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[schadd]

Vote count 3.1

pingpongsam (2): faust, Ghacob
faust (1): Cuzz
LaLight (1): The_Wine_Merchant

not voting (5): Robz888, mcmcsalot, pingpongsam, iguanaiguana, LaLight

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 2 starts ends friday, march 9th at 03:00 forum time.

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[The_Wine_Merchant]

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[schadd]

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[The_Wine_Merchant]

Day 1 End of Day

SirClemens (7): faust, DatSwan, Cuzz, LaLight, iguanaiguana, The_Wine_Merchant, Galzria
Galzria (2): pingpongsam, SirClemens
SpaceAnemone (2): mcmcsalot, Robz888
LaLight (1): Teproc
Robz888 (1): SpaceAnemone

Other vote counts:

Cuzz (2): DatSwan, The_Wine_Merchant
Galzria (4): pingpongsam, Teproc, faust, SirClemens
pingpongsam (2): mcmcsalot, Robz888
Robz888 (1): SpaceAnemone
SpaceAnemone (1): LaLight
Sir Clemons (1): Cuzz
LaLight (1): iguanaiguana

not voting (1): Galzria


Galzria (4): pingpongsam, SirClemens, The_Wine_Merchant, Teproc
pingpongsam (2): mcmcsalot, Robz888
Robz888 (1): SpaceAnemone
Sir Clemons (3): Cuzz, faust, DatSwan
LaLight (1): iguanaiguana
Teproc (1): LaLight

not voting (1): Galzria


Galzria (3): pingpongsam, The_Wine_Merchant, SirClemens
Robz (1): SpaceAnemone
Sir Clemons (2): faust, DatSwan
LaLight (3): iguanaiguana, Cuzz, Teproc
Teproc (1): LaLight
SpaceAnemone (2): mcmcsalot, Robz888

not voting (1): Galzria

Day 2 End of Day:

DatSwan (6): The_Wine_Merchant, Robz888, Cuzz, LaLight, pingpongsam, mcmcsalot
LaLight (3): iguanaiguana, faust, DatSwan
Robz888 (1): SpaceAnemone

not voting (1): Ghacob

Other vote counts

faust (4): LaLight, pingpongsam, The_Wine_Merchant, iguanaiguana
Cuzz (1): DatSwan
The_Wine_Merchant (1): faust

not voting (5): Robz888, mcmcsalot, Teproc, Cuzz, SpaceAnemone


The_Wine_Merchant (4): faust, SpaceAnemone, iguanaiguana, Cuzz
faust (3): LaLight, pingpongsam, The_Wine_Merchant
iguanaiguana (1): DatSwan

not voting (3): Robz888, mcmcsalot, Teproc


faust (3): LaLight, pingpongsam, The_Wine_Merchant
The_Wine_Merchant (2): SpaceAnemone, Cuzz
iguanaiguana (1): DatSwan
pingpongsam (1): faust
LaLight (1): iguanaiguana

not voting (3): Robz888, mcmcsalot, Teproc

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Posting the above to shed some information. I am not super great at drawing info out of these things, but maybe others will. I want to find Lalight and Cuzz suspicious for being on both wagons, but can't really given that I am as well. Well I can, but understand that others might find me as well, which is fine, but have to understand it isn't indicative of being scum unless the scum team is LaLight/Cuzz/TWM.

Something I just thought of as I was going through the vote counts was how absent mcmc has been. I feel like that is a scum trait from him. Being super active early and then basically disappearing later. I fee like that is what he did in my first game where I was scum with him.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Or maybe not. Looking at the game, M91, and searching for him doesn't really reveal what I had remembered.

[iguanaiguana]

Hate to beat a dead horse, but ALL is definitely scummy for being on both wagons, and being an alternative wagon D2 that didn't get any real traction. I know I haven't argued for my scum read on him very eloquently,  and I believe that is why not all town have been convinced and scum doesn't feel pressured to bus. 

But today the evidence should be stronger than ever.

[Ghacob]

Hate to beat a dead horse, but ALL LaLight is definitely scummy for being on both wagons, and being an alternative wagon D2 that didn't get any real traction. I know I haven't argued for my scum read on him very eloquently,  and I believe that is why not all town have been convinced and scum doesn't feel pressured to bus. 

But today the evidence should be stronger than ever.

For clarity because it definitely took me far longer than I would have liked to figure out who you meant

[iguanaiguana]

Yeah sorry my phone tends to autocorrect LL to ALL :/

[iguanaiguana]

The vote counts and my memory make PPS and LL look scummiest. The kills seem to indicate that scum has a way to find PRs.

I want to know if Faust still thinks that TAM is scummy.

