

Vote: Galzria

[Insomniac]

Didnt know I still had my joke vote on yuma

Unvote

[Captain_Frisk]

I'm going to confuse sparky and shraeye for the foreseeable future. How can I differentiate them? What's your playstyle? Angrybirds I can remember because he's twinclaimed by yuma.

What does twinclaimed mean?

Its a f.ds thing.  Glooble and Jotheonah are allegedly real-life twins.  They "revealed" halfway through MIV.

[Axxle]

I'm going to confuse sparky and shraeye for the foreseeable future. How can I differentiate them? What's your playstyle? Angrybirds I can remember because he's twinclaimed by yuma.

What does twinclaimed mean?

Its a f.ds thing.  Glooble and Jotheonah are allegedly real-life twins.  They "revealed" halfway through MIV.

In the general case it means two people who know each other in real life.

[ftl]

Well, one way to get things going is to start a wagon. Vote: Galzria . Because he's scummy.

[ftl]

Oh, wait, axxle just did that and I missed it. Failz on my part, I thought I was the third vote.

Well, I'm the fourth I guess.

[sparky5856]

Galzria is certainly outspoken. I'm especially questioning his interrogatory quintuple post. Not something you see every day.

We're almost on page 7. Is it time to start the inevitable bandwagon? I don't want to get onboard just yet. I need more convincing.

[angrybirds]

Galzria is certainly outspoken. I'm especially questioning his interrogatory quintuple post. Not something you see every day.

We're almost on page 7. Is it time to start the inevitable bandwagon? I don't want to get onboard just yet. I need more convincing.

i would suggest his complete lack of posts since very very early this morning could be compelling

[shraeye]

i would suggest [Galzria's] complete lack of posts since very very early this morning could be compelling

But he warned us of V/LA this weekend starting today.  He's only made 5 posts today, and only one suggests that he spent any time on it.  O and Morgrim haven't posted in even longer, but neither have made ANY posts in the last 15.5 hours.  I'd say at this point that length in time from posting where so little has been revealed is a pretty flimsy reason.

If you want something more interesting to discuss look at this post:

So I was gonna say that the main benefit of suit claiming might be to discern if we are dealing with one or two scum factions but perhaps the wind will tell us so I'm going to be against suit claiming

where Insomniac posits that suit-claiming will let us know how many factions we are dealing with.  Protip: it won't tell us anything unless either wands/swords or pentacles/cups had no claimers since we have no good way to tell or suspect that a particular suitclaim is scum.  Maybe he and his scummates were planning to claim in the other suits (all WW wands move to Cups, all WW Swords move to Pentacles, as an example) and make it look like there was one less faction.  No real evidence here, only a bit of food for thought.

Or look at these posts:

[AT END OF POST]
While outing mafia-aligned major arcana would be good, outing town-aligned major arcana would be really, really bad, they'll be our super-powered power roles. We wouldn't know whether the Major Arcana we out are mafia or town, but scum certainly would.

I assume mafia-aligned major arcana would just lie anyway.  Or pretend to be town aligned.

In which f.DS.mafia veterans both forget that there could be extra scum factions, only referring to mafia in their posts.  Could be a slip of thought since most games here only have mafia.  But I bet neither of them is SK or WW; hard to forget yourself.  But wouldn't every good townie be super-paranoid of ALL the baddies....?

[Axxle]

Unless it matters, I use mafia and scum interchangeably.  Doesn't really matter until we talk about scumbuddies.