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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1000 on: February 27, 2018, 12:57:22 am »

Unlynchable equals scum, though...
DatSwan is unlynchable because he hasn't been lynched 1 hour after you put him to L-1?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1001 on: February 27, 2018, 12:58:22 am »

I would love to get some more input from Ghacob before this day is over.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1002 on: February 27, 2018, 02:04:37 am »

F's LaLight pushed Galz and Clem. The case is obvious .

I never pushed Galz. Also your tunneling is weird
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1003 on: February 27, 2018, 07:11:05 am »

Unlynchable equals scum, though...
DatSwan is unlynchable because he hasn't been lynched 1 hour after you put him to L-1?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1004 on: February 27, 2018, 07:13:41 am »

Unlynchable equals scum, though...
DatSwan is unlynchable because he hasn't been lynched 1 hour after you put him to L-1?

No, I’m saying not to worry about the L-1 because it won’t go through because he is scum. It’s been many hours now. I am hopeful the deadline will make the lynch happen so we actually get scum. Whether or not ther is bussing to get it will be the real question. Make no mistake, I’d much rather lynch you but I feel pretty good about you and swan being partners. Granted, it may be all confirmation bias but I’ve yet to see anything to dissuade me from the idea.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1005 on: February 27, 2018, 07:42:31 am »

Unlynchable equals scum, though...
DatSwan is unlynchable because he hasn't been lynched 1 hour after you put him to L-1?

No, I’m saying not to worry about the L-1 because it won’t go through because he is scum. It’s been many hours now. I am hopeful the deadline will make the lynch happen so we actually get scum. Whether or not ther is bussing to get it will be the real question. Make no mistake, I’d much rather lynch you but I feel pretty good about you and swan being partners. Granted, it may be all confirmation bias but I’ve yet to see anything to dissuade me from the idea.
Is this meant to be satire?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1006 on: February 27, 2018, 09:59:46 am »

Whatever, I am a fan of this from a Town perspective. We should know who we are willing to put up for lynch and not. Here is my list:

Happy to Lynch:
1) pingpongsam
2) Teproc
3) iguanaiguana
4) Cuzz

Will lynch if needed:
1) Robz
2) MCMC
3) TWM
4) Faust

Don't Want to Lynch:
1) LaLight
2) Space
3) Swan - Including myself to make sure not to confuse anyone.

So I have learned over time posts like this definitely help scum more than town but I frequently do it as town and not as scum. I think its a town thought "lets get our collective ideas out in plain view" and a scum benefit "who's town that people are willing to lynch".
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1007 on: February 27, 2018, 09:59:53 am »

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1008 on: February 27, 2018, 10:00:03 am »

What's the vote count?

I grudgingly accept that it's probably not a good idea to lynch PPS today. After all maybe he can investigate again. Or else scum kills him and we don't have to worry.

Vote: LaLight

First scum read of faust for the game. I am just noticing faust has been somewhaty pushing pps which I was all for lynching yesterday but yea with the claim we probably shouldn't and this seems like "crap my partner datswan is getting heat and my pps case is going nowhere, mcmc isn't helping me with it lets pivot to lurky/scummy lalight"
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1009 on: February 27, 2018, 10:16:22 am »

My intention is to vote datswan before deadline but I still have a lalight/twm/datswan reread to do plus midway through a faust reread.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1010 on: February 27, 2018, 04:27:33 pm »

FWIW I may be coming back around to the DatSwan case. Def better than no lynch. I am glad I tried for an alternative wagon though. It gives us something to assess after today ends.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1011 on: February 27, 2018, 06:23:48 pm »

I would love to get some more input from Ghacob before this day is over.

Yeah, I  feel like there's a lot more stuff they should be covering, especially because their last-but-one post specifically said they had more thoughts that hadn't made it onto that post.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1012 on: February 27, 2018, 06:23:59 pm »

Datswan is dat scum.