Gonna go with PPS. I think we get better information from his flip than from LL flip. I am totally totally ok with going for LL too though.  There's 3 scum out there,  super unlikely both of them are town.

Vote: PPS

[faust]

Posting the above to shed some information. I am not super great at drawing info out of these things, but maybe others will. I want to find Lalight and Cuzz suspicious for being on both wagons, but can't really given that I am as well. Well I can, but understand that others might find me as well, which is fine, but have to understand it isn't indicative of being scum unless the scum team is LaLight/Cuzz/TWM.

Something I just thought of as I was going through the vote counts was how absent mcmc has been. I feel like that is a scum trait from him. Being super active early and then basically disappearing later. I fee like that is what he did in my first game where I was scum with him.

If you want others to draw info from this, maybe don't try to influence them by coloring yourself green.

[faust]

I want to know if Faust still thinks that TAM is scummy.

I didn't by the end of D1, but I feel like I have to reevaluate.

[faust]

It's in VLA, but I thought I should mention here as well that I'll be on a conference until Wednesday and won't have much, if any, time to post then.

[pingpongsam]

Nobody finds it odd that the one mostly claimed PR is pressured to full claim and has the wagon while the other claimants remain silent with no pressure and no votes?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Posting the above to shed some information. I am not super great at drawing info out of these things, but maybe others will. I want to find Lalight and Cuzz suspicious for being on both wagons, but can't really given that I am as well. Well I can, but understand that others might find me as well, which is fine, but have to understand it isn't indicative of being scum unless the scum team is LaLight/Cuzz/TWM.

Something I just thought of as I was going through the vote counts was how absent mcmc has been. I feel like that is a scum trait from him. Being super active early and then basically disappearing later. I fee like that is what he did in my first game where I was scum with him.

If you want others to draw info from this, maybe don't try to influence them by coloring yourself green.

I colored myself lime green for that exact reason. I want to use it for my own purposes first and foremost.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Nobody finds it odd that the one mostly claimed PR is pressured to full claim and has the wagon while the other claimants remain silent with no pressure and no votes?

I have been advocating for a mass claim. And we haven't been as suspicious as you. That is how voting works.

[mcmcsalot]

vote: lalight

[pingpongsam]

Nobody finds it odd that the one mostly claimed PR is pressured to full claim and has the wagon while the other claimants remain silent with no pressure and no votes?

I have been advocating for a mass claim. And we haven't been as suspicious as you. That is how voting works.

This is BS because if you were really about claiming you have done so yourself. In fact, you specifically stated that I should full claim even though my role power is known which strongly suggests to me that you simply want to what degree of threat I remain to you and your team.

[pingpongsam]

*want to know...

[LaLight]

I agree with massclaim. I know votes on me are because of my lack of presence and sincerely apologize about it. My opinion on pps is simple: either he killed Space to confirm his PR and this is too scummy or Space was killed to frame pps' actions scummy. Not sure what to think about it. I still scumread faust, but can't point a finger onto any particular actions of his. I think II is town, all the others behave like scum

[LaLight]

vote: faust

[LaLight]

if you want to lynch me, well, fine, but let's massclaim first. Or, as it has been said, we will face LyLo tomorrow with no trust into any claim

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Nobody finds it odd that the one mostly claimed PR is pressured to full claim and has the wagon while the other claimants remain silent with no pressure and no votes?

I have been advocating for a mass claim. And we haven't been as suspicious as you. That is how voting works.

This is BS because if you were really about claiming you have done so yourself. In fact, you specifically stated that I should full claim even though my role power is known which strongly suggests to me that you simply want to what degree of threat I remain to you and your team.

Then vote for me, if you think I am scum.

[Ghacob]

We should definitely massclaim before our lynch today. All the hidden information from scum in the world won't help us if it's lylo tomorrow

Nobody finds it odd that the one mostly claimed PR is pressured to full claim and has the wagon while the other claimants remain silent with no pressure and no votes?

That is very odd. I'd like to discuss this after claims happen

I'm still not swayed by the idea that simply VT/PR claims won't help out immensely

[The_Wine_Merchant]

We should definitely massclaim before our lynch today. All the hidden information from scum in the world won't help us if it's lylo tomorrow

Nobody finds it odd that the one mostly claimed PR is pressured to full claim and has the wagon while the other claimants remain silent with no pressure and no votes?

That is very odd. I'd like to discuss this after claims happen

I'm still not swayed by the idea that simply VT/PR claims won't help out immensely

I personally think you are the most townie in the game and would be fine with you organizing claim order. But I imagine you will receive headstrong opposition from faust that may prevent it from being followed though.