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[2.71828.....]

I have a counterclaim thing of sorts, if folks want to kill the massclaim now.  Plenty of info already.

I dunno... if we get all the VTs to claim slots, then we could force out other errors. I'd prefer we complete the exercise rather than leaving it half-done with all this info out there already for scum.

Could be.  I'm not really caring much about draft order, and we know all the slots now.  There should be enough information for PRs to know what's what at this point, no?  Like me.

Very interested in what ashersky has to say here.

[SpaceAnemone]

Cool. As a reminder, don't claim your role or what you bid for until round two.

PPS has already claimed Restless Sheeper but I guess we don't know his draft order. I'd actually recommend that he doesn't claim that until round two, because I can't see how that possibly helps us.

So if we can agree to skip PPS for now, Spaceanemone is next.

There was no forgetting or misunderstanding. It was the original plan agreed upon by a consensus of people. Then people started claiming draft position and it became a "consensus" between you and Awaclus.

The post you quote from iguana was already after we'd started the claims, and he's reminding people not to claim the slot or role after sudgy over-claimed.

Note that in the section you quoted, iguana's saying nothing about not claiming the place in bid order, because claiming bid places is exactly what was agreed before!

[SpaceAnemone]

Ah, though it's true that sudgy already did claim what he went for. Are we satisfied that he won't try to wriggle out of saying he went for slot 6 (UB) if we continue?

[sudgy]

Ah, though it's true that sudgy already did claim what he went for. Are we satisfied that he won't try to wriggle out of saying he went for slot 6 (UB) if we continue?

I'm not wriggling.  I tried for UB and failed

[2.71828.....]

Cool. As a reminder, don't claim your role or what you bid for until round two.

PPS has already claimed Restless Sheeper but I guess we don't know his draft order. I'd actually recommend that he doesn't claim that until round two, because I can't see how that possibly helps us.

So if we can agree to skip PPS for now, Spaceanemone is next.

There was no forgetting or misunderstanding. It was the original plan agreed upon by a consensus of people. Then people started claiming draft position and it became a "consensus" between you and Awaclus.

The post you quote from iguana was already after we'd started the claims, and he's reminding people not to claim the slot or role after sudgy over-claimed.

Note that in the section you quoted, iguana's saying nothing about not claiming the place in bid order, because claiming bid places is exactly what was agreed before!

Ok. Yeah. In that case there was misunderstanding. Reading is hard sometimes

[2.71828.....]

Ah, though it's true that sudgy already did claim what he went for. Are we satisfied that he won't try to wriggle out of saying he went for slot 6 (UB) if we continue?

And it absolutely does not matter what you went for if you didn't get it. The slot is the only thing that matters

[SpaceAnemone]

Ah, though it's true that sudgy already did claim what he went for. Are we satisfied that he won't try to wriggle out of saying he went for slot 6 (UB) if we continue?

I'm not wriggling.  I tried for UB and failed

Yeah, I'm just looking for you to confirm that it was slot 6, and not some backup slot where you'd hoped to get it. I mean, it seems silly, but I don't know you, and some people (like the Robzs of the world!) would be perfectly capable of arguing that I'm misunderstanding them if I don't force things to be clear.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus, did you want to postpone PPS's spot-claiming till the end?

I don't think it makes a huge difference, but sure. If PPS wants to claim sooner than that, that's fine too.

[sudgy]

Ah, though it's true that sudgy already did claim what he went for. Are we satisfied that he won't try to wriggle out of saying he went for slot 6 (UB) if we continue?

I'm not wriggling.  I tried for UB and failed

Yeah, I'm just looking for you to confirm that it was slot 6, and not some backup slot where you'd hoped to get it. I mean, it seems silly, but I don't know you, and some people (like the Robzs of the world!) would be perfectly capable of arguing that I'm misunderstanding them if I don't force things to be clear.

Yeah, slot 6.

[SpaceAnemone]

I went for slot 12.

[Galzria]

Bid order was 19

Slot I bid for was 13

THATS ME

Hahaha

unvote: Ashersky

Which of you shot at Ash last night?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

@Jake

And why ash and gkrieg?

Still want this answered.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I would rather have the next couple of people go than have to wait x amount of time for Jimmmm

[The_Wine_Merchant]

At this point, but expecting more is still to come, I would be ok lynching 2.7, RR or Jake.

But I prefer 2.7.

[ashersky]

From my perspective, I think at least two and maybe three scum have outed themselves, not including the RR/2.7 thing.

If it's possible to answer without giving away info you want to sit on for now, can you say whether you think you've figured out any not-Mafia scums?

