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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1275 on: December 03, 2019, 10:14:03 am »

I am the SK.

Mail-mi, welcome. I hope you are what you say you are

I am not lying, I am the psychiatrist.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1276 on: December 03, 2019, 10:15:51 am »

Day One Claims/Deaths:
     sudgy - Miller (fake)
     joth (lynch) - Town DayVig
     Awaclus (vig death) - Town Cop-of-All-Trades
Night One Deaths:
     Glooble - Alpha Werewolf
     pingpongsam - Town Doctor
     sudgy - Town Conspiracy Theorist
     Archetype - Town Mason Doctor

Day Two Claims/Deaths:
     Bright - 1-Shot Vig (did not claim alignment, claimed sudgy kill)
     faust (lynch) - Alien Sympathizer
     DatSwan - Vanilla'd 1-Shot Kingmaker (claimed to not use shot N1)
     Galz - Investigative (did not claim specific role or alignment)
Night Two Deaths:
     e - Town Jack-of-All-Trades
     MiX - Alien Vanillaiser

Day Three Claims/Deaths:
     raerae - Town Nymphomaniac, Vanilla'd N2
     SpaceAnemone (lynch) - Mafia Compulsive Hider
Night Three Deaths:
     pubby - Werewolf
     Joseph2302 - Town One-Shot Governor
     WestCoastDidds - Town Private Investigator
     EFHW - Town Vanilla Cop

Day Four Claims/Deaths:
     Eevee - Town Tracker
     mail-mi - Psychiatrist
     Uncleeurope - Survivor
     shraeye - Town Vig
     Galzria - Bloodhound
     LaLight - SK
Added the rest of the claims.

Btw, if you don't lynch me, I'd be very happy to be investigated by Galzria. I could randomize my shot between checking mail-mi or someone else for example.

I think we can trust Galzria's claim, the only way he could have gotten the Alien result and known Space returns No result if he wasn't town was if he was werewolf cop as far as I can tell.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1277 on: December 03, 2019, 10:16:39 am »

@Mod If A SK is cured, will their kill go through that night?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1278 on: December 03, 2019, 10:17:01 am »

I wonder if lalight is lying and they're the last WW and pulling this stunt. It's not unlikely, but I lean toward truth
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1279 on: December 03, 2019, 10:17:44 am »

@Mod If A SK is cured, will their kill go through that night?

Yes
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1280 on: December 03, 2019, 10:20:59 am »

Galzria, who were your targets?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1281 on: December 03, 2019, 10:24:46 am »

We kind of have two lynches here if LL would agree to use his shot for good or not shoot at all if we decide that's best. And if shraeye is a full vig and not lying mafia, that would give us three shots to scum 1 (or 2). Hmm.

Doesn't fill me with happiness planning this, knowing someone will almost certainly shoot me, but alas. I think town has a chance here unless there are more scum left than we anticipate.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1282 on: December 03, 2019, 11:20:37 am »

We kind of have two lynches here if LL would agree to use his shot for good or not shoot at all if we decide that's best. And if shraeye is a full vig and not lying mafia, that would give us three shots to scum 1 (or 2). Hmm.

Doesn't fill me with happiness planning this, knowing someone will almost certainly shoot me, but alas. I think town has a chance here unless there are more scum left than we anticipate.

I will cooperate and not shoot if that's what we decide, but I sincerely think shooting is better. It's like an extralynch.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1283 on: December 03, 2019, 11:23:39 am »

How about "there's no rb and Galz is an alien" option?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1284 on: December 03, 2019, 11:24:14 am »

Oh then Eevee would tell if he's town
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1285 on: December 03, 2019, 02:14:20 pm »

I wonder if lalight is lying and they're the last WW and pulling this stunt. It's not unlikely, but I lean toward truth

I mean I lean toward Lalight is telling the truth
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1286 on: December 03, 2019, 02:27:04 pm »

I wonder if lalight is lying and they're the last WW and pulling this stunt. It's not unlikely, but I lean toward truth

I mean I lean toward Lalight is telling the truth

If LaLight is what he claims, then Shraeye doesn’t have to be Vig. Could be regular scum. I think. Having trouble keeping track of everything. 😂
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1287 on: December 03, 2019, 02:28:26 pm »

I wonder if lalight is lying and they're the last WW and pulling this stunt. It's not unlikely, but I lean toward truth

I mean I lean toward Lalight is telling the truth

If LaLight is what he claims, then Shraeye doesn’t have to be Vig. Could be regular scum. I think. Having trouble keeping track of everything. 😂

We don't have conflicting kill claims though
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1288 on: December 03, 2019, 02:46:08 pm »

If mm gets rbed, that means shraeye and/or Galz will not be.

I also hope Eevee is just an rb and I can join your forces.
Why do you think I'm a roleblocker?

