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[LaLight]

I think that my stance on Space is final. I mean they are supertownie with either alignment and i think them as very dangerous if scum. but if my vote will be lacking for iguana lynch, I will join the wagon.

Both of them can be scum. Neither of them may be scum by the way.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not super well-equipped to figure out space vs iguana today or tomorrow.

Neither am I. At this point I'd rather vote for iguana, but that's pretty much only based off of other people's arguments. There's also the fact that he usually convinces me he's town when he's actually town, and that hasn't happened yet.

[faust]

Yeah, reread of this game is not like supereasy task

Space and iguana do not have more posts than what you would expect in a normal-sized game, so I fail to see the problem.

[faust]

I think that my stance on Space is final. I mean they are supertownie with either alignment and i think them as very dangerous if scum. but if my vote will be lacking for iguana lynch, I will join the wagon.

Both of them can be scum. Neither of them may be scum by the way.

So your stance is "whatever, I don't care". Cool. Maybe we should just lynch you.

[Awaclus]

Yeah, reread of this game is not like supereasy task

Space and iguana do not have more posts than what you would expect in a normal-sized game, so I fail to see the problem.

The problem is that I'm super busy.

[faust]

Yeah, reread of this game is not like supereasy task

Space and iguana do not have more posts than what you would expect in a normal-sized game, so I fail to see the problem.

The problem is that I'm super busy.

Yeah I know, that was rather directed at LaLight. But it's possible that he's super busy too.

[SpaceAnemone]

Fun fact: there have been only 244 meaningful votes/unvotes in this whole game so far.

I've generated a 2.2K text file giving the exact voting state at every point in the game. For the last bunch of games I've just kept a running vote tally manually, but the early portions of this game were too busy, and now it's just too long, so I finally got around to automating the vote-count process. It's not perfect: it misses a colon-less vote from RR in D1 that Robz allowed, and I haven't compared all the official vote counts to check it's correct at all the other points, but I'm confident it gives a good idea of how the wagons formed and moved.

I assume that even if I use a code cut, you're not going to want me to dump the whole thing into the thread, but if anyone has any sections or points in the game where they want to know the exact state, I can provide now :-)

I realised when doing it that we actually have loads of confirmed town/scum identities, and that I'm the townie with the most info at their disposal right now, since I know iguana is scum with ~95% certainty (modulo TWM doing what he said he would), while the rest of you have to account for the me/him problem. Anyway, it makes early-game wagons interesting to go back and look at, since so many people are now coloured in :-) Robz ruled at #1962 that coloured text is reserved for the mod, so I'm afraid I can only post the monochrome version of anything you pick out.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 5.2

iguanaiguana (2): faust, SpaceAnemone
SpaceAnemone (3): iguanaiguana, LaLight, O
O (1): Awaclus

Not Voting (5): Dylan32, RoadRunner7671, Galzria, Jimmmmm, sudgy

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 5 ends Monday, June 19, at 11:00 AM Forum Time.

[faust]

Fun fact: there have been only 244 meaningful votes/unvotes in this whole game so far.

I've generated a 2.2K text file giving the exact voting state at every point in the game. For the last bunch of games I've just kept a running vote tally manually, but the early portions of this game were too busy, and now it's just too long, so I finally got around to automating the vote-count process. It's not perfect: it misses a colon-less vote from RR in D1 that Robz allowed, and I haven't compared all the official vote counts to check it's correct at all the other points, but I'm confident it gives a good idea of how the wagons formed and moved.

I assume that even if I use a code cut, you're not going to want me to dump the whole thing into the thread, but if anyone has any sections or points in the game where they want to know the exact state, I can provide now :-)

I realised when doing it that we actually have loads of confirmed town/scum identities, and that I'm the townie with the most info at their disposal right now, since I know iguana is scum with ~95% certainty (modulo TWM doing what he said he would), while the rest of you have to account for the me/him problem. Anyway, it makes early-game wagons interesting to go back and look at, since so many people are now coloured in :-) Robz ruled at #1962 that coloured text is reserved for the mod, so I'm afraid I can only post the monochrome version of anything you pick out.

