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[Brightgalrs]

I don’t think we should be voting for bright right now. I have reasons to believe that he is town. (I’m not 100% sure, but you know).

Thanks.

[Joseph2302]

Is it not in scum's best interest to fake-claim being vanillized? Like, the vanillizer died, so it's not like anyone can prove/disprove your claim.

And only 2 kills this time, interesting. Presumably one got blocked or multiple killers targetted the same person

Uhh what? We were expecting 1 mafia kill and 1 werewolf kill, no? The aliens presumably already used their kill (and are also probably all dead now), as did the vig.

Did you just accidentally reveal yourself as SK?

I thought aliens had said they didn't use their kill N1?

[Joseph2302]

What was your role before?

He shouldn't claim before, say, Space does.

1. You fishing for my role isn't a pro-town thing to do at this point.

2. The fact you're backing down so easily on pushing Swan is weird.

3. You need to check your pronoun/gender assumptions on more players than just me...

To make the third point clearer, raerae is not a he

[Brightgalrs]

Sorry, but what exactly is the risk of raerae's created-Lover coming forward?

Either the Lover "status" has been washed away, in which case there is no risk to them, or the Lover status remains, in which case there's no additional risk connected with them coming forward. There's no additional risk because if that Lover connection stills exists, then anyone who'd want to kill them (the created-Lover) would just kill raerae. Having Kernel confirm which scenario is correct doesn't change much.

And remember, we are talking about them coming forward and saying "I was targeted by raerae on Night 1 to be their lover", they don't need to roleclaim at all.

[Uncleeurope]

Protective roles would have two people to worry about was my point.

Of course there comes a point where we just have to hope that raerae chose scum.

[Brightgalrs]

Protective roles would have two people to worry about was my point.

Yes that's true.

[raerae]

What makes you think that person knows they were targeted?

[mail-mi]

Would the Town Nymphomaniac’s target know they’ve fallen in love?

PPE: Raerae ninja’d me

[Brightgalrs]

Mod question: if a Lover that was created by the Nymphomaniac gets Vanillaized, do they (the created-Lover) lose their Lover effect?

Mod question: if a Nymphomaniac that used their power to create a Lover gets Vanillaized, do they (Nymphomaniac) lose their Lover effect?

I should also point out that the Nymphomaniac creates a new Lover group when using their power, per the MafiaWiki article linked to in the OP:

The Nymphomaniac, however, creates a separate Lover group when it uses its action on Night 1. It is not part of any pre-existing Lover groups at gamestart.

Although maybe Kernel can confirm this is true as well.

[Brightgalrs]

I'd LOVE to but simply can't.

Just got this. You're alright.

[Brightgalrs]

What makes you think that person knows they were targeted?

This might seem a bit picky, but shouldn't you know that?

The first thing I did when I picked my role, before it was even confirmed if the game's setup would work out, was ask Kernel how my kill works in specific situations. And it was stupid stuff like who would die if I target a PGO, what exactly happens if I get reloaded by the Reloader, and does my kill go through if I die.

"Will my chosen Lover know they have become a Lover?" would have been one of those question if I had picked the Nymphomaniac.

[raerae]

What makes you think that person knows they were targeted?

This might seem a bit picky, but shouldn't you know that?

The first thing I did when I picked my role, before it was even confirmed if the game's setup would work out, was ask Kernel how my kill works in specific situations. And it was stupid stuff like who would die if I target a PGO, what exactly happens if I get reloaded by the Reloader, and does my kill go through if I die.

"Will my chosen Lover know they have become a Lover?" would have been one of those question if I had picked the Nymphomaniac.

Okay, first, I'm not you and I don't play like you so judging me for something you would have done is silly.  With that, you brought it up so it seems like you have some knowledge.  It's fair of me to question that considering, spoilers!, you shouldn't have any additional knowledge about my role.  Second, answering a question with a question is suspect at best.

[Brightgalrs]

Second, answering a question with a question is suspect at best.