I think you're of Mafia faction and it's the only faction to have an rb

This is incorrect. WW also have RB.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1289 on: December 03, 2019, 03:03:34 pm »

If mm gets rbed, that means shraeye and/or Galz will not be.

I also hope Eevee is just an rb and I can join your forces.
Why do you think I'm a roleblocker?

I think you're of Mafia faction and it's the only faction to have an rb

This is incorrect. WW also have RB.

oh, i missed that for some reason. Well, Eevee might be a Mafia Tracker, and there also can be a WW rb.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1290 on: December 03, 2019, 04:01:13 pm »

How about "there's no rb and Galz is an alien" option?

I had this paranoia earlier in the game. But... I mean on top of everything their doing so far just checking out... it would mean that Galz/Faust/MiX decided to fake a result on Faust during night 1? That is a little too far fetched I think... and I am sitting here thinking through some pretty far fetched ish.

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1291 on: December 03, 2019, 04:02:39 pm »

It's more likely that there is no roleblocker than that there is one. No one's claimed to have been blocked outside of targeting Space.

I'd be totally fine with being investigated at night and lynched tomorrow if Galzria gets a scum or no result, but I'm guessing no one's agreeing.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1292 on: December 03, 2019, 04:04:01 pm »

Vote: Swan

Shraeye or raerae would be my plan b and c.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1293 on: December 03, 2019, 04:11:10 pm »

Problem is, we don't seem to have any way of keeping Galzria alive until tomorrow. With no investigative roles and me inevitably either lynched or vigged, there isn't going to be any new information tomorrow either. I think I'd be in favor of LL using their shot, just because it's a town controlled kill. I don't think we are going to get any new wagon analysis due to the nature of the game - too many factions and we don't even know who we are hunting.

Maybe our best bet is to go for it tonight? You can just lynch me today, I see there is no changing that. After I'm gone, you'll have a decent chance of hitting scum.

Galzria is for sure dying if he's town, so there is no point in shooting him. Eddie seems very likely to be truthful. Mafia is not claiming SK, so I think LL is out of the pool too. The odds of hitting scum are getting to be pretty decent once I'm removed. Scum could of course have a way of protecting themself.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1294 on: December 03, 2019, 04:14:48 pm »

I believe LaLight; and mailmi now too.


We had 4 kills night 1
claimed shooters: Mafia (must be glooble), WW (must be Archetype), me (pps), Bright (sudgy)
LaLight claims a miss on Space

We had 2 kills night 2
claimed shooters: Mafia (??), WW (??), LaLight (e)
I forgot to shoot
--->So one of these is missing, or roleblocked, or shot at Space, or doubled on MiX.  Many permutations
HEY LALIGHT, WHAT FLAVOR OF SK ARE YOU??

We had 4 kills night 3
claimed shooters: Mafia (pubby, presumably), WW (must be EFHW), LaLight (Joseph), me (Didds)


I don't think Aliens (if they are still around) have shot yet.  I don't see an Alien team using that until the endgame.


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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1295 on: December 03, 2019, 04:18:59 pm »

I'm actually a believer of an "all Aliens are dead scenario"

And I believe at least 1 Mafia is around (hoping for 1)

And I believe in 0-1 Werewolves.

Not counting the serial killer, there is 0-1 scum. 

I think mailmi/raerae are 100% good; Galz is 95% good; bright is 90% good.

LaLight is SK

DatSwan/Eevee/Uncle are suspicious.  Out of that crew, Uncle's claim is the most believable.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1296 on: December 03, 2019, 04:21:16 pm »

I agree with shraeye's analysis above. Also I'm not seeing mafia vig on the setup post, could have sworn one was possible. Unless there can be one, isn't shraeye town unless someone can explain the two extra kills some other way?

Also @Swan, what does kingmaker do? Can't find it on mafiascum.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1297 on: December 03, 2019, 04:22:21 pm »

Why is raerae 100% good? Why is mail-mi more certain than Galzria?

I'm most sure of Galzria,he's the only one who has found us scum yet.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1298 on: December 03, 2019, 04:23:50 pm »

Lynch me or Swan, shoot the other at night. Convert LL. In the best case scenario we win N4?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Four)
« Reply #1299 on: December 03, 2019, 04:24:45 pm »

So, yeah, I think Eevee is likely a roleblocker.  If correct, we can lynch Eevee, Mail-mi takes care of LaLight, LaLight shoots DatSwan.

I could shoot at Eddie, but if he's telling the truth I'd rather have a more-people-win scenario.  So I'd probably double down on DatSwan; we either win, or we'll clean up with an Eddie lynch tomorrow?



If Eevee is not the roleblocker, then it's Eddie.  Me and LaLight should both shoot at Eddie and he's definitely going down?

Not sure if this plan blows up in the 5% or 10% cases where Galz or Bright is lying.
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