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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #950 on: July 12, 2017, 09:53:52 am »

Vote count 2.1

J Reggie (1): 2.71828...
Roadrunner7671 (1): Robz888
gkrieg13 (1): J Reggie
2.71828... (1): Teproc
Eevee (1): gkrieg13
ashersky (1): Eevee

not voting (5): iguanaiguana, Roadrunner7671,  Joseph2302, JaketheBaseballGod22, ashersky

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. day 2 ends tuesday, july 18th at 9pm forum time.

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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #951 on: July 12, 2017, 10:21:40 am »

that is a phone vc and you're all not welcome
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I thought you thought it was a slip because I said 'Jake's partners' instead of 'Roadrunner7671.'

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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #952 on: July 12, 2017, 10:43:38 am »

What's the word on Jake?

i hear he is some sort of baseball deity
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #953 on: July 12, 2017, 11:06:17 am »

What's the word on Jake?

Would lynch
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #954 on: July 12, 2017, 11:13:37 am »

Re: Jake. His end of day yesterday was really loud and protesting, but that is really all that I felt it was. When asked for reasons same explanations there were none to be found.

I am still kind of on the fence if I really think scum!Jake behaves like that. He is totally capable of it, but I am just not sure. So I think someone like j Reggie is a better lynch, but very cautious of Jake
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #955 on: July 12, 2017, 12:08:03 pm »

Lot of people assuming mafia wants to kill werewolves. Is this true right now? If both WWs died, then, um, there's no nightkill at all, right? Mafia can't kill. I don't think mafia want this to happen so quickly.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #956 on: July 12, 2017, 12:24:03 pm »

I suspect anyone who is already pushing a lynch agenda. Scum already knows who they want to lynch, town has to figure it out. Throwing around claims of people being scum or town wily nilly is scummy.
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #957 on: July 12, 2017, 12:47:30 pm »

I suspect anyone who is already pushing a lynch agenda. Scum already knows who they want to lynch, town has to figure it out. Throwing around claims of people being scum or town wily nilly is scummy.

This makes no sense to me. You are basically saying that town does not know how to take data from D1 and formulate it into reads for D2.

Every scum/town read that I have seen from people so far D2 hasn't been "willy-nilly"

And posting reads and voting is townie, not scummy
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #958 on: July 12, 2017, 02:15:51 pm »

I suspect anyone who is already pushing a lynch agenda. Scum already knows who they want to lynch, town has to figure it out. Throwing around claims of people being scum or town wily nilly is scummy.

Wait, what ? Why should we wait 24 hours or whatever before playing the game ? It's not like something is magically going to happen at one point... and the way you do figure things out is by voting. This is all mafia 101.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #959 on: July 12, 2017, 02:22:03 pm »

This is all mafia 101.

I hope not. Mafia 101 was a disaster!
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #960 on: July 12, 2017, 04:06:21 pm »

Vote: E
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #961 on: July 12, 2017, 04:06:41 pm »

Re: Jake. His end of day yesterday was really loud and protesting, but that is really all that I felt it was. When asked for reasons same explanations there were none to be found.

I am still kind of on the fence if I really think scum!Jake behaves like that. He is totally capable of it, but I am just not sure. So I think someone like j Reggie is a better lynch, but very cautious of Jake
I don't behave like this at all as scum
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #962 on: July 12, 2017, 04:07:23 pm »

Lot of people assuming mafia wants to kill werewolves. Is this true right now? If both WWs died, then, um, there's no nightkill at all, right? Mafia can't kill. I don't think mafia want this to happen so quickly.
Definitely agree with this.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #963 on: July 12, 2017, 04:08:54 pm »

I definitely think Iguana and RR are town (Already sorta did but this list confirms).
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #964 on: July 12, 2017, 04:11:48 pm »

Actually, Vote: ashersky!! I just checked the player list, and I legitimately didn't remember he was in this game! That's so very unlike him.

Meant to say that I agree with this about ashersky. I also think Teproc is very possibly playing one of those "be as pro town as you can be" scum games.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #965 on: July 12, 2017, 04:35:40 pm »

I suspect anyone who is already pushing a lynch agenda. Scum already knows who they want to lynch, town has to figure it out. Throwing around claims of people being scum or town wily nilly is scummy.

