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[Brightgalrs]

It all works out in the end

And to be clear, we're in the best possible world. If they did actually go the PGO path, then the WW PGO role might have been a consideration, making things a little less "sure".

[Swowl]

It all works out in the end

And to be clear, we're in the best possible world. If they did actually go the PGO path, then the WW PGO role might have been a consideration, making things a little less "sure".

I actually think this makes sense? I am trying to connect all  the dots but this seems to be sound logic.

[Swowl]

I want to work RB Mafia/WW into the equation before I make up my mind though. There are somethings that could work around with the claims.

[Brightgalrs]

I actually think this makes sense? I am trying to connect all  the dots but this seems to be sound logic.

Sleep on it, everyone should read the last few pages and sleep on it. mail-mi, shraeye, you beautiful bastards. I kiss you.

[Swowl]

Sleep on it we should.

Everyone should read Rae and Eddie IMO.

[raerae]

Bright, what is shraeye?

Well I'm putting myself out there by doing this, but:
They'll either claim to be the Town One-Shot PGO or the Town Vigilante. But I'm leaning PGO because it would paint less of a target on their back. Their clean explanation of the extra kill last night is one of the cops tried to investigate them, and were killed in the process.
Picking PGO over Compulsive Childkiller is an extremely dubious decision. And then to top it off, they didn't tell us about it. And to top it off even more, there is a Werewolf version of the role.

I'm prepared to be surprised though.

Why does Uncle get off easy because of Eevees claim?

Eevee is more likely to be scum, really. And I suspect Uncle is the Alien, who might or might not have already used their kill, less worrisome. All depends on how shraeye plays out I guess.

Oh, I see how you could think that.
That was me predicting their claim, not their actual role.
I suspected they were a SK the moment they posted this:

I have a different theory, it's cleaner, you'll hear it when you hear it, it's tied to my claim, which will probably happen this game-day

You had the opportunity to say that and opted not to. Also, why do you think shraeye should have targeted you? As far as I can remember he hasn't suspected you.

[raerae]

Sleep on it we should.

Everyone should read Rae and Eddie IMO.

I targeted Eddie as my love interest, FYI.

[Uncleeurope]

That is, while sweet, possibly the saddest thing I have ever heard.

[shraeye]

You want to tell us what exactly about his claim isn't believable? Other than you never would have done anything he did?

No, it's just because it's like the default Serial Killer claim.
But maybe yeah, even if I was a full Vigilante, I'd claim the moment I shot someone, just like I did in this game. Also I did do something different than them, I shot sudgy on Night 1 while they simply blind-fired. In fact the exact reason I did use my kill was because it wasn't a blind-fire!

@shraeye
Well first, picking Vigilante over Compulsive Child Killer is good. But so is picking a certain scum role over it too.

Here's the only time you commented on my role:

Going to invoke WIFOM on this one. But the thing is she picked one of the pretty terrible roles.

It isn't terrible.  In fact, it can act somewhat as a 1-shot vig...which is the role you thought was ok enough to pick.  So, why is 1-shot vig worth picking while nymphomaniac isn't? ?? ?

Not sure what that says, if anything.

And... there is actually surprisingly little to go on.

As for your claim:

I shot PPS night 1; he was the result of my random lynch generating machine (minus people who discarded scum roles)

But why shoot randomly? It's not like it was a Night start, there was a Day to go on. I picked sudgy because of his bad Miller claim, for instance.

I was going to shoot for Glooble's potential partners on night 2, but also wanted to shoot at MiX and Space. Wanted to reread to see which of those two was more likely Glooble-partner, and forgot to shoot in time.

But why these two? This seems like you are trying to pander to us. Remember, all you would've had to go on was Day 1, there was no faust reveal, and Space didn't even talk that much.

My NK theory was: there have only ever been me, Werewolf, Mafia, Bright (SK) shooting.  All 4 night 1, missing 2 night 2 (I forgot and somebody shot SK-Bright, all 4 night 3.

But I haven't gone back to my drawing board after mail-mi's claim.

But shouldn't you?
If I was Vanillaized on Night 2 by mail-mi, then there's no way I could've killed anyone on last night.
And if you think mail-mi is lying, then surely I'm not a Serial Killer at all, I'd be a WW or Mafia and in his faction. But then you can't point to me to explain last night 4th kill. So it'd be Alien's kill, Werewolf PGO, Parrot, etc.

Also why did you never shoot me?

Son, this doesn't make any effing sense.  There are so many wrong statements/assumptions/interpretations you just made I literally can't handle it right now.

