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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #575 on: February 14, 2018, 01:31:55 pm »

So theorel schadd and IDPTG were the only people off wagon.
And the first two of those are flipped town. Makes me think IDPTG is kind of towny for that too
His situation was slightly different but do you have a point I guess
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #576 on: February 14, 2018, 02:02:20 pm »

Well I feel a little obligated to lynch silverspawn here.

Why?

Schadd's argument that Space was signaling an intention to weak doc silverspawn, which killed Space.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #577 on: February 14, 2018, 02:09:37 pm »

Well I feel a little obligated to lynch silverspawn here.

Why?

Schadd's argument that Space was signaling an intention to weak doc silverspawn, which killed Space.

I am contradicting the entirety of my D1 attacks here, but just so it could be said... also he could of been Mime Miller.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #578 on: February 14, 2018, 02:09:54 pm »

Well I feel a little obligated to lynch silverspawn here.

Why?

Schadd's argument that Space was signaling an intention to weak doc silverspawn, which killed Space.

I am contradicting the entirety of my D1 attacks here, but just so it could be said... also he could of been Mime Miller.

*could be*
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #579 on: February 14, 2018, 02:13:44 pm »

Yes, that's a valid concern.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #580 on: February 14, 2018, 02:14:24 pm »

So maybe we shouldn't lynch him, but a town vig should definitely shoot him.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #581 on: February 14, 2018, 02:24:49 pm »

So maybe we shouldn't lynch him, but a town vig should definitely shoot him.

I think he actually could be the town vig to the same point lol
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #582 on: February 14, 2018, 02:37:40 pm »

So maybe we shouldn't lynch him, but a town vig should definitely shoot him.

I think he actually could be the town vig to the same point lol

What?
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #583 on: February 14, 2018, 03:02:53 pm »

So maybe we shouldn't lynch him, but a town vig should definitely shoot him.

I think he actually could be the town vig to the same point lol

What?

weak doc targets vig is another wd death if I remember correctly
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #584 on: February 14, 2018, 03:04:06 pm »

yeah - quote from setup:

"- the Weak Doctor dies when targeting a Mafia-aligned player or the 1-shot Vigilante. Their target is still protected in this case.
- the Mime Miller investigates as Mafia to the Odd-Night Mafia Cop, and will kill the Weak Doctor if targeted. Mimes may decide during N0 which of them should be the Miller."
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #585 on: February 14, 2018, 03:11:01 pm »

yeah - quote from setup:

"- the Weak Doctor dies when targeting a Mafia-aligned player or the 1-shot Vigilante. Their target is still protected in this case.
- the Mime Miller investigates as Mafia to the Odd-Night Mafia Cop, and will kill the Weak Doctor if targeted. Mimes may decide during N0 which of them should be the Miller."

Right. Of course.

Some kind of massclaim probably isn't totally insane at this point.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #586 on: February 14, 2018, 03:17:37 pm »

What do we really expect to get out of the mass claim? If there's a counterclaim, we won't know whether that's a mime trying to get lynched or mafia trying to look like a mime.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #587 on: February 14, 2018, 04:37:30 pm »

This is me attempting to narrow down the lynch field. Turns out is was a waste of time, because the two people I wanted to lynch anyways ended up being the two I came to at the end:

Day 1:
Day 1 Final Vote Count

theorel (4): Roadrunner7671, Awaclus, silverspawn, The_Wine_Merchant
SpaceAnemone (1): IDontPlayThisGame
Lekkit (7): schadd, SpaceAnemone, Robz888, theorel, Joseph2302, DatSwan, Lekkit

Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

OK so following the original logic, it would be unlikely that Mafia is on Lekkit at this point imo. 2 clear wagons. Everyone was in essential agreement by this point that Therol either had to be town or Mafia... obviously if you ARE Mafia at this time the only thing you are concerned with is not lynching a mime, so I assume not on Lekkit.
So on the Lekkit list are (3) VTs, (1) WD, (2) UNK, and himself. The 2 UNK are Robz and Joseph.
And on the Theorel list there are (1) Mafia, (1) Redacted, and (2) UNK. The 2 UNK are SS and Awaclus.
The only remaining player left is IDPTG who is rando camping on Space (confirmed town).

My thoughts at this point in the game here are:
Mime Candidates = Robz and Joseph
Mafia Candidates = SS and Awaclus


Then of course N1 is no death and we can sit around and try to deduce that out but with no info its not worth the possibility list.

Then there is how D2 ended:
Day 2 Final Vote Count

The_Wine_Merchant (3): theorel, Joseph2302, SpaceAnemone
DatSwan (3): schadd, Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant
silverspawn (2): Awaclus, DatSwan
Awaclus (1): silverspawn
No Lynch (1): IDontPlayThisGame
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Roadrunner7671

Not Voting (0)

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

TWM had (2) Town and (1) UNK.
Swan had (1) UNK, (1) Mafia, (1) Town.