My mistake, I thought you were asking with a different emphasis.
Answer: Always the optimist, I'm considering the the best case scenario. It's the best case scenario for you because someone can step forward and vouch for your roleclaim. For me and everyone else here, we can cross off two player from being scum, or else tie them together in our future suspicions.
The "worst" (it's not really bad at all) case scenario is that you're right, the Lover you created doesn't know, and you've claimed a role that can't be verified without going into the next night and we should move back to Space or Swan or whoever.

[raerae]

Second, answering a question with a question is suspect at best.

My mistake, I thought you were asking with a different emphasis.
Answer: Always the optimist, I'm considering the the best case scenario. It's the best case scenario for you because someone can step forward and vouch for your roleclaim. For me and everyone else here, we can cross off two player from being scum, or else tie them together in our future suspicions.
The "worst" (it's not really bad at all) case scenario is that you're right, the Lover you created doesn't know, and you've claimed a role that can't be verified without going into the next night and we should move back to Space or Swan or whoever.

Why would the person I picked be town?

[Brightgalrs]

Why would the person I picked be town?

Are you saying that they might not come forward as we expect them to, leaving you in an awkwardly suspicious position? I dunno, that seems a little unlikely seeing as you could just tell us who you picked as your lover. It would cast a lot of suspicion on them if it came to that.

[raerae]

Why would the person I picked be town?

Are you saying that they might not come forward as we expect them to, leaving you in an awkwardly suspicious position? I dunno, that seems a little unlikely seeing as you could just tell us who you picked as your lover. It would cast a lot of suspicion on them if it came to that.

I kinda feel like you're the only one who thinks I'm suspicious right now but I can't for the life of me figure out exactly why.  You also seem to have a lot of information about my role.  That leads me to believe that the person I picked just might could be your partner and you're trying to clear them so they can claim.  I think I'm cool with this.

Vote: Brightglars

[LaLight]

I can get aboard with this. vote: brightgalrs

[A Drowned Kernel]

Would the Town Nymphomaniac’s target know they’ve fallen in love?

No

Mod question: if a Lover that was created by the Nymphomaniac gets Vanillaized, do they (the created-Lover) lose their Lover effect?

Mod question: if a Nymphomaniac that used their power to create a Lover gets Vanillaized, do they (Nymphomaniac) lose their Lover effect?

Yes and yes

[Brightgalrs]

I kinda feel like you're the only one who thinks I'm suspicious right now but I can't for the life of me figure out exactly why.

But you're Lover could just step forward and all suspicion would evaporate. And if that doesn't happen after a certain amount of time, you could just tell us who you picked.
But really I haven't made up my mind until either of those things happen.

You also seem to have a lot of information about my role.

No, not besides what I've read on the Role PM page and that MafiaWiki article. But we will when Kernel gets back to us.

That leads me to believe that the person I picked just might could be your partner and you're trying to clear them so they can claim.

If you suspect your Lover to be scum, you should say who your Lover is. I hope you at least say who it is before you lynch me.

Would the Town Nymphomaniac’s target know they’ve fallen in love?

No
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Oof. Forget I said anything at all.

[Brightgalrs]

Would the Town Nymphomaniac’s target know they’ve fallen in love?
No

Oof. Forget I said anything at all.

To be clear, my suspicion has evaporated.

[Brightgalrs]

So the only thing that can be concluded from this whole 3+ page discussion is... nothing.
raerae could tell us who their former lover is, but it doesn't really mean anything anymore because she could say anybody and there is nothing to check the claim.

[EFHW]

Catching up

[LaLight]

Catching up

Ok this is weird. I thought you already flipped werewolf and then I realised it was a dream when I saw your post

[mail-mi]

Catching up

Ok this is weird. I thought you already flipped werewolf and then I realised it was a dream when I saw your post

Was it a prophetic dream?

[Uncleeurope]

Catching up

Ok this is weird. I thought you already flipped werewolf and then I realised it was a dream when I saw your post

Was it a prophetic dream?

LL Seer confirmed.