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Author Topic: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Game Over, Perfect Mafia Victory!)  (Read 297060 times)

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1425 on: February 10, 2019, 09:45:52 pm »

shraeye, you stuck on that DS vote?  I'll put him at L-1 if so.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1426 on: February 10, 2019, 09:55:52 pm »

Still thinking; I believe that EFHW is telling the truth about her information.  EFHW is off the table, UncleEurope is not completely off.

So my candidates are (still ranked, modulo that asterisk)
DatSwan
UncleEurope*
silverspawn
Joseph
DebatePro
Ari

I don't want either of the bottom 2 (though they aren't Officially Off The Table)

*thinking intensifies*
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1427 on: February 10, 2019, 10:21:15 pm »

EFHW what's the reason for #don'tCryUncle?

I happen to know, barring some kind of interference, that he took no actions last night. Since scum can't kill and do actions, I would expect each of them to have done something.

So you're assuming they all have night actions beyond a night kill? Why did you follow Uncle?
I'm a motion detector.  I tried to choose someone unlikely to be otherwise targeted so my result could have a chance to be meaningful. There was no motion around him last night.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1428 on: February 10, 2019, 10:26:21 pm »

The assumption might be overly optimistic, but if 4 or 5 town have prs, for balance it seems like 2 of the scum would. I realize I'm erring on the side of more prs.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1429 on: February 10, 2019, 10:34:31 pm »

I didn't believe you at first but I reread your D1 and Uncle is basically the only one other than MiX that you had more than passing conversation with so I'll put a down payment on that result.  Motion Detector isn't a guaranteed town role though so I'm not 100% buying it.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1430 on: February 10, 2019, 10:36:58 pm »

I didn't believe you at first but I reread your D1 and Uncle is basically the only one other than MiX that you had more than passing conversation with so I'll put a down payment on that result.  Motion Detector isn't a guaranteed town role though so I'm not 100% buying it.
Even if you bought it, he's not IC, just less likely to be scum than a random player.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1431 on: February 10, 2019, 10:38:32 pm »

@silver, who do you suspect other than ari? Sorry if you already said and I missed it.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1432 on: February 10, 2019, 10:40:40 pm »

I didn't believe you at first but I reread your D1 and Uncle is basically the only one other than MiX that you had more than passing conversation with so I'll put a down payment on that result.  Motion Detector isn't a guaranteed town role though so I'm not 100% buying it.
Even if you bought it, he's not IC, just less likely to be scum than a random player.

I was initially ready to throw you in the scumboat with him.  So me buying/selling/shopping says more about how I feel about you than him, I guess.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1433 on: February 10, 2019, 10:51:23 pm »

Okay, I'm probably not going to be around at EOD tomorrow so I'll

vote: DatSwan

now.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1434 on: February 10, 2019, 10:54:39 pm »

I didn't believe you at first but I reread your D1 and Uncle is basically the only one other than MiX that you had more than passing conversation with so I'll put a down payment on that result.  Motion Detector isn't a guaranteed town role though so I'm not 100% buying it.
Even if you bought it, he's not IC, just less likely to be scum than a random player.
Yeah, less likely to be scum; I agree.  Not sure how much less.  I'm worried because I don't know if I have any way to tell that this result is a wrench in the spanner that haunts us for the whole game or a brilliant coincidence that saves two people off this silly-IC's lynch list.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1435 on: February 10, 2019, 10:56:21 pm »


I'm fine with DatSwan lynch.  I think EFHW's information (plus other various thoughts) changes the order of reads to be (scum on top)

DatSwan
silverSpawn
Joseph
UncleEurope
DebatePro
Ari
>>
gap
>>
faust
mailmi
raerae
EFHW

I'm trying to figure out future reads based on that lynch.  If DatSwan is scum, then XXXX.  If DatSwan is towny, then YYYY.  I'm not sure right now.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1436 on: February 10, 2019, 11:00:35 pm »

vote count please
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1437 on: February 10, 2019, 11:14:27 pm »

