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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #425 on: July 24, 2012, 04:01:44 pm »

RobZ - will you rank eeVee, Galz, Young Nick, and timchen in order of suspicion?  You're kindof messing up the spreadsheet.

Fine! The demands of you people. I'm currently trying to conquer Europe.

Suspicious, PPS, Frisk, Manda, Young Nick, Eevee, Galzria, Timchen, Sharky, Not Suspicious

Thank you.  I'll have QVist style rankings out as soons Fuzzy and Manda post their lists.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #426 on: July 24, 2012, 04:08:03 pm »

Can we expect short little summaries of the various things people have said about each person  :P
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #427 on: July 24, 2012, 04:09:20 pm »

RobZ - will you rank eeVee, Galz, Young Nick, and timchen in order of suspicion?  You're kindof messing up the spreadsheet.

Fine! The demands of you people. I'm currently trying to conquer Europe.

Suspicious, PPS, Frisk, Manda, Young Nick, Eevee, Galzria, Timchen, Sharky, Not Suspicious

Thank you.  I'll have QVist style rankings out as soons Fuzzy and Manda post their lists.
Just woke up from a nap, I'll be compiling a list in two hours (try to reread something first to gather some actual insight).
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #428 on: July 24, 2012, 04:26:09 pm »

Can we expect short little summaries of the various things people have said about each person  :P

Probably not. 
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #429 on: July 24, 2012, 04:27:50 pm »

Can we expect short little summaries of the various things people have said about each person  :P

Probably not.

Well, I demand it! You lurker.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #430 on: July 24, 2012, 04:38:17 pm »

Something like:

Galzria / RobZ is considered a strong opening - currently ranked 44 on councilroom?
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #431 on: July 24, 2012, 04:50:25 pm »

Something like:

Galzria / RobZ is considered a strong opening - currently ranked 44 on councilroom?

Now where's that damn +1...

Oh well, here, have a cookie.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #432 on: July 24, 2012, 04:51:56 pm »

Something like:

Galzria / RobZ is considered a strong opening - currently ranked 44 on councilroom?

Now where's that damn +1...

Oh well, here, have a cookie.

Which one of you is the higher costed card?
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #433 on: July 24, 2012, 05:14:47 pm »

Something like:

Galzria / RobZ is considered a strong opening - currently ranked 44 on councilroom?

Now where's that damn +1...

Oh well, here, have a cookie.

Which one of you is the higher costed card?

Me. I've won more forum games than Robz. ;D
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #434 on: July 24, 2012, 06:04:18 pm »

I'm here! Reading everything a couple of times. Post coming soon.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #435 on: July 24, 2012, 06:17:56 pm »

All right - I'm going to have to shut down for a few hours on account of family times.  My spreadsheet is looking snazzy.

Am I allowed to post images in here?
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #436 on: July 24, 2012, 06:46:01 pm »

Aaaaaaalright. Here's my list, and within it, my answer to Frisk's question from several pages back.

Willing to lynch:
Sharky, for reasons I've stated repeatedly. However, I'm becoming less sure as the game goes on. Like Galz said, he's the scummiest player here right now but I'm now open to the possibility that he's just making noob mistakes.

Might be willing to lynch:
PPS: He seems to be trying really hard to help the town, but his insistence on having found the mafia pair this early in the game makes me very wary. Sure, it's technically possible, but I don't like that he's pushing so hard for it.
Robz: His new playstyle is really off-putting. But I don't know that I think changing everything up is something he'd do if he were scum. Then again, I've only followed games where he was town.
Eevee: I don't like how he said he didn't have any reads on anything yet, and talking about how he's going to reread so he can try to be helpful seems like a mafiapology to me, but he says he has a list coming soon, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Unwilling to lynch (today):
Frisk: Mostly feels like town to me, but is the most suspicious of my town reads
timchen: Practically no read, which I don't like, but he still mostly FEELS town to me. Also, I'm really curious as to what he "hasn't said yet."
YN: pretty strong town read
Galz: strong town read
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #437 on: July 24, 2012, 07:01:15 pm »

