So, there is not too much time left to the deadline, and this is going nowhere, and shraeye does not seem in any big hurry to share his current reads, so let me tell everyone why you should vote for mail-mi.
current reads:
Debatepro - new, null
faust - slight scum rn
mail-mi - the IC that's not dead
silverspawn - is silverspawn, null
Uncleeurope - newbie, willing to give a D1 pass, null otherwise.
DatSwan - slightly scummy
MiX - towny
LaLight - slightly scummy
Joseph2302 - slightly scummy
arishipshape - towny
shraeye - null
EFHW - null-to-scum
raerae - slight scum
First reads list is without townreads. Except for newbies. Which is the set of players scum least wants to mislynch. Anyway this has too many scumreads.
I don't think there is a problem with too many scumreads. On one hand, yes there are only X scum, but on the other, I (nor any other town member) don't know who those scum are. So I have a few people (which is probably more than X) that I think might be scum.
at this point in my reading I'm down for a vote: rae wagon
Any particular reason?
Dunno, I like what everyone else has been saying. It's not strong nor solid by any means. Willing to change for something better.
The vote on raerae turns out to be only sheeping, which as EFHW I think pointed out is in character for scum!mail-mi.
It is also in character for town!mail-mi.
I'll sheep EFHW on that.
vote: lalight
Followed by more sheeping.
See the above
i think I know mail-mi better than sheeping EFHW into voting me
vote: mail-mi
also, old!highschool!mail-mi was very sheepish as town, which got me mislynched several times. New!college!mail-mi tries to be less sheepy and provide more content, but new!college!extremelybusy!mail-mi is using his old ways.
This looks like mail-mi has already thought of a narrative to explain his sheeping, which does not make it look better.
It's not a narrative,
Okay, big one here:
Vote Count 1.11
"What each individual wills is obstructed by everyone else, and what emerges is something that no one willed." — Friedrich Engels
MiX (4): Debatepro, shraeye, arishipshape, raerae
raerae (3): Joseph2302, DatSwan, faust
mail-mi (3): LaLight, silverspawn, MiX
LaLight (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): Uncleeurope
Not Voting (1): mail-mi
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 ends February 01, 2019, 05:00:00 pm. That's in about 6 hours.
This is only hours before the deadline. mail-mi seems definitely lynchable. But, two of the people on him are now confirmed town. Scum seems to be avoiding that wagon.
that is a point I cannot deny, there were some town on my wagon. They were wrong, but they were town.
MiX (4): Debatepro, shraeye, arishipshape, raerae
raerae (3): Joseph2302, DatSwan, faust
mail-mi (3): LaLight, silverspawn, MiX
LaLight (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): Uncleeurope
These are the current wagons, with the exception of EFHW being on me. I don't like MiX or raerae particularly right now, and the only other option is DatSwan who has 1 vote on him and I don't even remember him very much in this game.
hm.
It is a classic scum response to a close-to-deadline wagon on them to be hesitant to hop on the opposing wagons.
At this point in the game I didn't have much info on my side. It's really hard for me to get into a game I'm not in from the beginning. That's always been the case for me. So that's a factor that's in play as well, along with my business. And then there was a wagon on me, and I didn't particularly like at the time the wagons on other players. So I was in bind on who to vote for.
This is then followed by a major reread of MiX that concludes in this:
i'm on MiX's post #251 and I've got to go to class, but my townread on him has significantly diminished due to this more focused reread of him. for now I will vote: MiX and finish my reread later if I can
So his one townread of D1 suddenly flipped conveniently to free him to vote just before the deadline? I don't buy it. mail-mi just tries to mask a self-preservation vote as something else.
It was in part self preservation, yes. However in my reread I did see him a scummier. That was not a lie.
Okay, to D2 now. First thing to note is his insistence to see a Mason claim:
so who is LL's partner?
it would be nice to have an IC
I think that everyone basically already knows it's shraeye, but scum has an incentive to look like they did not consider this at night.
I hadn't considered it at all. I missed the breadcrums, and even though most knew it was shraeye I would have liked to know for certain. However then someone pointed out that the mason would know best when to claim so I stopped.
Also I don't have a scum read on you anymore. You seem like your town self.
Starts townreading raerae when it becomes apparent that the IC does so.
sure did
...and right after I posted that my mom called me in for dinner.
MiX (7): Debatepro, shraeye, raerae, mail-mi, LaLight, EFHW, Faust
EFHW (2): Uncleeurope, MiX
raerae (2): Joseph2302, DatSwan
mail-mi (1): silverspawn
Not Voting (1): Arishipshape
So here's the wagons with all the people I know are town. I don't think it's raerae, so I'm looking for at least 1 scum in {Debatepro, EFHW, faust}. I had a slight scumread on faust during my inital catch up, and I think I'm willing to go back to that. I have a paper to write tonight so I can't go do a detailed reread, but I am going to go read through day 2 again. I would be comfortable lynching/voting for all 3 of them, at this point.
This post is off. He looks at the vote count and concludes that it makes me scummy, but the only reason I was on MiX here was to get a lynch through. mail-mi even demanded that I vote for MiX just before the Day ended...
I didn't demand that you specifically vote for MiX, just that people should to get a lynch through.
Alright so here is a current reads list following my read:
Scum:
faust
Debatepro
ariship
Slight scum:
Datswan
EFHW
Null:
Joseph
Eddie
Slight town:
raerae
silverspawn
Conf!town:
shraeye
mail-mi
As pointed out, this reads list is scummy. First of course any reads list is scummy, but listing all current wagons as scum and then voting for a player who does not have a wagon on them is just very convenient.
any reads list is scummy?! that's new. Again, I wasn't following votes at all, only debate. And the debate seemed to be pointing toward those I had in my scumread list.
Ah, I figured out how to explain myself! Your posts are very reactionary, and it doesn't seem like you have done a lot of really proactive things this game. That's different than the town!faust I remember.
Let's test that theory! Just looking at D2.
you do have a good point sir. I suppose I'm letting a little bit of bias into my reads as well. I'm gonna vote: debatepro for now then.
And when I challenge this, he back away and votes... the other scumread with no wagon.
yep I did that
Vote: mail-mi
You don't want to do that.
And this is off. It is not how town reacts to one of their scumreads voting for them. mail-mi is perfectly well aware of the fact that I am town here.
no i am not. see explanation already given.