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[silverspawn]

I'm wary of sheeping faust this game, because I'm not townreading him. But his case on mail-mi strikes me as really strong. Surprisingly strong particularly given how few posts mail-mi has. I'll hold off on voting until I spend some more time, but for now it's enough to bump him close to ari level of scumminess.

@Swan and Eddie, you posted after it, what's your verdict?

[silverspawn]

@DatSwan: I think your numbers are all 1 too large. Do you base it on something other than the n in the "Reply #n on : ..." in the post header?

[silverspawn]

Vote: Datswan
That "read" of me was a load of fake bullshit trying to pull a case from nothing
Very scummy

Reads like fake outrage to me.

[silverspawn]

- #702 is nonsense. Shraeye outright states I do not want to lynch Rae today.. on day 1. The fact that we know Shraeye is Town now holds no merit to this. Skum DOES NOT outright state this for their partner(s) on Day 1. Bus or push a lynch for town cred - yeah sure, depending on the player... but they do not defend on D1. Especially when 2 of the other wagons flip as town... just makes no sense. Obviously, this is also town cred for Rae if Joseph is skum.

I've seen scum do it D1 before. Obviously that wasn't the case here though

I think scum does this because it's classically towny. Like, the idea is that scum are too shy about their partners to make strong statements, so clever townies have begun to give town points for statements like "I will never vote for X" even if X turns out to be scum. As a response, clever scummies have made such statements in order to get townreads. Which means that I don't think it qualifies as an "obvious" partner interaction.

[Joseph2302]

I also l agree with a lot of what faust said about DatSwan

[Joseph2302]

I also l agree with a lot of what faust said about DatSwan

Mail-mi not DatSwan I mean

[Uncleeurope]

I'm wary of sheeping faust this game, because I'm not townreading him. But his case on mail-mi strikes me as really strong. Surprisingly strong particularly given how few posts mail-mi has. I'll hold off on voting until I spend some more time, but for now it's enough to bump him close to ari level of scumminess.

@Swan and Eddie, you posted after it, what's your verdict?

Mail-mi is scummy, that much I am certain of, and Faust’s case really summarizes why I have that opinion very well.  If anything it made me push Mail-mi up a bit in priority.

In other news: I also might be insane, but I am starting to switch my opinion on DatSwan. He (and Faust, really) have just been speaking exactly my thoughts on certain people today. I think that it would be wise to lynch one of Arishipshape, EFHW, Mail-mi, or Joseph today. Possibly in that order of priority... I think, anyway.

[EFHW]

I'm fine with mail-mi or Joseph. They were already on my shortlist. mail-mi more than Joseph.  Confused by DatSwan saying Joseph is definitely not lazy. I'm in a sticky place wanting to disagree but in process seeming to call names. I'll just say that, in terms of typical level of effort my impression is that he usually just posts off the top of his head. Am I wrong there? Datswan's definitive statement feels off. Not interested in voting ari. Or myself.

[EFHW]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

[shraeye]

Lynch is better than no lynch, everyone here will tell you that

Not me.

[EFHW]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

Or the three of them could be the scumteam.

[mail-mi]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

[EFHW]

@DatSwan: I think your numbers are all 1 too large. Do you base it on something other than the n in the "Reply #n on : ..." in the post header?

Numbers are off by one depending on if you list most recent posts first or not.

[raerae]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

Please don't.

[mail-mi]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

Please don't.

uh ok. But I should not be lynched.

[raerae]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

Please don't.

uh ok. But I should not be lynched.

If you're responding to a specific case then go ahead but just please don't post an enormous diatribe about how town you are. It doesn't convince anybody and only succeeds in cluttering the thread. Peeps be trying to reread and all.

[faust]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

Or the three of them could be the scumteam.

This is a lot of pointless rambling really. Joseph is townie, we have very good lynch candidates right now and there is no need to build up other ones.

[faust]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

Please don't.

uh ok. But I should not be lynched.

If you're responding to a specific case then go ahead but just please don't post an enormous diatribe about how town you are. It doesn't convince anybody and only succeeds in cluttering the thread. Peeps be trying to reread and all.

I disagree. If mail-mi can explain why he is town then I want to hear it.

[EFHW]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

Or the three of them could be the scumteam.

This is a lot of pointless rambling really. Joseph is townie, we have very good lynch candidates right now and there is no need to build up other ones.

This is unnecessarily rude.

[faust]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

Or the three of them could be the scumteam.

This is a lot of pointless rambling really. Joseph is townie, we have very good lynch candidates right now and there is no need to build up other ones.

This is unnecessarily rude.

You're right, sorry. But I don't think theories about third parties or triple scum-team calls are helpful at this stage in the game.

[raerae]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

Please don't.

uh ok. But I should not be lynched.

If you're responding to a specific case then go ahead but just please don't post an enormous diatribe about how town you are. It doesn't convince anybody and only succeeds in cluttering the thread. Peeps be trying to reread and all.

I disagree. If mail-mi can explain why he is town then I want to hear it.

I disagree with your disagreement. I don't think there's anything he could say to convince you your case is wrong. Is there anybody else you'd be willing to lynch today?

[faust]

Give me until after church and I can explain exactly what is going on.

Please don't.

uh ok. But I should not be lynched.

If you're responding to a specific case then go ahead but just please don't post an enormous diatribe about how town you are. It doesn't convince anybody and only succeeds in cluttering the thread. Peeps be trying to reread and all.

I disagree. If mail-mi can explain why he is town then I want to hear it.

I disagree with your disagreement. I don't think there's anything he could say to convince you your case is wrong. Is there anybody else you'd be willing to lynch today?

Yes.

[raerae]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

Or the three of them could be the scumteam.

This is a lot of pointless rambling really. Joseph is townie, we have very good lynch candidates right now and there is no need to build up other ones.

How is Joseph townie?  I didn't see you give any reasons when I scanned through?  Also, I disagree that mail-mi is a good candidate so, yes, there is reason to have another one.

[faust]

Eddie said Joseph feels disconnected, and confusing DatSwan and mail-mi seems like an excellent example.  Often that indicates 3rd faction.

Or the three of them could be the scumteam.

This is a lot of pointless rambling really. Joseph is townie, we have very good lynch candidates right now and there is no need to build up other ones.

How is Joseph townie?  I didn't see you give any reasons when I scanned through?  Also, I disagree that mail-mi is a good candidate so, yes, there is reason to have another one.

There are already candidates other than mail-mi though.

Joseph just feels townie. I didn't give any reasons because I can't. But i know that what DatSwan posted as a case on them is even worse than his pervious case on EFHW.

[faust]

raerae, why do you think mail-mi is a bad lynch choice?