Furry - you are last
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #438 on: July 24, 2012, 08:03:43 pm »

Furry - you are last
Sorry, got caught up with poker action (yay). Didnt have time to reread anything, but:

From most willing to least willing to lynch: manda, young_nick, sharky, timchen, galzria, robz, PPS, captain frisk, eevee. I think I could be swayed to voting anyone but me if someone presented a good case or made a scumslip or something, which just shows how lost I am here. One point though, will newer players be able to conceal their mafianess as well as the veterans? Maybe I should look more carefully to robz, galzria and frisk, just because they are most likely to be able to play sneaky sneaky mafia?

PPS and Frisk seem to be the most active at scumhunting, so even if I find them equally scummy to someone else, I guess they are going to be more of an asset to town in case they are town so less willing to vote for them (+ want to reward the effort). Robz might be more useful later if he gets more interested in the game, but I wouldnt want to reward the playstyle he chose here even if I dont think its an indicator of scumminess.

Thing is, the list is pretty much random, I really have shamefully little reads on anyone here. Dont know why this is so hard, maybe because the action was so slow earlier and I was reading a post and waiting 3 hours for the next one to come or something, but I dont think my list is going to be very useful at all.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #439 on: July 24, 2012, 08:41:25 pm »

Some food for thoughts here: frisk has almost 4 times the post count I have here... but I can hardly see even two times the content.

If you investigate the previous games, I don't think he is so much a frequent poster, especially at this stage.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #440 on: July 24, 2012, 09:32:05 pm »

Ok - back at a computer. 

Here's the results of our table:



And the rankings - in lynchability:

1. RobZ - Average Rank - 3.125 / Max Rank: 1 (SB) / Min Rank: 6 (Eevee)
By far the #1

2. Captain_Frisk - Average Rank - 3.625 / Max Rank: 1 (Galz, timchen, PPS) / Min Rank: 8 (eeVee,shark_bait)
3. Manda - Average Rank 3.875 / Max Rank: 1 (Captain_Frisk, Eevee) / Min Rank: 7 (Galzria / YN)


4t. PPS - Average Rank 4.5 / Max Rank: 1 (RobZ) / Min Rank: 8 (timchen)
4t. YN - Average Rank 4.5 / Max Rank: 2 (eeVee) / Min Rank: 7 (manda)
4t. SB - Average Rank 4.5 / Max Rank: 1 (YN,Manda) / Min Rank: 8 (RobZ,Galzria,Captain_Frisk)
And a 3 way tie for 4th!  SB is the most polarizing character here.

7. TC - Average Rank 4.625 / Max Rank: 2 (Captain_Frisk, Galzria) / Min Rank: 7 (RobZ)
8. eeVee - Average Rank 4.875 / Max Rank: 3 (timchen) / Min Rank: 7 (SB,PPS)
Still close behind the middle of the pack

9. Galzria - Average Rank 6.875 / Max Rank: 5 (EeVee) / Min Rank: 8 (manda,YN,pps)
This isn't even close.

I think this is interesting.  It won't draw perfect parallels to MIV, as the scum here only have to vote for one of their teammates.

Here's the same chart - but with the Yes / Maybe / No designations.  I had to use some interpretation for those who refused to provide a yes / no maybe... for example i assumed that eeVee was willing to lynch his top 2, and unwilling to lynch the bottom 2.


So - everyone is maybe willing to lynch RobZ - but more people actively want to lynch me.

Also of note - pairs of people unwilling to lynch eachother:

timchen / manda
pps / timchen
pps / eevee

I don't think that these are material - but spreadsheets are fun.

What do you all think? I'm happy we actually got everyone to talk today - but I'd really like to hear from the more quiet people.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #441 on: July 24, 2012, 11:12:15 pm »

I wish I have more things to say (still studying). But your pairing apparently lacks frisk/shark, which lists each other at #8. This is beyond stupid for a scum pair (except some WIFOM) and does point me toward other directions.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #442 on: July 25, 2012, 06:18:10 am »

I find it interesting that in my column each weight is represented; I got a unique weighting from each player.

