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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #700 on: February 01, 2019, 06:31:48 am »

Well i have changed my mind about preferred lynch based on the last page and a half:

Vote:RaeRae
Interesting choice to change your mind
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #701 on: February 01, 2019, 06:33:21 am »

I. Refuse. To. Vote. For. Raerae. Today.
If raerae is lynched and flips scum, this could be an obvious partner interaction
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #702 on: February 01, 2019, 06:35:43 am »

I. Refuse. To. Vote. For. Raerae. Today.
If raerae is lynched and flips scum, this could be an obvious partner interaction

Why would I be that blatant if we were partners? That doesn’t even make sense to me.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #703 on: February 01, 2019, 06:38:23 am »

LL is mason, so that's one of the big wagons off the table.
And we know that {mail-mi, raerae} aren't LL's mason partner (as LL suggested them as lynch candidates)

I think {raerae, DatSwan, mail-mi} are the 3 I'd prefer for today
None of them seem towny to me (mail-mi would be my least preferred of the 3, as it's mainly for anti-town lurking)

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #704 on: February 01, 2019, 06:38:53 am »

silver, can you explain why you are so opposed to lynching MiX?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #705 on: February 01, 2019, 06:39:33 am »

I. Refuse. To. Vote. For. Raerae. Today.
If raerae is lynched and flips scum, this could be an obvious partner interaction

Why would I be that blatant if we were partners? That doesn’t even make sense to me.
Scum would rather vote town than scum because obviously they don't want their partners dead.
So if you're both scum, you wouldn't want to vote raerae

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #706 on: February 01, 2019, 06:42:26 am »

LL is mason, so that's one of the big wagons off the table.
And we know that {mail-mi, raerae} aren't LL's mason partner (as LL suggested them as lynch candidates)

I think {raerae, DatSwan, mail-mi} are the 3 I'd prefer for today
None of them seem towny to me (mail-mi would be my least preferred of the 3, as it's mainly for anti-town lurking)

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Why do you exclude MiX from this list?

Could be an obvious partner tell if MiX flips scum.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #707 on: February 01, 2019, 06:44:59 am »

Good question. If I get to it I'll reread him (not now though); right now I don't really have a read. Will probably vote him over mix too, though.

Well I would urge you to make your assessment sooner rather than later, just so we can have as much time as possible before it’s killing time.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #708 on: February 01, 2019, 07:07:45 am »

LL is mason, so that's one of the big wagons off the table.
And we know that {mail-mi, raerae} aren't LL's mason partner (as LL suggested them as lynch candidates)

I think {raerae, DatSwan, mail-mi} are the 3 I'd prefer for today
None of them seem towny to me (mail-mi would be my least preferred of the 3, as it's mainly for anti-town lurking)

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Why do you exclude MiX from this list?

Could be an obvious partner tell if MiX flips scum.
I guess I could do MiX but not my top 3 choices.
MiX has contributed a lot and is clearly new to this format, and so I think lots of things that people have called scummy may just be be newbie
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #709 on: February 01, 2019, 07:10:48 am »

LL is mason, so that's one of the big wagons off the table.
And we know that {mail-mi, raerae} aren't LL's mason partner (as LL suggested them as lynch candidates)

I think {raerae, DatSwan, mail-mi} are the 3 I'd prefer for today
None of them seem towny to me (mail-mi would be my least preferred of the 3, as it's mainly for anti-town lurking)

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Why do you exclude MiX from this list?

Could be an obvious partner tell if MiX flips scum.
I guess I could do MiX but not my top 3 choices.
MiX has contributed a lot and is clearly new to this format, and so I think lots of things that people have called scummy may just be be newbie
Do you think he is town?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #710 on: February 01, 2019, 07:25:20 am »

Having reread DatSwan and mail-mi, I don't think DatSwan's scummy anymore; just somewhat null.

I also have a hunch that he's the mason, so vote: mail-mi, you haven't done anything this game other than (re)read and vote, such low effort usually comes from scum, maybe all wagons were on town and you feel like you have nothing to do. In fact, looking at them now, I don't think anyone's scum...