That sounds pretty good. I always meant to write some automation like that, but never really got around to it.

Can you maybe post each wagon that received >3 votes at the point when it was the largest? If that's not too much of a hassle.

[Roadrunner7671]

I got prodded. This game has really stalled for me, one of iguana and space are for sure scum so I think we should just lynch there.

[faust]

I got prodded. This game has really stalled for me, one of iguana and space are for sure scum so I think we should just lynch there.

Yes but WHICH ONE?

[Roadrunner7671]

Pick a number between 1 and 2.

[faust]

Pick a number between 1 and 2.

What is wrong with you? If you don't want to play, please send a PM to Robz that you want to out.

[Roadrunner7671]

Pick a number between 1 and 2.

What is wrong with you? If you don't want to play, please send a PM to Robz that you want to out.

I feel like we're going to lynch both in consecutive days. I already expressed interest in iguana, but they both seem meh. I had a mild townread on both, so I'm really trusting TWM but I just don't feel good about this lynch/lynches and I want to get it over with.

[faust]

Protip: It will be over faster if you vote.

[Roadrunner7671]

That's embarrassing, I thought I was. Vote: iguana

[iguanaiguana]

Sad.

[SpaceAnemone]

Can you maybe post each wagon that received >3 votes at the point when it was the largest? If that's not too much of a hassle.

Will do.. that's not too hard a request to script, though since it'll take a few mins, I'll put it off till I'm not actively busy at work..

I should have known that people around here wouldn't just pick a single timepoint they're interested in, huh? :-P

[Roadrunner7671]

Sad.

Me too

[iguanaiguana]

Sad.

Me too

I'm a town dude :/

[sudgy]

#636 looks a bit bad, because of how she's trying to pull Calamitas out of lurking.  I know it's been mentioned before and she has a reason for it, but it does still look bad.

In #1089, she does the same thing.  It feels a bit forced even.

In #1103, she's thinking about how the mafia would play a lot.

She does it again in #1283.

...Wow.  Not much for ages.  Maybe I'm just tired.  Anyway, in #3549, she makes a really good case on ashersky.  I would say this is towny but ash was already going down in flames, so I would say this is null.


Okay, so my read on Space has totally changed.  Most of what she did doesn't really implicate anything, and the few things I could find seem to point towards scum.  Even though I want to believe she's town, my mind is telling me she isn't.  I'll reread iguana before making any real decisions.  However, I have something else to do now.

[Dylan32]

#636 looks a bit bad, because of how she's trying to pull Calamitas out of lurking.  I know it's been mentioned before and she has a reason for it, but it does still look bad.

In #1089, she does the same thing.  It feels a bit forced even.

In #1103, she's thinking about how the mafia would play a lot.

She does it again in #1283.

...Wow.  Not much for ages.  Maybe I'm just tired.  Anyway, in #3549, she makes a really good case on ashersky.  I would say this is towny but ash was already going down in flames, so I would say this is null.


Okay, so my read on Space has totally changed.  Most of what she did doesn't really implicate anything, and the few things I could find seem to point towards scum.  Even though I want to believe she's town, my mind is telling me she isn't.  I'll reread iguana before making any real decisions.  However, I have something else to do now.

To be clear up front, I haven't had time to reread either yet, but now I have sudgy (who I have been gut scum-reading most of the game) flipping his read on Space as it looks like iguana is moving towards a lynch.  Partner tell if iguana flips scum.

[Dylan32]

Also, I thought iguana was closer to getting lynched than this, otherwise I would have vote: iguana a long time ago.

[faust]

I've gotta say the igauna / Space wagons are neatly fitting with my reads. Of course at least 1 townie is voting for iguana by now.

[O]

I've gotta say the igauna / Space wagons are neatly fitting with my reads. Of course at least 1 townie is voting for iguana by now.

scumslip?