Wait, what ? Why should we wait 24 hours or whatever before playing the game ? It's not like something is magically going to happen at one point... and the way you do figure things out is by voting. This is all mafia 101.

That's not what I mean. What I mean is that these posts:

yeah, ending up on faust was no good.  Thanks for reminding me.

vote: J Reggie
I think the exact opposite of E.

I mean, clearly he's wrong. WW's shot TWM, who was very obviously townie. Most townie, in fact. So clearly they want to work with Mafia at least for a while.

Mafia clearly guessed (if you can call it that) right that WWs would shoot the townie.

I actually think this makes RR look like a Mafia who was added to the list with the expectation that very townie TWM or ig would get shot.

Vote: RR
Well, when I caught up I was pretty sure TWM was scum.  So much for that.  I guess I'll go back to vote: gkrieg with the intent to put together a good case tomorrow, when I'm more awake.
Hmm. Kind of surprised of the choices. As others have alluded to, Iguana and TWM were somewhat universally read as town, and my personal feeling of RR also being town makes it seem to me like mafia purposefully picked towny players for their list. Wouldn't mafia want to put their two WW-reads on the list? If they could keep the same guy on the list for multiple nights and they wouldn't die, I think it's a safe bet town would start to consider lynching them.

I think it's unlikely mafia put themselves on the list. FOS anyone not named!
vote: eevee
Actually, Vote: ashersky!! I just checked the player list, and I legitimately didn't remember he was in this game! That's so very unlike him.

feel like they are pushing some sort of agenda, not analyzing the game. They read like they've already solved the game, which is scummy. Contrary to that, some of e's other posts, Joseph's posts, and Teproc's posts are giving a solvy/towny feel.

My perspective was probably influenced by two things. One, I was wrong about two strong scumreads - TWM and Faust. Two, I paid no attention to this game at all during night-phase because I felt 65% confident I'd be dead and it wouldn't matter to analyze the game. Those both make me feel like I need to re-evaluate and I guess I was also putting that on other people.

That being said, I still think scum plays cocky today knowing that nontown factions make up almost 50% of the game. They go out and start trying to steer the conversation. So yeah, Gkrieg, Eevee, and maybe Robz, e and J Reggie look scummy.

I also totally suspect Teproc of faking all this game-solvy-ness but there's no way we lynch him today after mislynching Faust yesterday. I'd say same probably goes for e.

Eevee seems like the best lynch to me right now but I still haven't reread D1.
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #966 on: July 12, 2017, 04:56:09 pm »

I disagree with virtually everything iguanaiguana just said, and with the exception of gkrieg, lean town on most of the people he named, especially Eevee.

But I think ig is town.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #967 on: July 12, 2017, 05:09:18 pm »

I feel like scum will try to fade into the background at this point.  As long as they don't get lynched, it is pretty good for them.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #968 on: July 12, 2017, 05:47:44 pm »

I feel like scum will try to fade into the background at this point.  As long as they don't get lynched, it is pretty good for them.

But fading into the background isn't a great way to avoid lynch...
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #969 on: July 12, 2017, 06:05:45 pm »

I don't think I came in with set opinions - I came in posting about my uncertainty between e and Reggie, and wound up voting for ashersky.

I'm surprised ash is flying under the radar like this. I also feel like Robz is yesyes'ing many things I'm saying, which makes me feel like he is buddying me, if you can believe that.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #970 on: July 12, 2017, 06:06:42 pm »

My reads with Robz seem to continue aligning, but I'm having this creeping feeling it's because he's always posting them after I post mine.

(this might be paranoia)
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #971 on: July 12, 2017, 06:08:45 pm »

Your paranoia is understandable.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #972 on: July 12, 2017, 06:10:58 pm »

That's what scumRobz would say!
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #973 on: July 12, 2017, 06:22:52 pm »

Robz has been very self aware this game. More so than usual.

Knee-jerk reaction is to yell out scum, but I am not so sure.
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Re: M103: fleetwood mac (day 2)
« Reply #974 on: July 12, 2017, 06:54:54 pm »

Unfortunately this is what town ii looks like. I still disagree with pretty much that whole post.
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