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[Galzria]

Ok. So I think Space is more likely scum than Galz. I guess what it boils down to, is that I would rather lose to a perfect fake claim that whose night actions were verified by a town tracker than to the VT that has looked scummy the last 2 days and has been too perfect to actually be town in voting.

Vote: SpaceAnemone

vote: SpaceAnemone

That was intense. Space is going to be super sad.

Very well played to everybody.

My claim was 100% true - just not town aligned.

[Dylan32]

I'm so sorry everyone...

[Dylan32]

I was *this* close to intentionally leaving the space out of my vote so that it wouldn't count just to try to see if you would jump in and say something like that without realizing.  I decided not to because I thought it might be pretty cheap, although now I almost wish I had tried it...

[Galzria]

I was *this* close to intentionally leaving the space out of my vote so that it wouldn't count just to try to see if you would jump in and say something like that without realizing.  I decided not to because I thought it might be pretty cheap, although now I almost wish I had tried it...

I checked the vote a couple times to make sure it was correct. Also previewed a few times to see if you were going to unvote right away.

[Dylan32]

I was *this* close to intentionally leaving the space out of my vote so that it wouldn't count just to try to see if you would jump in and say something like that without realizing.  I decided not to because I thought it might be pretty cheap, although now I almost wish I had tried it...

I checked the vote a couple times to make sure it was correct. Also previewed a few times to see if you were going to unvote right away.

Thought about that too, but was posting elsewhere at that moment.

[Dylan32]

Man what a freaking let down...

[Galzria]

I'm so sorry everyone...

To be fair, it's not all on you. I *think* Space was leaning your way too - so I had decent outs both sides.

The kill on O last night TORTURED me, but I was -certain- that if I left him alive he would come in to today and flip his read on me based on the fact that no scum in their right mind would leave us both alive going into the final day with his stated town read on me.

But I had the final pairs worked out on D6 and you two were my least favored choice by FAR.

[Galzria]

For the record, somewhere around (I think) d6 I explained the missing n2 kill: We targeted mcmc that night in the hopes that his rock solid "I will take protection tonight to confirm all us townies" would play out as WIFOM and he would go for the shot instead.

[Dylan32]

I'm so sorry everyone...

To be fair, it's not all on you. I *think* Space was leaning your way too - so I had decent outs both sides.

The kill on O last night TORTURED me, but I was -certain- that if I left him alive he would come in to today and flip his read on me based on the fact that no scum in their right mind would leave us both alive going into the final day with his stated town read on me.

But I had the final pairs worked out on D6 and you two were my least favored choice by FAR.

Yeah I think Space would have gone for me. They typically have not read me well at all: town in my scum games and vice versa here.  But I don't know. 
What do you mean least favored choice?

[Galzria]

Man, It's like, 2:00 AM for Robz. He's not gonna lock 'n flip for hours still! I want the thread opened to everyone!

[Galzria]

I'm so sorry everyone...

To be fair, it's not all on you. I *think* Space was leaning your way too - so I had decent outs both sides.

The kill on O last night TORTURED me, but I was -certain- that if I left him alive he would come in to today and flip his read on me based on the fact that no scum in their right mind would leave us both alive going into the final day with his stated town read on me.

But I had the final pairs worked out on D6 and you two were my least favored choice by FAR.

Yeah I think Space would have gone for me. They typically have not read me well at all: town in my scum games and vice versa here.  But I don't know. 
What do you mean least favored choice?

I mean that back after LaLight was lynched, I looked over the players in the game, looked over all your reads and stuff, and looked ahead to who I did and didn't want to face off against. You and Space being the final two were seriously the scariest set of players to me.

[Dylan32]

I'm so sorry everyone...

To be fair, it's not all on you. I *think* Space was leaning your way too - so I had decent outs both sides.

The kill on O last night TORTURED me, but I was -certain- that if I left him alive he would come in to today and flip his read on me based on the fact that no scum in their right mind would leave us both alive going into the final day with his stated town read on me.