Faust is dat other scum.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1013 on: February 27, 2018, 06:28:52 pm »

I'm going to be around off an on for the next ~hour, then I'm asleep till after deadline.

I could hammer DS to avoid a no-lynch, but mcmc has already posted intent, and wanted more time for re-reads, so that might be unhelpful. Is anyone else around just now?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1014 on: February 27, 2018, 06:31:29 pm »

I am!
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1015 on: February 27, 2018, 07:08:05 pm »

I am!

Well you're the leader of the Swan wagon, and have already stated that you don't really see other options, even Cuzz, who you seemed keen on earlier. Did I ever ask specifically what your position on Robz is, just for reference?

Also, what's your feeling about general discussion of who people might want to target with all those PRs that seem to be out there? ISTR you're usually strongly in favour of of leaving that to the individual, but do you feel there might be any merit in avoiding having people target the same obvious people?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1016 on: February 27, 2018, 07:19:32 pm »

I am!

Well you're the leader of the Swan wagon, and have already stated that you don't really see other options, even Cuzz, who you seemed keen on earlier. Did I ever ask specifically what your position on Robz is, just for reference?

Also, what's your feeling about general discussion of who people might want to target with all those PRs that seem to be out there? ISTR you're usually strongly in favour of of leaving that to the individual, but do you feel there might be any merit in avoiding having people target the same obvious people?

I mean feel free to share.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1017 on: February 27, 2018, 07:21:14 pm »

I am!

Well you're the leader of the Swan wagon, and have already stated that you don't really see other options, even Cuzz, who you seemed keen on earlier. Did I ever ask specifically what your position on Robz is, just for reference?
It isn't so much that I don't see other options as that I haven't seen good arguments or reasons for other options. There has just been a "what about X" without anything supporting a move in that direction. I am not going to move from what I think is a decent to good vote to one that is based off nothing more than questionable "gut reads."

Robz falls into that category. Those proposing him haven't offered any really good reason to go for him, but he hasn't done anything to stand out as extremely townie either.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1018 on: February 27, 2018, 07:23:15 pm »

Also, what's your feeling about general discussion of who people might want to target with all those PRs that seem to be out there? ISTR you're usually strongly in favour of of leaving that to the individual, but do you feel there might be any merit in avoiding having people target the same obvious people?
To answer this, i am very much in favor of town PRs reacting and deciding for themselves. If that means PPS or iguana (whatever his role is) want to solicit advice they are free to do so and if they think that is best then they should do so.

Personally I am not soliciting any advice and any given will be promptly dismissed by me unless there is a strong compelling argument associated with it. Even then I am not likely to publicly state that I would be following said advice.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1019 on: February 27, 2018, 08:46:50 pm »

Datswan is dat scum.

Faust is dat other scum.

What if your wrong about me. Does that effect your Faust read?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1020 on: February 27, 2018, 09:01:03 pm »

Here didn’t get to the reread. Not happy about the inactivity after my intent to hammer. Scum should have made more of a scramble.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1021 on: February 27, 2018, 09:02:40 pm »

Datswan Case

This is a really good case.

I would like to point out the reasons for the list is to
1) help town coordinate
2) make it easy on town to look back on wagon analysis

Unfortunately on this look, people are choosing to look at it through bias goggles so the only thing people are noticing are my actions and what they mean. I would suggest, since if i flip i will flip town, and your gonna have to do it anyways... read these “good cases” on me under the assumption i am town. Spoiler: they make more sense from that perspective :P
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1022 on: February 27, 2018, 09:03:09 pm »

Here didn’t get to the reread. Not happy about the inactivity after my intent to hammer. Scum should have made more of a scramble.

Hm what could that mean about the people that are currently on me?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1023 on: February 27, 2018, 09:33:54 pm »

IDK I hope he's scum but I still feel better about LaLight so I'm not gonna touch this.

If DatSwan is town and I die, yall should lynch LL tomorrow.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1024 on: February 27, 2018, 09:34:25 pm »

DatSwan what's your read on the game state?
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