Alright, down to business. First up, by player, in alphabetical order, by day:
Galzria:
Day 1 Posts:
#21, #23, #25, #26, #72, #78, #81, #88, #93, #95, #98, #100, #116, #118, #122, #125, #128, #133, #134, #135, #138, #139, #145, #147, #151, #158, #170, #179, #183, #188, #202, #203, #207, #211
Posts of interest:
#72 - Cast vote on Voltgloss, because he has played very randomly to start.
#93 - Voice suspicion of Bozzball for voting Robz without reason.
#116 - Unvote Voltgloss. State belief that he has started directing his actions. Voice suspicion of Morgrim, but Mafia or Role, not sure.
#128 - Hone in on thoughts regarding Morgrim. Still not sure if he's Mafia, Role, or town playing poorly.
#138 - Rundown on reads so far. Warn against possible Morgrim mislynch. Vote Bozzball.
#151 - Laid out case for lynching Morgrim, laid out case for having vote cast on Bozzball.
#170 - Unvote Bozzball, Vote Morgrim
#202 - Explain why I didn't want to be associated with a Bozzball bandwagon.
#203 - Clarify above explanation, and show why "pointing-at-next-most-likely-suspect" seems suspicious.
#211 - Went to bed, and woke up during "Night 1"
Relevant Conclusions (read: How I see things NOW, looking back): I was only really suspicious of 3 people Day 1. I was CONSTANTLY wary of getting bad reads however. Morgrim, for all he did wrong, had his moments where I really did wonder - And I voiced this. My suspicions of Bozzball kind of held true all the way through. He never DID participate a lot, and I was warned very early to look for that as signs of Mafia play. Still, I wasn't willing to put my name on a bad lynch THEN, without more information. That's a town move, not a Mafia one. In the end I DID put my name on a bad lynch, but at least I (and everybody else) had ample reason to believe it was a decent choice.
Day 2 Posts:
#242, #245, #256, #261, #264, #265, #272, #273, #275, #276, #277, #286, #293, #296, #297, #306, #314, #318, #323, #324, #333, #335, #343, #345, #352, #353, #357, #359, #360, #361, #365, #367, #369, #373, #378, #382, #383, #389, #391, #396, #397, #407, #408, #412, #418, #420, #423, #425, #426, #430, #452, #453, #455, #471, #476, #490, #494, #497, #498, #500, #518, #519, #524, #528, #531, #533
Posts of interest:
#261 - First analytical post of the day. Suspicion orders listed. Suspect everybody, but highly suspicious of Jotheonah, and Kuildeous.
#264 - Defend myself from accusations by Kuildeous and Robz. Strengthen my case against Kuildeous.
#276 - Vote Axxle
#277 - Put together an informational post only listing what I perceive to be each persons thoughts.
#286 - Show suspicion of the way Robz/Volt have been making their cases.
#306 - Dissect and defend Robz's accusations of ME made in post #295. I note that I don't like his methods or reasons, but understand his conclusions.
#360 - I state a firm belief that Jotheonah is town, and Kuildeous is Mafia. I also bump Voltgloss up to my #2 suspect, but note that Robz is very close behind.
#373 - Reconfirm Jotheonah as being completely innocent in my book, indicate a shift in opinion on bozzball from day 1.
#382 - My case against Kuildeous, laid out in full, for Voltgloss.
#407 - I suggest the idea that I could be wrong on Jotheonah. I don't THINK that I am, but given his unconditional support of me, and absolute desire from the start of day 2 to be my friend, this is a terrifying prospect.
#412 - I request a better argument against Robz from Insomniac than the one he's made. Too many straw-man cases in this game already, we don't need another.
#426 - My case against Kuildeous, laid out in full, for Jotheonah.
#452 - I wonder at Kuildeous's constant target switching
#471 - My "top 2" other Mafia prospects past Kuildeous change to... Insomniac and Robz! (Hmm... notice a trend with those two?)
#476 - I posit some interesting theories based on how I would see things if Kuildeous comes back Mafia, AND if he comes back Town. Volt reads possible Mafia both ways. Insomniac reads town if Kuildeous is innocent, and Robz reads Mafia. Also, more suspicion to J if K comes back town.
#500 - I point out how a bad lynch is actually probably better for us than a no lynch.