But I had the final pairs worked out on D6 and you two were my least favored choice by FAR.

Yeah I think Space would have gone for me. They typically have not read me well at all: town in my scum games and vice versa here.  But I don't know. 
What do you mean least favored choice?

I mean that back after LaLight was lynched, I looked over the players in the game, looked over all your reads and stuff, and looked ahead to who I did and didn't want to face off against. You and Space being the final two were seriously the scariest set of players to me.

I would love to say you lucked out and ran into working 50+ hours a week me instead of bored me, but I'm not even sure it would have changed the outcome. I hated Space's pivot onto RR for that so much that it would have taken a lot to get me to overlook that.  Seriously, overestimating his town cred from that was 1000% town!rr

[Galzria]

I'm so sorry everyone...

To be fair, it's not all on you. I *think* Space was leaning your way too - so I had decent outs both sides.

The kill on O last night TORTURED me, but I was -certain- that if I left him alive he would come in to today and flip his read on me based on the fact that no scum in their right mind would leave us both alive going into the final day with his stated town read on me.

But I had the final pairs worked out on D6 and you two were my least favored choice by FAR.

Yeah I think Space would have gone for me. They typically have not read me well at all: town in my scum games and vice versa here.  But I don't know. 
What do you mean least favored choice?

I mean that back after LaLight was lynched, I looked over the players in the game, looked over all your reads and stuff, and looked ahead to who I did and didn't want to face off against. You and Space being the final two were seriously the scariest set of players to me.

I would love to say you lucked out and ran into working 50+ hours a week me instead of bored me, but I'm not even sure it would have changed the outcome. I hated Space's pivot onto RR for that so much that it would have taken a lot to get me to overlook that.  Seriously, overestimating his town cred from that was 1000% town!rr

Yeah, I don't know. I feel I played a very pro-town game overall, and I didn't really have to put up too much a defense today (less than I thought I would). I would like to feel like I could've defended myself reasonably well on a lot of different fronts.

The intent to vote for Ash and Iguana were both solid points that I did get to bring up. I would've brought up my lack of hammer on faust when I could've done so on the day LaLight was lynched. My claim worked very well for me throughout. I dunno. I think I had a pretty solid line of defense. But I don't know for certain that it would've all held together.

[Dylan32]

I'm so sorry everyone...

To be fair, it's not all on you. I *think* Space was leaning your way too - so I had decent outs both sides.

The kill on O last night TORTURED me, but I was -certain- that if I left him alive he would come in to today and flip his read on me based on the fact that no scum in their right mind would leave us both alive going into the final day with his stated town read on me.

But I had the final pairs worked out on D6 and you two were my least favored choice by FAR.

Yeah I think Space would have gone for me. They typically have not read me well at all: town in my scum games and vice versa here.  But I don't know. 
What do you mean least favored choice?

I mean that back after LaLight was lynched, I looked over the players in the game, looked over all your reads and stuff, and looked ahead to who I did and didn't want to face off against. You and Space being the final two were seriously the scariest set of players to me.

I would love to say you lucked out and ran into working 50+ hours a week me instead of bored me, but I'm not even sure it would have changed the outcome. I hated Space's pivot onto RR for that so much that it would have taken a lot to get me to overlook that.  Seriously, overestimating his town cred from that was 1000% town!rr

Yeah, I don't know. I feel I played a very pro-town game overall, and I didn't really have to put up too much a defense today (less than I thought I would). I would like to feel like I could've defended myself reasonably well on a lot of different fronts.

The intent to vote for Ash and Iguana were both solid points that I did get to bring up. I would've brought up my lack of hammer on faust when I could've done so on the day LaLight was lynched. My claim worked very well for me throughout. I dunno. I think I had a pretty solid line of defense. But I don't know for certain that it would've all held together.

Yeah, I don't even know what the best way to attack you would have been. You were on the right side of faust/ash during the discussion, the likelihood of scum PR canceled out the fact scum would have NK'd you before the end, and your night actions were exactly what you said they were.