Thanks for the work, Frisk.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #443 on: July 25, 2012, 07:49:08 am »

Would be willing to Lynch
Robz

Might be willing to Lynch
Manda
PPS
YN
TC
Galz
Eevee
CF

With the might be list in order of most likely (If I weren't voting for Robz, I'd probably be voting one of these) to least likely (I don't 100% trust them, but I will not support a wagon against them)

I wish I have more things to say (still studying). But your pairing apparently lacks frisk/shark, which lists each other at #8. This is beyond stupid for a scum pair (except some WIFOM) and does point me toward other directions.

Shark_bait had me in his "maybe" section, although to be consistent I probably should have dropped the last 2 into "unwilling", so that does make us a pairing of unwilling voters.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #444 on: July 25, 2012, 07:50:07 am »

Would be willing to Lynch
Robz

Might be willing to Lynch
Manda
PPS
YN
TC
Galz
Eevee
CF

With the might be list in order of most likely (If I weren't voting for Robz, I'd probably be voting one of these) to least likely (I don't 100% trust them, but I will not support a wagon against them)

I wish I have more things to say (still studying). But your pairing apparently lacks frisk/shark, which lists each other at #8. This is beyond stupid for a scum pair (except some WIFOM) and does point me toward other directions.

Shark_bait had me in his "maybe" section, although to be consistent I probably should have dropped the last 2 into "unwilling", so that does make us a pairing of unwilling voters.

This would also make SB + eeVee another pair.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #445 on: July 25, 2012, 08:04:02 am »

Come on - I was hoping for an explosion of discussion here.  We now have everyone on the record.

1st observation - we probably shouldn't lynch RobZ.  If we all agree on it, then its likely that the mafia agrees. 
2nd observeration - none of us suspect Galzria at all.
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« Reply #446 on: July 25, 2012, 08:58:12 am »

Come on - I was hoping for an explosion of discussion here.  We now have everyone on the record.

1st observation - we probably shouldn't lynch RobZ.  If we all agree on it, then its likely that the mafia agrees. 
2nd observeration - none of us suspect Galzria at all.
I didnt agree on a robz lynch. Galz is indeed flying super under the radar.
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« Reply #447 on: July 25, 2012, 08:59:58 am »

Come on - I was hoping for an explosion of discussion here.  We now have everyone on the record.

1st observation - we probably shouldn't lynch RobZ.  If we all agree on it, then its likely that the mafia agrees. 
2nd observeration - none of us suspect Galzria at all.
I didnt agree on a robz lynch. Galz is indeed flying super under the radar.

You didn't give me yes / no / maybe, so I put your top 2 in yes, and bottom 2 in no, and the rest maybe.
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #448 on: July 25, 2012, 09:14:20 am »

Come on - I was hoping for an explosion of discussion here.  We now have everyone on the record.

1st observation - we probably shouldn't lynch RobZ.  If we all agree on it, then its likely that the mafia agrees. 
2nd observeration - none of us suspect Galzria at all.
I didnt agree on a robz lynch. Galz is indeed flying super under the radar.

You didn't give me yes / no / maybe, so I put your top 2 in yes, and bottom 2 in no, and the rest maybe.

Oh yes, my bad. I though I had robz one spot lower than I did. I had shark_bait 3rd, how are we a pair?
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Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 1 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #449 on: July 25, 2012, 09:18:50 am »

Come on - I was hoping for an explosion of discussion here.  We now have everyone on the record.

1st observation - we probably shouldn't lynch RobZ.  If we all agree on it, then its likely that the mafia agrees. 
2nd observeration - none of us suspect Galzria at all.
I didnt agree on a robz lynch. Galz is indeed flying super under the radar.

You didn't give me yes / no / maybe, so I put your top 2 in yes, and bottom 2 in no, and the rest maybe.

Oh yes, my bad. I though I had robz one spot lower than I did. I had shark_bait 3rd, how are we a pair?

Inability to read charts without sufficient coffee in the morning is my only excuse.
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