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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1175 on: August 02, 2018, 04:59:47 am »

ok then. I have no slightest idea what's going on, but scum wins this one I guess.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1176 on: August 02, 2018, 05:00:33 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1177 on: August 02, 2018, 05:00:42 am »

vote: Hydrad
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1178 on: August 02, 2018, 05:03:23 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?

usually I just claim stuff asap and people see I am town, this is impossible with this role
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1179 on: August 02, 2018, 05:05:04 am »

Can't really work your way out of this one, sorry LaLight.

Robz and I can't be scum together, because the game would be over.

A) I would have my sword, stolen from Mcmc, and there would've been extra kills.

B) 2v2, even with a Spirit, would be endgame - unless I'm wrong and EFHW counts as a person in a 1v1 end game scenario - which would be weird, as there are very clearly 4 alive, not 5. Even if we were scum and you lynched one of us, one of you would then die at night (well, both, because again - sword), thus leaving 1v1 at best for you.

C) I can't be scum solo, because the day Robz told me in our QT that he was a traitor I would've said "Hey great, I'm scum bro!". No scenario where scum!me lets scum!Robz turn himself town.

D) If I can't be scum with Robz (game over already), and I can't be scum solo (see above), then I can't be scum. Plus, also, you know, duh

 

A) I totally forgot about sword. But wait, if you fakeclaim, you can't use the sword and there won't be extrakills.

B) I don't know why you think game would be over, EFHW has her vote.

C) Who knows what you told him? If you're both scum, you're both scum.

A) You're not going to reasonably argue that I've fake claimed flavor at this point. Not to mention your argument would hinge on the item, which clearly belongs to me, that I knew existed on D1, would serve no purpose this game as Mcmc couldn't use it, and no other player has claimed or flipped Samurai.

B) It's very clear why this would be assumed. She's not a living player, and thus can only vote while the game is ongoing. Put another way - assume she's scum - if all other scum are lynched and there are 2 town left, would the game continue? They could still vote each other and she could hammer. No, of course not. That's silly. Dead players are dead. Just because she can vote doesn't make her a factor in this.

C) Again, can't both be scum - the game would be over.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1180 on: August 02, 2018, 05:08:44 am »

Mod Question: if a person puts up disguise and gets lunched, do we see a disguise or his/her actual role?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1181 on: August 02, 2018, 05:09:22 am »

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1182 on: August 02, 2018, 05:10:20 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?

Your result for N1, while correct, was arbitrary. If nobody had claimed to target Robz, you easily could've suggested that scum (Gkrieg here) must've stolen from Robz N1 or targeted him in some fashion (RB, RC, JK, anything).

N3 I'm guessing you stole from Mcmc for two reasons:

A) To get the sword. Definitely the right play here. Don't want that falling into hands that can use it.

B) To safely check whether I commuted without wasting your kill on the possibility that I could/did.
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1183 on: August 02, 2018, 05:11:06 am »

lunched

I'm more of a second breakfast type person.
Dinnered obviously
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1184 on: August 02, 2018, 05:12:05 am »

lunched
Dinnered obviously

I'm more of a second breakfast type person.

And I'm obviously very bad at quoting.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1185 on: August 02, 2018, 05:12:43 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?

Your result for N1, while correct, was arbitrary. If nobody had claimed to target Robz, you easily could've suggested that scum (Gkrieg here) must've stolen from Robz N1 or targeted him in some fashion (RB, RC, JK, anything).

N3 I'm guessing you stole from Mcmc for two reasons:

A) To get the sword. Definitely the right play here. Don't want that falling into hands that can use it.

B) To safely check whether I commuted without wasting your kill on the possibility that I could/did.

question is why nothing was stolen before N3.

Also explain, how all my targets made sense from scum!perspective? I md'ed Robz then Haddock, then mcmc, then faust then Hydrad. Those were my scumreads.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1186 on: August 02, 2018, 05:14:10 am »

ok then. I have no slightest idea what's going on, but scum wins this one I guess.

If that's the case, then that's unfortunate. Although well played. Things will have needed to play out quite well for them though, and I'll be quite excited to see all the post game stuff.
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1187 on: August 02, 2018, 05:15:18 am »

ok then. I have no slightest idea what's going on, but scum wins this one I guess.
Things will have needed to play out quite well for them though

yeah, just people voting for me :/
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1188 on: August 02, 2018, 05:17:16 am »

I mean can you just believe me? Hydrad claimed he has no abilities whatsoever other than 1-shot Bulletproof Item, can this even be the case in RMM?
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« Reply #1189 on: August 02, 2018, 05:17:38 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?

Your result for N1, while correct, was arbitrary. If nobody had claimed to target Robz, you easily could've suggested that scum (Gkrieg here) must've stolen from Robz N1 or targeted him in some fashion (RB, RC, JK, anything).

N3 I'm guessing you stole from Mcmc for two reasons:

A) To get the sword. Definitely the right play here. Don't want that falling into hands that can use it.