I would still like a shraeye lynch! But...I'll wait for D2 for that, I suppose.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #711 on: February 01, 2019, 07:52:30 am »

Good question. If I get to it I'll reread him (not now though); right now I don't really have a read. Will probably vote him over mix too, though.

Well I would urge you to make your assessment sooner rather than later, just so we can have as much time as possible before it’s killing time.

I'm going to be occupied from about now to about 5 hours from now. At that point it should be doable.

silver, can you explain why you are so opposed to lynching MiX?

I townread him, I don't townread either of rae, mail-mi, or datswan. Well, maybe rae a bit, but not much.

I think the main reason for my read is that he was under so much scrutiny and yet never felt scummy to me. If he was actually scum, I feel like it'd have come through somehow.

It is true that his lynch would be the most informative, given the stance of Joseph right now and how many people were so determined to get it through for so long.

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #712 on: February 01, 2019, 07:54:17 am »

is it an hour till the deadline?!

can we have a vote count please
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #713 on: February 01, 2019, 07:54:25 am »

I think the main reason for my read is that he was under so much scrutiny and yet never felt scummy to me.
So the main reason he's towny is that he is not scummy? Sorry, somehow that fails to convince me.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #714 on: February 01, 2019, 07:55:15 am »

is it an hour till the deadline?!

can we have a vote count please
I thought it's in 9 hours.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #715 on: February 01, 2019, 07:56:04 am »

I am kind of confused by usage of [ time]
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #716 on: February 01, 2019, 07:57:40 am »

I am kind of confused by usage of [ time]
It's not confusing really, it shows the time in your time zone...
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #717 on: February 01, 2019, 07:59:00 am »

LL is mason, so that's one of the big wagons off the table.
And we know that {mail-mi, raerae} aren't LL's mason partner (as LL suggested them as lynch candidates)

I think {raerae, DatSwan, mail-mi} are the 3 I'd prefer for today
None of them seem towny to me (mail-mi would be my least preferred of the 3, as it's mainly for anti-town lurking)

PPE: 1
Why do you exclude MiX from this list?

Could be an obvious partner tell if MiX flips scum.
I guess I could do MiX but not my top 3 choices.
MiX has contributed a lot and is clearly new to this format, and so I think lots of things that people have called scummy may just be be newbie
Do you think he is town?
Null slightly towards town
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #718 on: February 01, 2019, 07:59:07 am »

I am kind of confused by usage of [ time]
It's not confusing really, it shows the time in your time zone...
yeah, it shows 5 pm, which is in an hour in my time zone
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #719 on: February 01, 2019, 07:59:58 am »

I am kind of confused by usage of [ time]
It's not confusing really, it shows the time in your time zone...
Which is actually more confusing when I've spent 5 years using forum time. And so now I don't have to add the 5hrs
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #720 on: February 01, 2019, 08:03:18 am »

I am kind of confused by usage of [ time]
It's not confusing really, it shows the time in your time zone...
yeah, it shows 5 pm, which is in an hour in my time zone
Do forum posts show the proper time for you in the header? If not, you have not set your forum profile to the right offset, which your can change in Profile -> Look and Layout.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #721 on: February 01, 2019, 08:04:18 am »

Anyway, my wouldn't want to lynch list is {Joseph, faust, LL, ariship}
Anyone else I could be persuaded to vote for to push lynch through. But I'm town, LL is likely (and if lying, we can catch him out later), and the other 2 are my top 2 townreads

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #722 on: February 01, 2019, 08:06:14 am »

I am kind of confused by usage of [ time]
It's not confusing really, it shows the time in your time zone...
yeah, it shows 5 pm, which is in an hour in my time zone
Do forum posts show the proper time for you in the header? If not, you have not set your forum profile to the right offset, which your can change in Profile -> Look and Layout.

ah so it shows me forum time. I'll leave it like that, this is actually convenienter
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #723 on: February 01, 2019, 08:06:30 am »

sorry for the fluff
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #724 on: February 01, 2019, 08:08:13 am »

I would not oppose MiX lynch as well, it's just i want to give them a pass
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