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[SpaceAnemone]

Fly-by Space Count, since work is a bit too busy for me to do more than skim along with things today, and I'm out tonight:

Galzria (1): gkrieg13
LaLight (3): DatSwan, O, Galzria
gkrieg13 (2): LaLight, faust
Not Voting (9): 2.71828....., Archetype, Eevee, Qvist, Roadrunner7671, SpaceAnemone, iguanaiguana, Jimmmmm, Teproc

[SpaceAnemone]

Okay, I really should also vote: LL before I sink back into the world of work deadlines...

I'm feeling relatively unconvinced by the argument against gkrieg, until we know whether or not we can trust the person accusing him. Surely the logical thing is to wait for LL to flip before deciding whether to lynch someone on his say-so?

[Robz888]

Dharma quote of the day: we are the causes of our own suffering. Thank you. Namaste.

Vote Count 2.2

LaLight (4): DatSwan, O, Galzria, SpaceAnemone
Galzria (1): gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (2): LaLight, faust

Not Voting (8.): Jimmmmm, iguaniguana, Qvist, Archetype, RoadRunner7671, 2.71828, Eevee, Teproc

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, October 4 at 2:00 PM.

[faust]

Okay, I really should also vote: LL before I sink back into the world of work deadlines...

I'm feeling relatively unconvinced by the argument against gkrieg, until we know whether or not we can trust the person accusing him. Surely the logical thing is to wait for LL to flip before deciding whether to lynch someone on his say-so?

Do you think LaLight is lying about his target, or his role?

[SpaceAnemone]

Okay, I really should also vote: LL before I sink back into the world of work deadlines...

I'm feeling relatively unconvinced by the argument against gkrieg, until we know whether or not we can trust the person accusing him. Surely the logical thing is to wait for LL to flip before deciding whether to lynch someone on his say-so?

Do you think LaLight is lying about his target, or his role?

Well, yes. My concern is that he's lying about one or other of those. Mostly that he's lying about his faction!

To clarify, it's a balance-of-probabilities issue: I don't have a clear idea of what scenario has occurred (there's way too little info in the game for that), but there are several possible configurations, each with relatively low probabilities that still sum up to something worrying overall.

Look at this a different way: if LL flips others-aligned, are you more or less likely to want to lynch gkrieg? What if he flips SM-aligned? If your answer to those would be anything other than a perfect "it makes no difference whatsoever", then why not lynch the person who's being scummy, first, then have that extra information for further scum-hunting?

[faust]

Look at this a different way: if LL flips others-aligned, are you more or less likely to want to lynch gkrieg? What if he flips SM-aligned? If your answer to those would be anything other than a perfect "it makes no difference whatsoever", then why not lynch the person who's being scummy, first, then have that extra information for further scum-hunting?

Well yes, that would be true, if it were the case that LaLight is scummy and gkrieg is not.

[faust]

Look at this a different way: if LL flips others-aligned, are you more or less likely to want to lynch gkrieg? What if he flips SM-aligned? If your answer to those would be anything other than a perfect "it makes no difference whatsoever", then why not lynch the person who's being scummy, first, then have that extra information for further scum-hunting?

Well yes, that would be true, if it were the case that LaLight is scummy and gkrieg is not.

And it's not even true, as exemplified by this slightly different example:

A has a result on B. It says B is 100% scum.

A has the following probabilities: 50% likely to be town, 25% likely to be scum telling the truth, 25% likely to be lying scum.

Then, still B is scum in 75% of all cases and thus should be lynched before A.

[Eevee]

Vote: LL

[LaLight]

Vote: LL

I think you have said that the longer I am alive the better lynch target I am. Why change?

[Robz888]

We have received a message from Ann Arbor: Effective immediately, Chairs has replaced Archetype. He has just arrived on the submarine, we think.

Namaste.

[LaLight]

oh, chairs is here, I can't say I am Town any more

anyway welcome!

[gkrieg13]

Dharma quote of the day: we are the causes of our own suffering. Thank you. Namaste.

Vote Count 2.2

LaLight (4): DatSwan, O, Galzria, SpaceAnemone
Galzria (1): gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (2): LaLight, faust

Not Voting (8.): Jimmmmm, iguaniguana, Qvist, Archetype, RoadRunner7671, 2.71828, Eevee, Teproc

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, October 4 at 2:00 PM.

13 people alive should be 7 to lynch.

[LaLight]

Dharma quote of the day: we are the causes of our own suffering. Thank you. Namaste.

Vote Count 2.2

LaLight (4): DatSwan, O, Galzria, SpaceAnemone
Galzria (1): gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (2): LaLight, faust

Not Voting (8.): Jimmmmm, iguaniguana, Qvist, Archetype, RoadRunner7671, 2.71828, Eevee, Teproc

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, October 4 at 2:00 PM.

13 people alive should be 7 to lynch.

good thing it's 15 then

[gkrieg13]

LaLight targeting me means that I was either the target of SM or someone else stopped him.

vote: LaLight.   L-1

I’m on my phone right now so it is hard to respond to multiple posts but I didn’t see any direct questions for me when I was reading this morning. Anyone got anything?

[gkrieg13]

Dharma quote of the day: we are the causes of our own suffering. Thank you. Namaste.

Vote Count 2.2

LaLight (4): DatSwan, O, Galzria, SpaceAnemone
Galzria (1): gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (2): LaLight, faust

Not Voting (8.): Jimmmmm, iguaniguana, Qvist, Archetype, RoadRunner7671, 2.71828, Eevee, Teproc

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, October 4 at 2:00 PM.

13 people alive should be 7 to lynch.

good thing it's 15 then

Oh my own name not being bold threw me off. You’re right.

[gkrieg13]

So not L-1 on LaLight.

[LaLight]

LaLight targeting me means that I was either the target of SM or someone else stopped him.

vote: LaLight.   L-1

I’m on my phone right now so it is hard to respond to multiple posts but I didn’t see any direct questions for me when I was reading this morning. Anyone got anything?

why does it mean it? I mean SM could target you and I could save your life!

[faust]

LaLight targeting me means that I was either the target of SM or someone else stopped him.

vote: LaLight.   L-1

I’m on my phone right now so it is hard to respond to multiple posts but I didn’t see any direct questions for me when I was reading this morning. Anyone got anything?

You think LaLight stopped a kill on you and you still want to lynch him?

[gkrieg13]

LaLight targeting me means that I was either the target of SM or someone else stopped him.

vote: LaLight.   L-1

I’m on my phone right now so it is hard to respond to multiple posts but I didn’t see any direct questions for me when I was reading this morning. Anyone got anything?

You think LaLight stopped a kill on you and you still want to lynch him?

He stopped a SM kill, which I guess is less likely that he is mafia. Because he would’ve targeted a partner.

unvote

[Teproc]

I don't like the LL lynch, I think.

vote: Galz

[gkrieg13]

The thing is, my reads have been on point this game, and I still very much read LaLight as scum.

[LaLight]

The thing is, my reads have been on point this game, and I still very much read LaLight as scum.

So you're my secret partner then?

[Galzria]

I don't like the LL lynch, I think.

vote: Galz

So you think I killed WW?

[Eevee]

Vote: LL

I think you have said that the longer I am alive the better lynch target I am. Why change?

So much not adding up about your behavior, now including the bid and draft order you claimed. If it flails like a fish, smells like fish and swims like a fish, it's probably a fish, you know.

I must admit that keeping up posting like LL has and never giving up feels towny, but all the other evidence is pointing to the contrary.

[faust]

The thing is, my reads have been on point this game, and I still very much read LaLight as scum.

It's not that great of an accomplishment if no scum have flipped yet.