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[Dylan32]

My Dylan re-read was also not totally useful, possibly because of confirmation bias. He's a good scum and I know it. He's aware of his scum meta, and appears to have taken steps to distance himself from it. I certainly don't mind him as a default lynch, as he's the leading wagon at the moment, but I'd like to know I've explored other options too!

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#312 Anti-massclaim for D1. But doesn't overall rule it out.

#436-#442 Throws shade on TWM for changing his mind on O and votes him (in the opposite order).

#532 Defending ash. Though maybe too much to risk on a partner?

#872 "Bussing D1 or D2 is particularly strong for scum." -- another pro-bussing candidate! If this is scum!Dylan, he was not on a single correct wagon D1, D2 [i]or[/i] D3, and then he didn't vote at all D4. He did get in on iguana at last in D5, and LL on D6, but by those points scum was really needing the townpoints, and he'd started a specific tally of people being on good lynches.

#1065 Posted to say he's really far behind.

#1765 Back from big VLA; hasn't posted anything since his "I'm behind" post at #1065. Plonks a vote on me without much useful description, but lurky early-game me is an easy target.

#1870 Pushing in the same direction as ash.

#2056 scumreading Eevee for being too right? Then Eevee was an NK. Of course, if sudgy really is the scum it woud be great wifom for a frame job, but there are more interesting people out there to frame this early in the game, I think.

#2243 Points out how good he is at being scum. Also, nicely puts LL into the scummy category, iguana into the nullish cetegory, and ash into the "lean town" category.

#2303 Careless L-2 against the HH plan?

#2319 Points out how different he is to his superb scum meta, in a post to Andrew, who was his scumbuddy in another recent game. This is really quite wifomy!

#2644 "Also, something about people saying "I wouldn't do that as scum" still just irks me, even though it is kind of an inevitable argument." -- isn't that kind of what all Dylan's "here's how my scum meta goes" posts are effectively trying to do? :-P

#2915 This is the post where Dylan feels the need to hint cryptically to us about the thing that would lead him "to strongly believe that someone specific is lying". I still don't quite see why town!Dylan needs to do that, but scum!Dylan experimenting with some slightly more ash-like scum-play could certianly find it interesting to try out.

Meh.. I'm well into re-reading Dylan's D3 now, and I still can't shake the gut feeling that he's scum.

This re-read mostly brought to you by confirmation bias :-)

The town reason for my cryptic statement was so that I wouldn't alert scum to what I saw as a pontential trap or something like that in the claims in hopes they would fall into it. And I might not have had anything else to say at that point, so that was me meeting the daily post rule lol. When I'm not on mobile in a car I'll try to respond more in full if you want.

@sudgy this isn't me flailing. This is me trying to actually play while having my mind occupied with vacation. Also, I was thinking about the game during my shift driving earlier and realized that you wouldn't claim random slot targeting a specific role. I was going to acknowledge that but you beat me to it. So I concede that detail.

[O]

my availability to switch votes past this point until deadline is questionable.

[SpaceAnemone]

Oh yeah, that thing about me getting towncred was absolutely not a joke, but I don't think I want to share it until tomorrow.

Vote: RR

Share now please.

If we get the lynch correct now, there doesn't even have to be a tomorrow, and I think a town player would be pretty focused on that!

[SpaceAnemone]

Vote: O for reasons not related to his last post.

.. and that's all you're giving us? We already have one Awaclus in the game, and that's quite enough.

We're very close to the deadline, and I almost certainly can't be online when it comes to it because I have a choir committee meeting starting at exactly that time. From my point of view, we need final cases before it gets to noon forum time, and we need to try to consolidate wagons, not scatter them. At this stage, talking and making cases is miles better than being cryptic. We even know there's only one scum left, so we don't have to worry any more about people wifoming to cover partners or anything.

[SpaceAnemone]

My lynch preference order right now is RR > Dylan > sudgy/O/Galz >> Awaclus. I have only gut case for scum!Dylan, but RR's behaviour here is starting to feel too much like scum!RR (okay, I guess the "feel" part means that's only a gut thing too...).

We can afford a mislynch, and RR is the player (other than our IC) who seems to be contributing least to the discussion dissecting the earlier game to look for alignment/partner clues and stuff. We also stand a better chance on working out what's up with Galz if we leave it another night.

That's being said, if it's not extremely substantial evidence, I vote we A. press him to share today and B. If he insists on not sharing today, default lynch him tomorrow if his towncred seems BS.

This is a good point, but I'm not happy deferring too many decisions, and the Galz JK/strongman evidence actually really benefits from being given another night, whereas there's no way that RR taking the info he already has and telling us tomorrow is any better than telling us right now. It benefits scum most if he can delay telling us till he can release some vague maybe-info just before the deadline and cause maximal confusion.. which seems to be exactly what he's trying to do.

[SpaceAnemone]

Space count as of #4152:

O (2): Awaclus, RR
Dylan (2): sudgy, O
sudgy (2): Galz, Dylan
RR (1): Space

[O]

My lynch preference order right now is RR > Dylan > sudgy/O/Galz >> Awaclus. I have only gut case for scum!Dylan, but RR's behaviour here is starting to feel too much like scum!RR (okay, I guess the "feel" part means that's only a gut thing too...).