B) To safely check whether I commuted without wasting your kill on the possibility that I could/did.

question is why nothing was stolen before N3.

Also explain, how all my targets made sense from scum!perspective? I md'ed Robz then Haddock, then mcmc, then faust then Hydrad. Those were my scumreads.

Robz & Haddock didn't have items. N1, N2. Mcmc had his items stolen. N3. Faust had his items stolen. N4.

Your claimed MD targets match perfectly with potential thievery. And you're never wrong about Motion around said players.
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1190 on: August 02, 2018, 05:17:42 am »

he can be a ninja stealer
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1191 on: August 02, 2018, 05:19:24 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?

Your result for N1, while correct, was arbitrary. If nobody had claimed to target Robz, you easily could've suggested that scum (Gkrieg here) must've stolen from Robz N1 or targeted him in some fashion (RB, RC, JK, anything).

N3 I'm guessing you stole from Mcmc for two reasons:

A) To get the sword. Definitely the right play here. Don't want that falling into hands that can use it.

B) To safely check whether I commuted without wasting your kill on the possibility that I could/did.

question is why nothing was stolen before N3.

Also explain, how all my targets made sense from scum!perspective? I md'ed Robz then Haddock, then mcmc, then faust then Hydrad. Those were my scumreads.

Robz & Haddock didn't have items. N1, N2. Mcmc had his items stolen. N3. Faust had his items stolen. N4.

Your claimed MD targets match perfectly with potential thievery. And you're never wrong about Motion around said players.

Of course I am never wrong, this is my role, mod doesn't lie.

How exactly dumb should I be to claim my own stealing targets if I am the stealer?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1192 on: August 02, 2018, 05:19:34 am »

I mean can you just believe me? Hydrad claimed he has no abilities whatsoever other than 1-shot Bulletproof Item, can this even be the case in RMM?

He's claimed Miller. Not exactly a great defense for him, but still. It's a role.
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1193 on: August 02, 2018, 05:20:10 am »

I mean sometimes I really didn't want to claim my targets because I thought that would put me into the scummy light :/ but i never lied
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1194 on: August 02, 2018, 05:20:45 am »

I mean can you just believe me? Hydrad claimed he has no abilities whatsoever other than 1-shot Bulletproof Item, can this even be the case in RMM?

He's claimed Miller. Not exactly a great defense for him, but still. It's a role.

We don't have a cop.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1195 on: August 02, 2018, 05:21:17 am »

you want to tell me the only usage of his role would be if IDPTG targeted him? Really?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1196 on: August 02, 2018, 05:27:38 am »

no result was also because of anything that can go on in this game. who steals stuff and why on N3? How did my result be exact on N1?

Your result for N1, while correct, was arbitrary. If nobody had claimed to target Robz, you easily could've suggested that scum (Gkrieg here) must've stolen from Robz N1 or targeted him in some fashion (RB, RC, JK, anything).

N3 I'm guessing you stole from Mcmc for two reasons:

A) To get the sword. Definitely the right play here. Don't want that falling into hands that can use it.

B) To safely check whether I commuted without wasting your kill on the possibility that I could/did.

question is why nothing was stolen before N3.

Also explain, how all my targets made sense from scum!perspective? I md'ed Robz then Haddock, then mcmc, then faust then Hydrad. Those were my scumreads.

Robz & Haddock didn't have items. N1, N2. Mcmc had his items stolen. N3. Faust had his items stolen. N4.

Your claimed MD targets match perfectly with potential thievery. And you're never wrong about Motion around said players.

Of course I am never wrong, this is my role, mod doesn't lie.

How exactly dumb should I be to claim my own stealing targets if I am the stealer?

Only kind of. Had you claimed motion elsewhere (or none), you ran the risk of being called out ("Actually, I DID take an action last night" or "That's weird, how can there be motion when nobody targeted said player")

Also, it's hard to really argue those were your scum reads. Look at your voting history through D4:

Hydrad, Mcmc, faust, faust, Gkrieg, faust, Robz, PPS, faust, IDPTG, faust, faust, Gkrieg, faust, Gkrieg

No votes Robz D1, or Haddock D1 or D2. And while you had a single vote on Mcmc D1, it would've been silly to MD him as a scum read D3 when you knew he was IC'ing himself (or not) D4. I mean, why would you target someone to check for motion that you knew was going to be using an item and creating motion? Like, what did you hope to learn here?

Whereas it makes sense that you were stealing the sword...
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1197 on: August 02, 2018, 05:27:51 am »

you want to tell me the only usage of his role would be if IDPTG targeted him? Really?

Swan.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1198 on: August 02, 2018, 05:28:37 am »

I mean sometimes I really didn't want to claim my targets because I thought that would put me into the scummy light :/ but i never lied

I don't believe that you've lied even s single time about your targets, or there being motion.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1199 on: August 02, 2018, 05:43:55 am »

like I don't feel like I'm going to change my mind about lalight. I'm pretty sure I'm voting him no matter what. should I wait or does it really matter.
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