I think between Calamitas's death and the RR/e thing, we've weakened the main scum side, but we have to be careful not to get too complacent with one-or-two-person faction.

Not really able to say without giving away too much.  I'm interested to see how the rr/2.7 thing gets explained.  They literally claimed the same order and slot, right?

Sounds like misreading a QT post?

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

@Jake

And why ash and gkrieg?

Still want this answered.

Oh sorry. I felt gkrieg was being sorta different on D1 which was why I did him. I originally chose Faust N2 but later changed it to ashersky later on because I was checking to see if he was the sk.

[ashersky]

@Jake

And why ash and gkrieg?

Still want this answered.

Oh sorry. I felt gkrieg was being sorta different on D1 which was why I did him. I originally chose Faust N2 but later changed it to ashersky later on because I was checking to see if he was the sk.

You say that like you know for sure there's an SK...

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

@Jake

And why ash and gkrieg?

Still want this answered.

Oh sorry. I felt gkrieg was being sorta different on D1 which was why I did him. I originally chose Faust N2 but later changed it to ashersky later on because I was checking to see if he was the sk.

You say that like you know for sure there's an SK...

If I'm understanding the deaths right there is one.

[Galzria]

@Jake

And why ash and gkrieg?

Still want this answered.

Oh sorry. I felt gkrieg was being sorta different on D1 which was why I did him. I originally chose Faust N2 but later changed it to ashersky later on because I was checking to see if he was the sk.

You say that like you know for sure there's an SK...

Are you suggesting that his using SK doesn't provide for differentiation between SK and WW? Because there is certainly one or the other:

"Setup

This game includes 5 Mafia, 17 Townies, and 1 Odd-Night Bulletproof Serial Killer. The Serial Killer is automatically Odd-Night Bulletproof, regardless of whether the SK receives an additional PR from the slots. This causes the Serial Killer to survive a night kill on odd-numbered nights".

Seems a silly thing to call him on. I think most people use them interchangeably until we know for certain which is in the game.

[pingpongsam]

Way back when I revealed my role I claimed I shot straight for it in Slot 2. I was #15 in the draft position.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Way back when I revealed my role I claimed I shot straight for it in Slot 2. I was #15 in the draft position.

Lol

[Dylan32]

Ok, since I'm not sure how much I'll be able to be on later today (maybe a lot, maybe almost none), I'll go ahead and go rather than waiting for Jimmmmm.

To repeat, VT, bid #8.  I bid on slot 13 and did not get it.

Preliminary Vote: e pending official vote count. Don't want to run it up too high before claim is done.  I do think both RR and e are likely scum. That's seems to be the most likely explanation.

[Galzria]

Ok, since I'm not sure how much I'll be able to be on later today (maybe a lot, maybe almost none), I'll go ahead and go rather than waiting for Jimmmmm.

To repeat, VT, bid #8.  I bid on slot 13 and did not get it.

Preliminary Vote: e pending official vote count. Don't want to run it up too high before claim is done.  I do think both RR and e are likely scum. That's seems to be the most likely explanation.

That would mean the winner of slot 13 came from bids #2, #3, #4 or #6 based off current knowledge --- with both 2.7 and RR claiming to have bid on the slot from #19.

[Galzria]

Ok, since I'm not sure how much I'll be able to be on later today (maybe a lot, maybe almost none), I'll go ahead and go rather than waiting for Jimmmmm.

To repeat, VT, bid #8.  I bid on slot 13 and did not get it.

Preliminary Vote: e pending official vote count. Don't want to run it up too high before claim is done.  I do think both RR and e are likely scum. That's seems to be the most likely explanation.

That would mean the winner of slot 13 came from bids #2, #3, #4 or #6 based off current knowledge --- with both 2.7 and RR claiming to have bid on the slot from #19.

Not calling your claim out here - but does anybody from top 6 really go for slot 13? Seems crazy to me.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Ok, since I'm not sure how much I'll be able to be on later today (maybe a lot, maybe almost none), I'll go ahead and go rather than waiting for Jimmmmm.

To repeat, VT, bid #8.  I bid on slot 13 and did not get it.

Preliminary Vote: e pending official vote count. Don't want to run it up too high before claim is done.  I do think both RR and e are likely scum. That's seems to be the most likely explanation.

That would mean the winner of slot 13 came from bids #2, #3, #4 or #6 based off current knowledge --- with both 2.7 and RR claiming to have bid on the slot from #19.

Not calling your claim out here - but does anybody from top 6 really go for slot 13? Seems crazy to me.

I would go for the 13 spot if I had gotten #1. Getting to see 3 roles gives you so much information, you have your pick of roles from multiple slots and I love the random aspect personally.