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[raerae]

mail-mi is still the scummiest one around here, but you guys are all a bunch of sheeple. Especially raerae. She just stopped having any opinions of her own ever since shraeye started posting his reads.

Vote: ari

Dude, my reads were posted before his and more or less line up. No need to be rude.

[silverspawn]

You mean DatSwan...?

yes

[silverspawn]

Well, silver just moved waaayyy up my scum list.  So does debatePro.  datSwan is still #1. 

Why? Whatever about what just happened makes you think I'm more likely scum than town? Whatever it is, it's not a useful criterion to determine my alignment.

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Datswan

[shraeye]

Well, silver just moved waaayyy up my scum list.  So does debatePro.  datSwan is still #1. 

Why? Whatever about what just happened makes you think I'm more likely scum than town? Whatever it is, it's not a useful criterion to determine my alignment.

Good point; put Joseph up by DebatePro as possible partners for you and DatSwan.

[shraeye]

All of this is with the caveat: "IF DatSwan is scum..." obviously.  But I think it's true.

Silver comes in, sees a neck-and-neck between DatSwan and ari.  sloppy votes Ari despite a vague "intent to hammer" (in the a.m. hours, I had to double read to see if faust announced intent on DatSwan or intent on ari)....forgets who the other person in the neck-and-neck, so important I better not even check the details first vote...?

[raerae]

Vote: Datswan

Were you intending this as a hammer without posting intent?

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Datswan

Were you intending this as a hammer without posting intent?

FFS I was trying to fake hammer to see if I could get any useful reactions
Which you've spoilt now

[Joseph2302]

Well, silver just moved waaayyy up my scum list.  So does debatePro.  datSwan is still #1. 

Why? Whatever about what just happened makes you think I'm more likely scum than town? Whatever it is, it's not a useful criterion to determine my alignment.

Good point; put Joseph up by DebatePro as possible partners for you and DatSwan.

Don't do that
Debatepro probably is scum, ss maybe

[raerae]

Vote: Datswan

Were you intending this as a hammer without posting intent?

FFS I was trying to fake hammer to see if I could get any useful reactions
Which you've spoilt now

I'll try to read your mind better next time. Frankly, considering all the forgetful voting and the fact that I don't have the biggest town read on you I figured you really did think you were hammering.

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Datswan

Were you intending this as a hammer without posting intent?

FFS I was trying to fake hammer to see if I could get any useful reactions
Which you've spoilt now

I'll try to read your mind better next time. Frankly, considering all the forgetful voting and the fact that I don't have the biggest town read on you I figured you really did think you were hammering.

Nah it's fine. I'm just trying to make something happen. This game is stalling because we have an intent to hammer that is going to happen, but Datswan isn't around to post

[Debatepro]

So DebatePro, haven't seen you around too much since the LaLight/shraeye summary.  What are your thoughts on the recent occurrences?

My Day2 updates?  the great mail-mi debate?  EFHW's info?  votes on DatSwan?

Weird for you to pop in and worry only about what Joseph was saying about you.

I had to change my vote because you said we can't vote for Mail-mi. My initial vote there was a pressure him to get into the game kind of vote, then faust came in and made a case, so I left my vote there, until you said thou shall not vote for MM. There was a vote count request by EFHW and i didn't want to be on mail-me in that vote. If my count was right and i voted for DS, that would have been the hammer. So I also have to announce my intent to hammer and while that is the way I am leaning between ARI and DS... im gun-shy. 

Hypothetical, I hammer and DS is town, how easy is it for scum to make a case against me. I would have voted for MiX and been the hammer on DS. That seems like a bad position for a newb.me to be in when some people are doubting my towniness. If you want me to prove my towniness and the only way to do that is to hammer DS, i'll do it.

Joseph was also on your list of suspects, i found his analysis of me to be narrowed on my first post in day 2, despite what i think was a pretty well thought out and researched defense of my read on rae (#1132), who you've also pegged as town. Some might argue your explicate inclusion of rae on your team happened after that post.

Ari - he's getting a "my daughter who is his age could have made the the same plays" pass for day 1 and 2 sans the "kill yourself comment"

EFHW - seems like a legit town claim, not sure how we know for sure unless DS is lynched (see above why i'm hesitant).

As far as my play, i kind of took my lead from you with your questions to players about there reads on certain players to flush out info and get them on the record, for example:
SS - what are your reads besides debatepro and ari. Don't think we've seen an answer. #1285
Joseph - why did you vote for debate & what do you think about mail-mi, ari, debate, and ss. #1259
Joseph - #1169 which i think is some pretty deft analysis on why joseph's story should be considered suspect.



1215 voted fo

[Debatepro]

1215 voted fo

Ignore-This was just the reference number for my mail-mi vote.

[Debatepro]

Vote: Datswan

Were you intending this as a hammer without posting intent?

FFS I was trying to fake hammer to see if I could get any useful reactions
Which you've spoilt now

I'll try to read your mind better next time. Frankly, considering all the forgetful voting and the fact that I don't have the biggest town read on you I figured you really did think you were hammering.

I’m confused, did Joseph’s vote hammer DS or not? How could it be a fake hammer?

[raerae]

Vote: Datswan

Were you intending this as a hammer without posting intent?

FFS I was trying to fake hammer to see if I could get any useful reactions
Which you've spoilt now

I'll try to read your mind better next time. Frankly, considering all the forgetful voting and the fact that I don't have the biggest town read on you I figured you really did think you were hammering.

I’m confused, did Joseph’s vote hammer DS or not? How could it be a fake hammer?

He was already voting for DS so it only looked like a hammer which I very kindly pointed out ruining any chance of it being useful.

[raerae]

Is anybody who can hammer actually going to be around for EOD?

[Debatepro]

Is anybody who can hammer actually going to be around for EOD?

I’ll be around to hammer, but in and out until about an hour before.

[Joseph2302]

Is anybody who can hammer actually going to be around for EOD?

Faust posted intent to hammer, so I expect they'll be back to hammer at some point

[faust]

If we do not hear from DatSwan, I will hammer 2 hours before the deadline.

[silverspawn]

All of this is with the caveat: "IF DatSwan is scum..." obviously.  But I think it's true.

Silver comes in, sees a neck-and-neck between DatSwan and ari.  sloppy votes Ari despite a vague "intent to hammer" (in the a.m. hours, I had to double read to see if faust announced intent on DatSwan or intent on ari)....forgets who the other person in the neck-and-neck, so important I better not even check the details first vote...?

I admit that it's sloppy. My question is, why do you think it is more likely to come from scum than town?

[silverspawn]

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

[EFHW]

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

Based on what?

[faust]

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

Actually mail-mi already is on ari, ari is at L-1 and in total this is quite the scummy post. Noone else should vote for ari without declaring intent.

[Debatepro]

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

Mail-me voted for ari already bringing to L-1 in #1455 so if I voted for Ari that would be the hammer. Did you mean for this to be so?

I was hoping for more from SS about other players (#1285) in the game in a previous post which he did not get to (#1376).

[Debatepro]

Should have ppe-1.