#528 - I'm the only one to support K in my willingness to kill a known town member (bozzball) to prevent a town-suicide situation by the Mafia NOT lynching him Night 2, and making us unable to get 3 town votes day 3.
#533 - Put my vote down on Kuildeous to stay.
Relevant Conclusions: Well, this is the day I could die for. My mistake was (near) fatal to the town, and put us at a HUGE disadvantage. I led the crusade against Kuildeous, and it's hard to put this blame anywhere else. I was fully aware Day 2 that if I was wrong, town would likely lose (see post #476), and all I can do now is try to prevent that from happening. I've misled twice, and am very hesitant to be the "leader" day 3 as well. While I fully believed in my case, I absolutely did not fail to observe where my thoughts would lie if I were wrong. I was wrong. The only thing that's changed since post #476 in my beliefs is that Insomniac now seems more Scum than Town to me. I wouldn't have thought it at the end of day 2, but his actions day 3 leave me leaning that way. One thing I'll say for myself here day 2: I never waivered. This could easily be spun in a positive light, or a negative, so I'll let you make your own conclusions. But I was always willing to listen to arguments against other people, even if I wasn't willing to change my vote.
Day 3 Posts:
#547, #548, #549, #552, #553, #558, #576, #579, #586, #592, #596, #598, #604, #612
Posts if interests:
#547 - I indicate that I'm quite willing to reconsider Insomniac's arguments, but that I'll also be looking closely at Kuildeous's suspects list.
#549 - I point out that Insomniac's vote on Robz can only really mean 1 of 2 things: Insomniac is Mafia, or Robz is. They COULD be both town, but that just doesn't fit with Insomniac's actions.
#552 - I debunk much of Robz's post, which had some nuggets of good info, but was largely misleading. Still believe Insomniac to be more likely Mafia based on instant day 3 vote. I didn't like that AT all.
#553 - I'm a bit thrown by Robz's claim. Not entirely buying it, but need time to think.
#558 - Recognition of my mistakes day 2. Accept responsibility for them.
#579 - Confirm that yes, I am playing day 3 a little more... "backround" than the first two days. I've led the town once (and arguably twice) into bad lynches. I want to make what I feel is a more informed decision today.
#592 - Kind of lay out my feelings up to this point. After considering Robz's claim more, and watching the back and forth between him and Insomniac, I'm leaning towards Robz being Doctor, not Mafia. Still not nearly sure enough to make that thought final.
#598 - Reaffirm again that I am very much on the fence between those two.
Relevant Conclusions: Well, I'm not sure yet that there are any for day 3 by itself. I've made too many mistakes in the past. I am being ultra-cautious today. Maybe too much so, but at this point, I don't care if that brings suspicion on me or makes me an easy target for the Mafia. I'm sure that most of the other townies feel the same way. We need to take our time and be sure of this vote. At this point, I'm not sure of a lot of things. I'm doing my best to figure them out.
Overall conclusions: Well, here we are. Looking back, prior to day 3, the only people I never really made a case against were: Tables, Jotheonah, and Insomniac. Yes, there were times I thought both J and I might be Mafia, but I never really flushed out those feelings. Don't take that to mean that I think they are NOW, just that I think I need to explore the chance that they MAY be more than some others. My most damning moment is certainly the result of my Day 2 actions, but if you can look past that as an honest mistake (and trying too hard to find Mafia hiding behind good (not suspicious) play), I think I've been very town focused. Still, a long way to go.
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Alright, putting in a pause here. I'm going to post this as part 1 of 6. I didn't expect to put so much effort into this, but of course, I can't help but go overboard. I'm going to do one of these posts for each person alive, and then one post putting together pairs based on play. My intention here is to help create an easy reference guide for everybody else as well to flip back through the days and see where each person made useful posts (and a list of every post they made, in case you just want to read up on even the seemingly irrelevant things they said).
Again, I ask that you hang with me. This isn't an easy assignment, but I think it will be largely beneficial to the town once complete. Feel free to disagree with any conclusions that I draw. I'm hoping this will lead me, as well as others who are unsure, to a more firm understanding of where we're at. I know some of you are busy for the next day or so, so I HOPE to have time to get through this all before we play ourselves into a loss. I'll always be watching anything new that gets added, even while diving into the past though, so I hope we can keep these conversations going.
Part 2 I hope to have up later tonight, and will be Insomniac.
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