Vote: Joseph

The justification for his scum read is weak, I don’t find his analysis actively helpful to town.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1438 on: February 10, 2019, 11:19:20 pm »

Which justification?  I feel out of that loop.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1439 on: February 10, 2019, 11:19:33 pm »

Vote: Joseph

The justification for his scum read is weak, I don’t find his analysis actively helpful to town.
Unhelpful and scum are two different things. Do you have a larger scumread on him than DS?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1440 on: February 10, 2019, 11:37:05 pm »

Which justification?  I feel out of that loop.
Ok, found it :)
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1441 on: February 10, 2019, 11:44:28 pm »

So DebatePro, haven't seen you around too much since the LaLight/shraeye summary.  What are your thoughts on the recent occurrences?

My Day2 updates?  the great mail-mi debate?  EFHW's info?  votes on DatSwan?

??


Weird for you to pop in and worry only about what Joseph was saying about you.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1442 on: February 10, 2019, 11:50:30 pm »


I'm fine with DatSwan lynch.  I think EFHW's information (plus other various thoughts) changes the order of reads to be (scum on top)

DatSwan
silverSpawn
Joseph
UncleEurope
DebatePro
Ari
>>
gap
>>
faust
mailmi
raerae
EFHW

I'm trying to figure out future reads based on that lynch.  If DatSwan is scum, then XXXX.  If DatSwan is towny, then YYYY.  I'm not sure right now.

Why is Ari now interesting to you despite past assertions?

Also, possibly just me being stubborn, but I wasn’t kidding when describing me feeling more conflicted regarding DatSwan, (I am getting a lot more frustration from him now that I had been before). I might (I do, I just do) prefer a SS or Joseph kill out of your top picks. I’m a little scared to push you lower than Joseph for obvious reasons but I would really like an Ari kill if that interests you at all today.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1443 on: February 10, 2019, 11:56:57 pm »

Ari is still not interesting to me; he's on the same place on my list as before.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1444 on: February 11, 2019, 12:01:48 am »

The gap is much smaller than I thought then.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1445 on: February 11, 2019, 12:13:01 am »

                                    Vote Count 2.6


DatSwan (5): EFHW, arishipshape, Joseph2302, shraeye, raerae
arishipshape (3): silverspawn, Uncleeurope, DatSwan
mail-mi (1): faust
Debatepro (1): mail-mi
Joseph2302 (1): Debatepro

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Day 2 ends February 11, 2019, 05:00:00 pm
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1446 on: February 11, 2019, 12:46:26 am »

I'll sum up a couple reasons here:

- A lot of my disconnectedness can be explained because I am busy.
- It's hard for me to get into a game that I'm not in from the start.
- I like being scum more than I like being town. If I was scum this game I would be more involved. As it is, I am town, and so i am less inclined to be involved.
I am supposed to buy that you are too busy to be engaged in the game as town, but not busy enough to not be engaged in the game as scum?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1447 on: February 11, 2019, 12:53:17 am »

Vote: Joseph

The justification for his scum read is weak, I don’t find his analysis actively helpful to town.
This vote isn't of much use right now.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1448 on: February 11, 2019, 12:56:18 am »

mail-mi is still the scummiest one around here, but you guys are all a bunch of sheeple. Especially raerae. She just stopped having any opinions of her own ever since shraeye started posting his reads.

Vote: ari
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1449 on: February 11, 2019, 01:02:13 am »

I'll sum up a couple reasons here:

- A lot of my disconnectedness can be explained because I am busy.
- It's hard for me to get into a game that I'm not in from the start.
- I like being scum more than I like being town. If I was scum this game I would be more involved. As it is, I am town, and so i am less inclined to be involved.
I am supposed to buy that you are too busy to be engaged in the game as town, but not busy enough to not be engaged in the game as scum?

I would work harder at being engaged while I'm here, that's what I was getting at.
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