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[Galzria]

I wonder how point ties were decided?

What happened if two mafia games were equally named favorite?

[Dylan32]

Remember, the order in which you had them mattered too. You got more points the closer you had them to the original spots. So everyone could match 7 out of 10 but the order is what will divide us up I bet.

[sudgy]

Remember, the order in which you had them mattered too. You got more points the closer you had them to the original spots. So everyone could match 7 out of 10 but the order is what will divide us up I bet.

This isn't for the mafia, though.

[Dylan32]

Remember, the order in which you had them mattered too. You got more points the closer you had them to the original spots. So everyone could match 7 out of 10 but the order is what will divide us up I bet.

This isn't for the mafia, though.

Maybe not, but we had to list 10 town PRs, so unless they were weighted significantly differently, there seems like there would be more points in those 10 were order did matter. Going purely from memory here for the time being. Actually, I've gotta be up pretty early in the morning, so I'm gonna hit the sack. See ya on the other side (of the Earth's rotation).

[sudgy]

Remember, the order in which you had them mattered too. You got more points the closer you had them to the original spots. So everyone could match 7 out of 10 but the order is what will divide us up I bet.

This isn't for the mafia, though.

Maybe not, but we had to list 10 town PRs, so unless they were weighted significantly differently, there seems like there would be more points in those 10 were order did matter. Going purely from memory here for the time being. Actually, I've gotta be up pretty early in the morning, so I'm gonna hit the sack. See ya on the other side (of the Earth's rotation).

The draft ordering process was as follows:

1. Correct guesses for question one were worth 5 points. Guessing the entire "most formidable" mafia team would have yielded 25 max points. (At least one player guessed all five.)

2. Correct guesses for question two were worth 3 points. 2 extra points were given for each guess that was ordered correctly. 1 point was subtracted for each wrong guess. A perfect score would have yielded 50 points if the answers were in the exact right order. Most players scored in the 15-20 range.

3. A correct answer here was worth 100 points--in practice, any player who got this right was automatically advanced to the front of the pack. (At least one player got this right.)

[SpaceAnemone]

Huh.. I'd managed to get myself to bed about an hour before you started this new exercise! Here are my answers, though I also agree with the sentiment that it's far too late for this now :-P

Personal:
My most-feared scums: faust, Calamitas, gkrieg, mcmc and TWM.
Hoped-for PRs: Calamitas, LaLight, Eevee, PPS, Dylan. (Strong people who I asserted wouldn't get KNd early!).
Favourite Game: M92 (xkcd)

Guesses:
My most-feared scums: ashersky, faust, Awaclus, PPS, AndrewisFTTW. (Sticking to people I think others rate)
PRs: ash, faust, gkreig, e, Jimmmmm, mcmc, Galz, Awaclus, LaLight, Calamitas. (Mixing in a name or two from the pool of people I knew nothing about).
Game: M72 (I've not read it; it just looked long and had ash as a mod, so I assumed it was good. I'd hoped that guessing in the 60s or 70s would strike a balance between "living memory" and "classics").

[SpaceAnemone]

Where's Space to analyze this stuff when you need her?

Space really should be asleep before 8pm forum time! It would be very healthy for your average anemone to be able to put the forum away by 7pm! At least I managed lights out before 8.30pm forum time yesterday :-)

I've kind of avoided wanting to analyse the ranking stuff because if I think too much about it, I'll probably have lots of feelings about the optimality of the algorithm chosen for the ranked list comparison, and that might look to the external observer a bit too much like sour grapes at having scored so low on the list! I did comment with surprise when we were first given the ranking task because I'd thought that algorithms weren't Robz's thing, but I failed to consider that a pragmatic approach might just be to pick a measure that sounds plausible and not care about the details. I usually forget how much other people aren't consumed by details :-(

[Dylan32]

So I just spent some time looking at our answers and comparing them, and it's at least plausible from my perspective that everyone is reasonably within the realm of what # they claimed.  I'm going to stick with the evidence and vote: sudgy.  I guess this is L-1. We only have a couple days left to the deadline, and they are as scummy as anyone in the game, so yeah, I'd like to stay here.

[sudgy]

I'm still not sure who I want to vote for.  I might not be around right at deadline (I'm at a slight offset from forum time), so it would be nice to get in a lynch by tomorrow night.

I would vote, but I'm not sure who I would want to, and nobody else really seems viable anyway.

[O]

vote: Sudgy

lets get this game on the road

[Dylan32]

Well, that's interesting.

[sudgy]

You guys better lynch scum tomorrow.

[sudgy]

And scum, if you win, very well deserved MVP.

[Dylan32]

We went 12 hours without a single post, then in 2 hours ended the day.

I'm still not sure who I want to vote for.  I might not be around right at deadline (I'm at a slight offset from forum time), so it would be nice to get in a lynch by tomorrow night.

I would vote, but I'm not sure who I would want to, and nobody else really seems viable anyway.

They say there's a crazy one in every family, and if you don't know who it is, it's probably you. 

[sudgy]

We went 12 hours without a single post, then in 2 hours ended the day.

I'm still not sure who I want to vote for.  I might not be around right at deadline (I'm at a slight offset from forum time), so it would be nice to get in a lynch by tomorrow night.

I would vote, but I'm not sure who I would want to, and nobody else really seems viable anyway.

They say there's a crazy one in every family, and if you don't know who it is, it's probably you. 

...how does that apply in this situation?

[Dylan32]

"No one else really seems viable anyway." You couldn't tell who the scum among us is (hopefully because it's you)

[sudgy]

"No one else really seems viable anyway." You couldn't tell who the scum among us is (hopefully because it's you)

It's not, though.  I just got lynched and I'm not the mafia.  It would be useless for me to say I'm not if I was the mafia at this point because then the game would be over.

[O]

Yea when the game is moving at a snails pace I often hammer quickly.

[O]

I'm still feeling pretty decent about this. Town!Sudgy would probably throw out a dying read.

[Dylan32]

I'm still feeling pretty decent about this. Town!Sudgy would probably throw out a dying read.

*Dying read incoming in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...*

[sudgy]

I'm still feeling pretty decent about this. Town!Sudgy would probably throw out a dying read.

That's the problem.  I don't really have any reads.  Like I said, it's stupid for me to say I'm town if I am mafia at this stage in the game.  If I'm mafia, the game is over.  Done.  I have absolutely no reason to keep up the charade any longer.  But I'm not, so I still want to help town.  Maybe we can try to do something productive in twilight rather than argue over whether I actually am scum.

[sudgy]

I'm still feeling pretty decent about this. Town!Sudgy would probably throw out a dying read.

*Dying read incoming in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...*

Nope.

[sudgy]

At least I won't have to make the decision on the final day.  I was not looking forward to rereading everything.

[O]

LaLight doing post-death shenanigans was just as useless.

[sudgy]

LaLight doing post-death shenanigans was just as useless.

When the game is still going on, it can be absolutely productive.  He can taint the way people read that stuff.  At this point it is absolutely, 100% useless (baring for fun, but it's not fun trying to convince people you're town when have 100% proof anyways).