- that it makes Joseph look like not Mafia because why would he hang his only partner out to dry.
- makes Robz either a lucky placed Mime or skummy-ish
- And then most interestingly there is this, which I did not think of before.
I am on SS. TWM claims "oh well I guess I HAVE TO switch to Swan for self prez". This is like.. way off. He switches to me to tie it and then I switch to him to make it 4-3. This obviously isn't how it happened but given his speech during twilight I think it is quite clear he knew. Here is the thing... HE COULD OF VOTED FOR SS and been in literally the exact same situation. Did he find me more skummy then SS? Maybe, maybe that is why he did it... but also there is that other reason. Just wanted to throw that one out there.

Regardless, at the end of the day based on what we know now our "perspective mimes" from D1 pretty much sit the same (Robz and Joseph) with a slight skummy lean on robz and towny lean on Joseph. And it makes our Mafia D1 candidates (SS and Awaclus) look weird. Awaclus looks towny for not switching to me. I suppose Silver also looks towny for not switching to me, but also there is TWM choice of me over SS.

And then of course there is IDP break dancing in the corner. You go Glenn CoCo.


Night 3 is interesting: RR at #378 lists his lynchable list as Awaclus, SS, TWM, and IDP. He then also is the only person to react with "why did you claim???" to my VT claim at the eod. Then he was redacted and killed. just whatever - something I overlooked at first. If this is correct then the next most plain explanation is that Space doctored someone that killed her.


Day 3:

Day 3 Final Vote Count

Awaclus (1): theorel
schadd (5): Robz888, Awaclus, silverspawn, DatSwan, Joseph2302
silverspawn (2): schadd, IDontPlayThisGame

Not Voting (0)

With 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

- This is where we left off, which from my approach means there is not too much to learn. I keep trying to find something from the IDP vote that could deduce something but I am coming up blank.


TDLR;

Awaclus and SS are my preferred (slight hedge on Awaclus)

IDPTG on the radar

Don't think there is a world where I am lynching Joseph or Robz. But feel free to throw some wrenches into it because that's all I got :P

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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #588 on: February 14, 2018, 05:11:57 pm »

OK so following the original logic, it would be unlikely that Mafia is on Lekkit at this point imo. 2 clear wagons. Everyone was in essential agreement by this point that Therol either had to be town or Mafia... obviously if you ARE Mafia at this time the only thing you are concerned with is not lynching a mime, so I assume not on Lekkit.

So that's why you have a scumread on me?

I didn't know Lekkit was a mime. Given that he got lynched by the majority of people, doesn't seem very reasonable to expect me to know that.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #589 on: February 14, 2018, 06:19:54 pm »

Your day 1 analysis assumes that mafia knows who the mimes are. I don't think that's the case.

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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #590 on: February 14, 2018, 06:42:43 pm »

Your day 1 analysis assumes that mafia knows who the mimes are. I don't think that's the case.
I could of worded it better:
My analysis is assuming everyone except the mikes do not know who the mikes are. Mafia does have the added benefit of knowing who mafia is. Theroel seemed much less likely to be he mime and the skummy nature of lekkit and his lurking would be know To mafia to be (if skum) not mafia.

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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #591 on: February 15, 2018, 04:07:28 am »

Your day 1 analysis assumes that mafia knows who the mimes are. I don't think that's the case.
I could of worded it better:
My analysis is assuming everyone except the mikes do not know who the mikes are. Mafia does have the added benefit of knowing who mafia is. Theroel seemed much less likely to be he mime and the skummy nature of lekkit and his lurking would be know To mafia to be (if skum) not mafia.

I don't think Lekkit was particularly scummy.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #592 on: February 15, 2018, 04:32:14 am »

well it's not me so vote: Awaclus

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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #593 on: February 15, 2018, 04:35:58 am »

Vote Count 4.1

Awaclus (2): DatSwan, silverspawn
DatSwan (1): Awaclus

Not Voting (3): Robz888, Joseph2302, IDontPlayThisGame

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 4 ends February 21 at 2:30 am forum time.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #594 on: February 15, 2018, 04:41:05 am »

well it's not me so vote: Awaclus

But it's not me either.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #595 on: February 15, 2018, 12:37:55 pm »

I'm completely lost. I should really  re-read.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #596 on: February 15, 2018, 04:43:10 pm »

Could someone - you know just for the sake of trying to win - try to come up with a case for someone else? Idk if i am just tunneled or what but these are the only options i am seeing.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #597 on: February 15, 2018, 05:27:59 pm »

Could someone - you know just for the sake of trying to win - try to come up with a case for someone else? Idk if i am just tunneled or what but these are the only options i am seeing.

I mean, I'm voting for you.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #598 on: February 15, 2018, 05:57:31 pm »

Could someone - you know just for the sake of trying to win - try to come up with a case for someone else? Idk if i am just tunneled or what but these are the only options i am seeing.

I mean, I'm voting for you.

I mean I doubt it will end in me voting for myself... but if you wanna share your case I am not going to try and stop you.
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Re: M112: Gilmore Girls Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #599 on: February 15, 2018, 06:02:18 pm »

Could someone - you know just for the sake of trying to win - try to come up with a case for someone else? Idk if i am just tunneled or what but these are the only options i am seeing.

I mean, I'm voting for you.

I mean I doubt it will end in me voting for myself... but if you wanna share your case I am not going to try and stop you.

I don't really want to share it. Do you want to share why I shouldn't have a case on you?
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