[Uncleeurope]

Regarding me picking Survivor over Mafia, I didn’t want to play this game at all, I got pulled in against my will with the hope that I would be able to play town and just not give a crap about the outcome.

I didn’t have that luxury, but at least this way I don’t disappoint anyone and I am under zero pressure.

I would never choose an evil role over a non-evil role at the place I’m in right now. And I at least got to feel like a spectator who could type.

This way I can win with everyone, which makes me the most social role of all!

[LaLight]

so this all means there should've been 5 kills on N1, huh

I REALLY hope we can get Roleblocker out of the way. Let's hope it's Eevee after all

[Eevee]

@Bright (and LL)
Why do we need to have a roleblocker, what have I missed? I thought Galzria targeted Space the night I did, explaining our no results.

I reread Eddie. I guess both survivors and SK’s play similar, having similar goals and neither having partners. Some thing I noted was Eddie had mentioned the SK multiple times, which usually points toward SK’ness.

I’m sorry my defense hasn’t been great. It’s pretty demoralizing to have no one believe me, and I just don’t know what I could say. I do realize my choice of vote last night was unfortunate and that my claim looks too convenient. Good chance scum is (again) gleefully pushing my lynch here, knowing they can say “hey, couldn’t have known, he was so scummy” tomorrow once I’ve flipped what I claimed.

[raerae]

Regarding me picking Survivor over Mafia, I didn’t want to play this game at all, I got pulled in against my will with the hope that I would be able to play town and just not give a crap about the outcome.

I didn’t have that luxury, but at least this way I don’t disappoint anyone and I am under zero pressure.

I would never choose an evil role over a non-evil role at the place I’m in right now. And I at least got to feel like a spectator who could type.

This way I can win with everyone, which makes me the most social role of all!

I think this feeling has been coming through most of the game.
 You haven't been outright scummy but you haven't seemed involved either and that made me feel good about my choice. I believe you but oh am I going to be bummed if your fooling me.

[LaLight]

Alright, I am gonna bet after all.

[LaLight]

I am the SK.

Mail-mi, welcome. I hope you are what you say you are

[LaLight]

If mm gets rbed, that means shraeye and/or Galz will not be.

I also hope Eevee is just an rb and I can join your forces.

[LaLight]

First night I targeted Space but the kill didn't go off of course.

Second night e, third night Joseph.

[raerae]

First night I targeted Space but the kill didn't go off of course.

Second night e, third night Joseph.

Why them?

[LaLight]

First night I targeted Space but the kill didn't go off of course.

Second night e, third night Joseph.

Why them?

Space was the scummiest for discarding IC - me making this point made this lynch happen

E is generally hard to read as scum, so I just picked someone I really find hard to read

Joseph because I wanted to kill off-wagon so I could hit a scum or so there will be less options for Space's partner and also someone not very likely to be killed by any other party. I actually thought between Joseph and Eevee

[LaLight]

Claiming vt was very stupid. I had other options in my mind, but not verifiable of course. Eh

Thank got there's a psychiatrist

[Eevee]

If mm gets rbed, that means shraeye and/or Galz will not be.

I also hope Eevee is just an rb and I can join your forces.

Why do you think I'm a roleblocker?

[LaLight]

If mm gets rbed, that means shraeye and/or Galz will not be.

I also hope Eevee is just an rb and I can join your forces.

Why do you think I'm a roleblocker?

I think you're of Mafia faction and it's the only faction to have an rb

[LaLight]

Maybe you're a Mafia Tracker and you have another partner, well

[Eevee]

So Eddie probably is what they say they are. Please help town!

Is there any mafia vig role that would fit Bright? If not, also seems they are what they claim, as the killclaim earlier seems probably true.

I think any LL+mail-mi mafia theories are too far-fetched, as the real SK dying would expose them immediately. Leaning on believing mail-mi also.

And if mail-mi is to be believed, there is no point in lynching LL? So, for me, that leaves a lynch pool of shraeye, Galzria, raerae and Swan. Why do we think Swan is town again?

[LaLight]

So Eddie probably is what they say they are. Please help town!

Is there any mafia vig role that would fit Bright? If not, also seems they are what they claim, as the killclaim earlier seems probably true.

I think any LL+mail-mi mafia theories are too far-fetched, as the real SK dying would expose them immediately. Leaning on believing mail-mi also.

And if mail-mi is to be believed, there is no point in lynching LL? So, for me, that leaves a lynch pool of shraeye, Galzria, raerae and Swan. Why do we think Swan is town again?

I actually don't. He was vanillaised probably, so he's probably not an alien. But... yeah

I can kill him tonight