schadd has some reads finally! I still wish he posted more, especially after the EoD yesterday. I'll come back to that later though.
I just did a quick reread of WW and I don't see Haddock's points. I think this is Haddock trying to pivot.
I remember ashersky making a point against silver that sounded important. I'll look into that next.
I got similar feelings to this. Haddock's going after iguana didn't work, so it looks like he is looking for a new target. But, the problem is that I think this is also what he might do as town when he realizes that his tunneled is town.
I think Jake is wrong about galz, at least his reasoning is wrong.
stopping at #700 this time, but I'm surprised that no one has brought up schadd, and that no one is voting for EFHW. She is being very scummy. vote: EFHW.
Thankyou for explaining what EFHW meant by "pivoting", since she never did.
I could probably vote EFHW, but right now I still prefer DatSwan, I think.
Oh, just realized that I had almost caught up. Doing the rest now.
Vote: Schadd
Does anybody know of a game where town:
- Could vote without it counting
- Couldn't hammer
- Only had their vote count when made from their QT
- Any other town explanation for Schadd being able to vote publicly but not have it count
?
Ok, someone finally brings this up. I think that at this point, schadd just has to full-claim. The only roles I know of with this are scum roles (I haven't looked closely), but I know this was something that outed Haddock as scum in rewind 1. I think though, that faust would be unlikely to put the same role in as from Rewind 1 (although Haddock was really outed because you had only the roles from the same game to fakeclaim, you weren't able to go to other games safely, so that is really what outed Haddock). And if faust didn't put that role in, it seems strange that he would give scum 2 traitors (Settlers of Catan and Frost person from flash).
But, I still don't know a role that is town that would have the powers that he is claiming to have, and none of the items do that at all.
I love how everyone is talking about schadd now and being all "why did noone mention this before?", when I brought it up here:
Also, lest we forget:
Confirmed, Rolestopping Priest was an Orc role in LOTR2 that I made — couldn’t hammer ever unless only Orc left alive.
Does Faust flip that into a town role? Anyway, good info for the future.
I want to emphasize this so that folks don’t forget this tomorrow. Or if killing roles want to sort this out for us tonight.
Ash was keen to have discussion about schadd's fakehammer.
It's a good point. Orcish Priest is the only role that springs to my mind because it's what I was in Rewind 1. (Does faust use the same roles as from Rewind 1? Dunno. Probably not?)
and was roundly ignored.
I'm not sure we really need schadd to claim, do we? I mean - we can be pretty sure he's a Priest, in which case we know what his claim is going to be, don't we?
What's that got to do with anything?
Jake is claiming that the role that Galz has claimed would be a good one for scum to have, particularly when combined with certain items. But so what?
Barring weird mod nonsense, it's impossible for galz to simultaneously be scum and have the role he has claimed.
It's a RMM. Weird nonsense is the definition.
Yeah he even has a whole section in set up explaining that changes in roles will be a different text color or whatever. I think it is t only not unlikely, i think it is to be expected
Meh. I mean, YES, maybe faust has changed some roles, yes, MAYBE one of them has changed alignment. But
a) what are the chances that we happen to snag on exactly THAT role to worry about among the 16 players (OK, 1/16, I know. My point it, that's pretty small.)
b) It doesn't alter my point, which is that DatSwan is (or was) making an argument that Galzria is scum based on the ASSUMPTION that Galz is being honest about his role. Does noone else see the craziness there?
Ok, getting to this now in the only way I know how.
I'm not the biggest fan of Haddock's Start of day. Seems weird to be mad at an SK lynch, because I think those are generally the hardest ones to find.
Either you're misrepresenting me or I said something I don't remember saying. I wasn't mad about the SK lynch, at all. I said something to the effect of "that was a good lynch", didn't I?
I may have been a little bit peeved to have missed so much of the end of D1 - it all zipped by so quickly while I was gone for less than a day.