We can afford a mislynch, and RR is the player (other than our IC) who seems to be contributing least to the discussion dissecting the earlier game to look for alignment/partner clues and stuff. We also stand a better chance on working out what's up with Galz if we leave it another night.

That's being said, if it's not extremely substantial evidence, I vote we A. press him to share today and B. If he insists on not sharing today, default lynch him tomorrow if his towncred seems BS.

This is a good point, but I'm not happy deferring too many decisions, and the Galz JK/strongman evidence actually really benefits from being given another night, whereas there's no way that RR taking the info he already has and telling us tomorrow is any better than telling us right now. It benefits scum most if he can delay telling us till he can release some vague maybe-info just before the deadline and cause maximal confusion.. which seems to be exactly what he's trying to do.

I don't particularly disagree with this but deadline is approaching and I don't want to try and muster 4 votes on RR (or 2 additional) with the remaining hours left.

I'll try and check in one last time and vote Sudgy if Sudgy is the one at L-1, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I wasn't happy about LaLight either though so maybe that's a good thing.

[O]

"wouldn't be happy" is a strong phrase I guess given the following

RR/Dylan > Sudgy/Space > Galzria > Awaclus/O

[Galzria]

vote: RR

That's being said, if it's not extremely substantial evidence, I vote we A. press him to share today and B. If he insists on not sharing today, default lynch him tomorrow if his towncred seems BS.

Yup.

[O]

aight well I'll park Vote:Roadrunner on then and hope we can muster one more.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 7.7

O (2): Awaclus, RoadRunner7671
Dylan32 (2): sudgy, O
sudgy (1): Dylan32
RoadRunner7671 (2): SpaceAnemone, Galzria

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day 7 ends Monday, July 3, At 2:00 PM Forum Time.

[SpaceAnemone]

aight well I'll park Vote:Roadrunner on then and hope we can muster one more.

Hint: you need a Space :-)

[SpaceAnemone]

vote: RR

That's being said, if it's not extremely substantial evidence, I vote we A. press him to share today and B. If he insists on not sharing today, default lynch him tomorrow if his towncred seems BS.

Yup.

What's your availability like for the next couple of hours? If the RR wagon doesn't have enough support, are you good to move to Dylan?

[Galzria]

vote: RR

That's being said, if it's not extremely substantial evidence, I vote we A. press him to share today and B. If he insists on not sharing today, default lynch him tomorrow if his towncred seems BS.

Yup.

What's your availability like for the next couple of hours? If the RR wagon doesn't have enough support, are you good to move to Dylan?

I prefer Sudgy to Dylan still - but I'll be around (mobile, at work, but should be able to check in at least every 30 until deadline).

[O]

Vote: Roadrunner

[sudgy]

I'm around until deadline now, and I'm willing to hammer RR.

[Roadrunner7671]

RIP

Time to share i guess

[Roadrunner7671]

Roadrunner, you're my bro. You can always read me correctly, but some day I'm gunna take advantage of that. I hope my partners kill you tonight so that we can talk in the speccy.

It was this post. At first I was like 'oh hey thanks' then I was like 'oh hey thanks times 2 because you confirmed me as town.'

Unless you think this is some crazy strong WIFOM or something like that, iguana accidentally confirmed me as town

[sudgy]

Roadrunner, you're my bro. You can always read me correctly, but some day I'm gunna take advantage of that. I hope my partners kill you tonight so that we can talk in the speccy.

It was this post. At first I was like 'oh hey thanks' then I was like 'oh hey thanks times 2 because you confirmed me as town.'

Unless you think this is some crazy strong WIFOM or something like that, iguana accidentally confirmed me as town

...that's it?  You have 20 minutes to give me a better reason than that.

[Roadrunner7671]

Roadrunner, you're my bro. You can always read me correctly, but some day I'm gunna take advantage of that. I hope my partners kill you tonight so that we can talk in the speccy.

It was this post. At first I was like 'oh hey thanks' then I was like 'oh hey thanks times 2 because you confirmed me as town.'

Unless you think this is some crazy strong WIFOM or something like that, iguana accidentally confirmed me as town

...that's it?  You have 20 minutes to give me a better reason than that.

Yep. There's also the entire game of me being towny, but that's my trump card.

[Roadrunner7671]

Like remember on D1 when I was convinced LaLight was scum? Remember yesterday when I started the LaLight wagon by simply voting for him with zero explanation?

[Roadrunner7671]

#RRRemembers

[Roadrunner7671]

Also SA, my play is the polar freakin opposite from Smallville.

[Roadrunner7671]

Damn 20 minutes is a long time. How about sudgy switched to O then Space swoops in at the deadline like they said they would and gets the hammer?

[Roadrunner7671]

But it's amazing to me that there's only one scum alive. You know, you go to slerp and when you wake up a spontaneous wagonhas pushed you to L-1 in like 10 hours.