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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4425 on: July 17, 2017, 08:13:11 am »

Here's what people pursued in the draft. The draft went terrible for town and worse for scum. Basically, Slots 6 and 13 were insanely popular--twelve people bid on one of those two slots, including three scum. Mafia got shut out of those slots.

In general, the random slots were very popular.

As you will see below, town was underpowered and scum was way underpowered. Anyone, even the townies drafting last--O, Andrew, Cuzz--could have had PRs, and strong ones at that, if they drafted differently. Slots 3, 4, 5, and 8 went completely undrafted!

I think mafia made a mistake sending Iguanaiguana after 2-Shot Vig, probably should have assumed there was a 50% chance draftee #1 was taking the Vig or the Hammer Hero. So mafia's #2 draftee got nothing.

I also think mafia made a mistake not even trying for Inventor, which was a pretty strong scum power. It had extra killing potential. Was bummed not to see it used.

The Hammer Hero was poorly designed on my end, obviously. I did not envision town using it in the way mcmc did, and I of course did not think of the Hider thing. And then I compounded the problem by making some bad rulings on those interactions. I breathed a huge sigh of relief when 2.7 voided all of that.


Slot 1         
2-shot Vigilante -- <faust#1> <iguanaiguana  #2>   
Innocent Child -- <Awaclus  #10>                                   
Investigation Immune 

Slot 2:
Restless Sheeper -- <pingpongsam #15>
1-shot Commuter
1-shot Lightning Rod

Slot 3:
Alignment Cop
Roleblocker
Convert Serial Killer to Vanilla Townie

Slot 4
Role Cop
Watcher
Inventor

Slot 5
Doctor
JOAT (1-shot Ninja, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Roleblocker)
Convert Serial Killer to Survivor

Slot 6
Masonic Lover -- <Cuzz #22> <Eevee #9> <Jimm #3> <J Reggie #14>
Universal Backup -- <sudgy #7>
1-shot Bus Driver -- <ashersky #12>

Slot 7
Tracker
Godfather-er <LaLight #5>
1-shot Bulletproof

Slot 8
Strongman
Jailkeeper
Convert Serial Killer to Werewolf

Slot 9
1-shot Full Cop
Ninja
Hammer Hero <mcmcsalot #4>

Slot 10
Motion Detector
Hider – <The_Wine_Merchant #13>
Gambler

Slot 11 - <0 #21> <Galzria #20>
Random unchosen PR (Jailkeeper)

Slot 12 – <Jake #17> <SpaceAnemone #18>
Random unchosen PR (1-Shot Commuter)
Random unchosen PR (Tracker)

Slot 13 – <gkrieg #16> <RoadRunner #19> <AndrewisFTTW #23> <2.7 #6> <Calamitas #11> <Dylan #8>
Random unchosen PR (Alignment Cop)
Random unchosen PR (Convert Serial Killer to Werewolf)
Random unchosen PR (1-Shot Bus Driver)
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4426 on: July 17, 2017, 08:59:20 am »

Good game everyone! I had a blast. Freaking mass claim. my qt for your enjoyment

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4427 on: July 17, 2017, 09:05:18 am »

I love how much he speccy shows that the inability to trust other townies is a really really big hinderance to catching scum. The speccy always figures it out so quickly.

Also shoutout to my day 2 scum team call of cal/ash/galz/lalight/faust. That plus twm's result on iguana had the scum team on a plate. MVP shoutout to 2.7 for kicking the game off for town with a
Mafia kill and then leveling the playing field by ending my mighty hammer reign.
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Losses: M20, M22, M25, M27, M30, M31, M35, M38, M40, M42, M46, M60, M90, M93, M96, M98, M100, M101, M106, M111, M113
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4428 on: July 17, 2017, 09:09:14 am »

Also comically enough I never had the double-invincible-ic plan when I picked hammer hero, I literally just wanted a power that would help me survive the night and I wanted to prevent another towny from taking the power and stupidly shooting like they would ever hit town since we all know...VIGS SHOUDN'T SHOOT...

It wasn't untill robz made the post about potential night kills and it prompted me to ask how the hider would cause an additional kill and then it all came together. I had a blast this game and well played to everyone, love that it came down to three person lylo.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4429 on: July 17, 2017, 09:28:06 am »

congrapulations scun
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4430 on: July 17, 2017, 09:35:21 am »

killing me was probably the right call but I was pretty committed to the town!galz train, the "missing" kill and general scummy vibes from both Space and Dylan make me doubt I would have flipped
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4431 on: July 17, 2017, 09:41:16 am »

Epic game. Towards the end I just followed the flips. Amazing game Galzria!
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4432 on: July 17, 2017, 09:42:47 am »

I knew early on Space was town. The rest was indecipherable. I was certain faust was brazen scum. I still don't understand his choices despite being certain they were probably sound.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4433 on: July 17, 2017, 10:51:05 am »

Yay!

My QT:
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/cQdXP4PbBSQ7E

I think the only seriously questioned kill call was on Faust the night LL was lynched - but as I explain in order to spin Strongman/RB through the end, I needed to recognize that Faust was an IC (we knew he was Vig. With 2 scum alive he could be scum!Vig with a shot left and a SM/RB partner. With 1 scum alive, he was still Vig... so couldn't be scum).
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4434 on: July 17, 2017, 10:58:04 am »

Also I did NOT want LL lynched yet - but I was torn on how hard I should try to steer the lynch from him. And not hammering Faust when I had that opportunity... man, so many tough choices. I mean, I hated the choice to go after iguana instead of Space when it was so close - but I couldn't justify town!Galz voting Space there, so I just couldn't do it as scum (Although I knew/was counting on Awaclus voting Iguana there - as O was on Space. So I knew if I voted Space we would've had a split field with Jimmm the breaking vote. And I had NO clue how he would fall.)
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 9
« Reply #4435 on: July 17, 2017, 11:10:50 am »

Oh, and well-played Galz!!!

