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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #775 on: February 22, 2018, 11:45:03 am »

I don't think I have anything to day though!
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #776 on: February 22, 2018, 02:13:28 pm »

I don't think I have anything to day though!

what does this mean?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #777 on: February 22, 2018, 03:50:31 pm »

Day = say.

I thought all the TWM soft claim stuff was interesting but now that he clarified I don't have anything to say about it.

TWM is maybe a bad lynch today though. His frustration is his town meta, and if he's town he is a PR.

Hmmmm.

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #778 on: February 22, 2018, 04:52:37 pm »

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #779 on: February 22, 2018, 04:52:49 pm »

Also DAMA for like 8 minutes.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #780 on: February 22, 2018, 04:56:20 pm »

Going out to dinner so also not catching up tonight.  Tomorrow morning?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #781 on: February 22, 2018, 04:56:56 pm »

Going out to dinner so also not catching up tonight.  Tomorrow morning?
Better make that an exclamation mark!
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #782 on: February 22, 2018, 04:58:37 pm »

I just realized that it's kinda funny me posting a dama in the same thread where I made fun of Drynuary stuff.

In my defense, the wine was for free.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #783 on: February 22, 2018, 05:00:08 pm »

@Dat What Muck doth I Kick Up?

muck = day 1 claim thing bit you did.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #784 on: February 22, 2018, 05:00:28 pm »

I just realized that it's kinda funny me posting a dama in the same thread where I made fun of Drynuary stuff.

In my defense, the wine was for free.

lolz.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #785 on: February 22, 2018, 05:01:52 pm »

Also DAMA for like 8 minutes.

faust are you scum? be honest
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #786 on: February 22, 2018, 05:06:52 pm »

Tell the truth, Faust.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #787 on: February 22, 2018, 05:07:47 pm »

@Dat What Muck doth I Kick Up?

muck = day 1 claim thing bit you did.

I don't think that really made any muck. I thought it was really productive and kick started the day.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #788 on: February 22, 2018, 05:24:09 pm »

@Dat What Muck doth I Kick Up?

muck = day 1 claim thing bit you did.

I don't think that really made any muck. I thought it was really productive and kick started the day.

Different defns of "muck" I think. You kicking up "the muck" started the day off with a jolt, but still.. you know.. muck.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #789 on: February 22, 2018, 06:33:26 pm »

It would super cool if Robz, mcmc, and Teproc would weigh in.

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #790 on: February 22, 2018, 06:34:29 pm »

Also DAMA for like 8 minutes.

faust are you scum? be honest
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #791 on: February 22, 2018, 06:55:36 pm »

Tonight's homework for myself was a Teproc re-read. Only 26 game posts so far, so it wasn't too taxing, but it also wasn't very conclusive. My reason for wanting to target him was that along with TWM, he was in scummy-looking places on the Galz wagon, given that we also know SirClemems flipped town.

He seems pretty measured in his posts. He manages to have both me and the mcrobz brothers as his big townreads, which is weird given how they were pushing for my lynch, though it's also true he was working to point out that this is just town!me as usual. He's not done a lot yet in D2. I'm not sure what to make of his pushing at PPS. On the one hand, PPS was being unnecessarily oblique about his PR info, but on the other, it's usually good practise not to be too overt about questioning PRs.

I'll save some more vague stuff for another post.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #792 on: February 22, 2018, 07:03:29 pm »

but on the other, it's usually good practise not to be too overt about questioning PRs.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #793 on: February 22, 2018, 07:26:25 pm »

Okay, so vague stuff that some people are going to hate because it's based on conclusions you can only draw by conditioning on knowing I'm town.

Anyway, this game's D1 wagons/vote patterns actually look a little unusual, in that we already have enough green spread out across wagons, and with wagons on the greens, to narrow down the possibilities for a scum bus quite considerably. By this I mean that colouring only me, SirClemens and Galz green and leaving everyone else uncoloured gives quite a more-limited-than-usual range of uncoloured-on-uncoloured voting.

Now, not all scums or scumteams like to bus, but it would be really unusual not to have seen any bussing at all over D1, so there are already quite interesting conclusions to draw there. Lots of possibilities involving LL (like LL-Teproc), and also some Cuzz-Swan stuff. True, there's nothing concrete that we can draw from it yet, but nor can scum retroactively fix up their voting patterns, so I think it's safe enough to mention. It'll be interesting to come back to it when a few more names can be coloured in, at the very least.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #794 on: February 22, 2018, 07:28:20 pm »

but on the other, it's usually good practise not to be too overt about questioning PRs.
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Hmm.. "good practice", really. It's late and I've not been getting enough sleep recently :-(
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #795 on: February 22, 2018, 07:39:10 pm »

Good point,  let's give lynching LaLight another go!

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #796 on: February 22, 2018, 07:40:12 pm »

but on the other, it's usually good practise not to be too overt about questioning PRs.
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Hmm.. "good practice", really. It's late and I've not been getting enough sleep recently :-(
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #797 on: February 22, 2018, 11:18:35 pm »

OK so...

II opens with his long division thing. Whatever, take my opinion out of it for the time being. Something I cannot argue with about it is that it did do a good job of creating actual conversation during the early RVS part of the game. In the end it is generally accepted to "believe" II claim and focus on the info gathered from it instead.

Looking for input on two thoughts here:

1) II does this claim and then is "viewed as town" by majority. Does this make it in anyone's opinion more likely that Skum players would use this tactic because of the herd's original reaction to a claim? Or less likely because it would be suspicious?

2) Is it more likely for Skum to push at the claimers for more information because they want the PR info, or is it more likely that Town is pushing at them to verify they are not Skum (trying to pull a #1)?


My lack of experience in the game is actually leaving me hanging on this one. So, if anyone has an opinion please speak up :)

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #798 on: February 23, 2018, 05:21:50 am »

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #799 on: February 23, 2018, 05:30:38 am »

Looking for input on two thoughts here:

1) II does this claim and then is "viewed as town" by majority. Does this make it in anyone's opinion more likely that Skum players would use this tactic because of the herd's original reaction to a claim? Or less likely because it would be suspicious?

2) Is it more likely for Skum to push at the claimers for more information because they want the PR info, or is it more likely that Town is pushing at them to verify they are not Skum (trying to pull a #1)?

1. I'm not exactly sure what you are asking here. The main thing for scum to do it is, they have to think about it. A lot of the time scum N0 talk just amounts to "hi, I have this and that power, nice to meet you" and they don't really have any sort of plan going into D1. There are players that would be more likely to think about it, but a random scumteam has only a small chance of cooking up a plan like this, whereas for town it is way more natural. Another note is that iguana fakeclaimed on D1 as scum recently, as has been pointed out, and that might make him not want to do it again.

2. It really depends on the personality, but in general I think scum is less likely to push for info.
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