[SpaceAnemone]

Space is going to be super sad.

^^^^^^^^

too perfect

Though this makes me feel a little better ;-)

[SpaceAnemone]

I really want to know what went on with the scum bids on PRs, though, and the overall draft stuff... that's still confusing me immensely!

[SpaceAnemone]

Oh, and well-played Galz!!!

I still had high suspicion on you, and I really did want to see how you'd react to my professed willingness to vote Dylan -- I had hoped the actual voting wouldn't happen till I was awake again today, and I'd be able to see whether you were too quick to jump on that or anything... it was a bit of a last-ditch plan, though. You hid very well!

[Robz888]

Thread locked

[Robz888]

Huh.  Well.

I'm...

Yeah, I'm stumped.

Galz, how does it feel knowing that your night actions were totally useless?

I guess there is a lesson here:

In M-II, I was the most trusted player, whom nobody suspected. I was scum.

In M-III, Yuma was the most trusted player, whom nobody suspected. He was scum.

In M-V, Yuma was the most trusted player, whom nobody suspected. He was scum.

Lesson: Lynch strongest pro-town reads. They're really scum.

SpaceAnemone, the Vanilla Townie has been lynched.
Dylan32, the Vanilla Townie, has been endgamed.

Galzria, the Mafia-Aligned Jailkeeper, wins with fellow mafia members LaLight, iguanaiguana, ashersky, and Calamitas.

Congratulations, Mafia!

Thread unlocked forever.

[ashersky]

Bam.

[ashersky]

Basically, this is what happens when Galz is on your team.  Doesn't really matter what the rest of us did.

Thanks for carrying the load on this one!

[LaLight]

oh my, this was THE game. Galz, you're the best!

[LaLight]

Robz, QTs?

[Robz888]

Galzria is MVP, obviously. No discussion needs to be had about that.

Mafia QT here: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/b6Ghps3YncsNm
Spectator QT here: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/RviPWjV77B56S
Masonic Lovers QT here: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/yEqtyvb3rjQkx
Moderator QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/kvh8XjjsLhPx

If players want to post links to their individual QTs, that's up to them.

Note that all decisions are final, even if someone encounters some kind of math error in the draft calculating process, which is a strong possibility knowing me.

The consensus most feared mafia team was: ashersky, Galzria, faust, gkrieg, mcmcsalot
The ten people who received the most pro-townie points during question 2 were: faust (51), gkrieg (36), 2.7 (31), ashersky (29), Jimmmm (26), Eevee (24) Calamitas (23), Galzria (22), LaLight (22), SpaceAnemone (16)

There was a four-way tie for favorite game: Mafias 19, 33, 68, and 88 all received two votes, and every other game received one or fewer vote. Picking the game you voted for was a very smart strategy that only one player actually used (Jimmm).

Draft order and total points, bold if they got a PR. Exact ties in points were broken randomly.

1. Faust (141) 2-Shot Vig
2. Iguanaiguana (137)
3. Jimm (135) Masonic Lover
4. Mcmcsalot (47) Hammer Hero
5. 5. LaLight (46) Godfather-er
6. 2.7… (42) 1-Shot Bus Driver from Slot 13
7. Sudgy (41)
8. Dylan (41)
9. Eevee (40) Masonic Lover via random draw
10. Awaclus (39)
11. Calamitas (39)
12. Ashersky (38)
13. The_Wine_Merchant (38) Hider
14. J Reggie (37)
15. Pingpongsam (37) Restless Sheeper
16. Gkrieg (37)
17. Jake (33) Tracker from Slot 12
18. SpaceAnemone (32)
19. RoadRunner (30)
20. Galzria (28) Jailkeeper from Slot 11
21. O (24)
22. Cuzz (24)
23. AndrewisFTTW (23)

More drafting info to follow...

[faust]

Space, Dylan, you were so townie; why did you have to go and scumread one another?