I still had high suspicion on you, and I really did want to see how you'd react to my professed willingness to vote Dylan -- I had hoped the actual voting wouldn't happen till I was awake again today, and I'd be able to see whether you were too quick to jump on that or anything... it was a bit of a last-ditch plan, though. You hid very well!

Had I gone to bed last night without finishing this I would have either:

Not voted and stated my alarm was set for 2 hours to deadline (and I would have), in which case I wouldn't have tipped my voting hand yet in response to you OR, I would've finished sizing everything up and voted for you over Dylan. I didn't WANT to do it that way as it locked Dylan as town, but I figured his read on you was stronger than yours was on him - and in the limited game time he would be less likely to flip to me.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4436 on: July 17, 2017, 11:13:24 am »

there was too much game in this game and not enough game, knowmsayin?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4437 on: July 17, 2017, 11:23:32 am »

So the only town PR used to catch a scum was... the Hider catching iguanaiguana.
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« Reply #4438 on: July 17, 2017, 11:32:15 am »

 It appears reading the speccy that I could have left O alive. I just couldn't figure out how scum!Dylan or scum!Space ever decides to leave us both in game together given his stated read on me. Combined with my own fear he would flip because, well, no way Scum!Dylan or Scum!Space leave us together...
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4439 on: July 17, 2017, 11:35:47 am »

It appears reading the speccy that I could have left O alive. I just couldn't figure out how scum!Dylan or scum!Space ever decides to leave us both in game together given his stated read on me. Combined with my own fear he would flip because, well, no way Scum!Dylan or Scum!Space leave us together...

Galz, my thinking was you could have--and should have--killed Space, who is a much bigger endgame threat than you realized, mostly because how thorough they are... and the prevailing wisdom could have been, well, the last scum killed Space because Space was the only person not on the sudgy wagon.
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« Reply #4440 on: July 17, 2017, 11:39:05 am »

I don't think at the point where it was trackable I ever lied about my jailing targets. After Jake was goneI jailed O most nights giving him the most amount of credit for living players to maybe have a PR (I was thinking Doctor) still. He would absolutely claim VT and hide it during mass claim...

The only night I didn't jail him was when I killed Awaclus and claimed to have jailed him "confirming" SM/RB - on the crazy chance O was a Doctor, had he targeted Awaclus then there "should" have been two protections. If O was in jail my kill would've succeeded thus outing me as scum on the claim to O. So I jailed nobody that night figuring the kill would happen but if it didn't... O would be confirmed Doctor and I wouldn't be caught in a lie.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4441 on: July 17, 2017, 11:40:31 am »

Wow, what a game. Gg all, even if it didn't go the way I hoped at least I was around for most of it
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« Reply #4442 on: July 17, 2017, 11:45:09 am »

It appears reading the speccy that I could have left O alive. I just couldn't figure out how scum!Dylan or scum!Space ever decides to leave us both in game together given his stated read on me. Combined with my own fear he would flip because, well, no way Scum!Dylan or Scum!Space leave us together...

Galz, my thinking was you could have--and should have--killed Space, who is a much bigger endgame threat than you realized, mostly because how thorough they are... and the prevailing wisdom could have been, well, the last scum killed Space because Space was the only person not on the sudgy wagon.

Yeah, maybe...

Thing is, I don't believe the way Space process information would necessarily lead to me over Dylan. I don't think this game could be "solved" in that fashion at this point. And they've stated to be much worse with emotional/gut/feeling type reads.

Obviously though, yes - as I said in our QT and again to Dylan last night: The Dylan/Space matchup was by far the scariest to me.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4443 on: July 17, 2017, 01:10:00 pm »

yeesh. gggalz
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4444 on: July 17, 2017, 01:22:25 pm »

yeesh. gggalz

You were so townie. I was sad you got shot by Faust. I made the argument to keep you alive n1 when you were the initial Mafia NK target.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4445 on: July 17, 2017, 01:25:36 pm »

If I recall correctly, Galz also successfully jailed fellow mafia ashersky, saving ash from death.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4446 on: July 17, 2017, 01:26:13 pm »

yeesh. gggalz

You were so townie. I was sad you got shot by Faust. I made the argument to keep you alive n1 when you were the initial Mafia NK target.

i saw somebody made a comment in the scum qt about me playing like a vt trying to draw the nk which was 100% true, but ended up with me being vigged by town anyway
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« Reply #4447 on: July 17, 2017, 01:26:38 pm »

Anyway it was nice to see it come down to three person LYLO. I was rooting for town for most of the game but couldn't help but hope Galz pulled it out by the end, an awesome scum!Galz performance is a cool thing for the 100th game to feature.
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« Reply #4448 on: July 17, 2017, 01:27:03 pm »

If I recall correctly, Galz also successfully jailed fellow mafia ashersky, saving ash from death.

He was never targeted, no.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- GAME OVER
« Reply #4449 on: July 17, 2017, 01:27:50 pm »

If I recall correctly, Galz also successfully jailed fellow mafia ashersky, saving ash from death.

He was never targeted, no.

Then the target was changed... at one point someone was going to try and kill him.
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