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[AndrewisFTTW]

Say. Not day. Totally ruined the joke.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Also andrew you should claim. There's a high percent chance you are getting lynched. You are at l-3, l-2 if you count my vote and others are willing to vote you. You would have hit l-1 if we weren't doing his hammer thing.

Not claiming.

[Cuzz]

I would be ok with Dylan, but prefer Andrew. I'm a little uneasy about how hard Andrew is pushing Dylan, though, so I dunno.

Same question I posed to pps to you. Other than twm how do you find galz, the creator of the jreggie wagon who slipped off it, jake, who hasn't done much other than parked a scum read/vote on me for awhile, and Andrew, who is your preferred lynch, townie proponents of this new dylan wagon?

Or we could lynch Cuzz.

I don't think you and faust are quite enough votes.

So smug. And oh so scummy. Dare I day scmuggy?

So weird, that was the name of my terrier as a child.

[faust]

I would prefer to lynch andrew or eevee today. Andrew was voting a confirmed townie yesterday and my town reads of pps/2.7/e were voting him.

Is that why Andrew is the leading wagon? This is crap. Almost everyone voted for a (more or less) confirmed townie on D1; that's not a scum tell.

[faust]

Two reminders. I still don't like the Andrew lynch. I was ready to give town points to anyone who asked "why" but no one has bothered.

Second. I am basically gone starting Friday morning. I will be at work then hitting the road. Access will be very much up in the air and my destination has no internet nor great phone access. If you want me to participate in the lynch it needs to be tomorrow night. So we basically have 24 hours.

Why

Ok.

So here is why I think Andrew is a poor lynch. From what I understand Andrew is considered a good lynch for the following reasons:

1. Tunneling known town members - I don't see this as scummy. Let's actually look at other games and see if that adds up. Looking at M96 where I was mafia with him, he didn't tunnel. He bounced around and more importantly lightly buss. You can't buss someone who ends up being town.
2. Getting into an argument with Cuzz - Cuzz seems like an easy guy to get into an argument with and Andrew I think is slightly more likely to argue than others. That is personality.
3. Buddying me - Andrew and I have been involved with each other for a bit here. I have said this before. We have been partners, he modded a game with me in it and superbly townread each other last game (M98). He can read me and I think I can read him.
4. lurking - when Andrew is scum he posts more often.

People who have been pushing the Andrew wagon are on the suspicious end to me (Cuzz, PPS, Eevee, 2.7, sudgy) I don't know why PPS and Cuzz are getting general passes here. They might not be the best lynches right now, but I am seeing too many people declare them to be town when that isn't based off anything worthy of that read at all.

What it boils down to is that the reasons for the Andrew wagon aren't very good, the people pushing it are suspect and I have a strongish town read coming from someone that is nearly confirmed town and I think I have an above average ability to read him.

That is all.

I'm glad I have at least one of the supposed ICs agreeing with me.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I would prefer to lynch andrew or eevee today. Andrew was voting a confirmed townie yesterday and my town reads of pps/2.7/e were voting him.

Is that why Andrew is the leading wagon? This is crap. Almost everyone voted for a (more or less) confirmed townie on D1; that's not a scum tell.

YES! Guys, faust is killing it this game. Listen to him! (not being sarcastic)

[faust]

The leading wagons are both utter nonsense.

Here's a list of people we should lynch:

Cuzz
Cuzz
Cuzz
sudgy
Eevee
pps

[Cuzz]

unvote

[faust]

There's also a weird sense of urgency here. We still have like 3 days left, right?

[Dylan32]

The leading wagons are both utter nonsense.

Here's a list of people we should lynch:

Cuzz
Cuzz
Cuzz
sudgy
Eevee
pps

I agreed with 2 of those four, so if I'm not supposed to put Andrew any closer to L-1, I'll put my vote back to Vote: sudgy

[Cuzz]

faust why do you want to lynch pps?

[2.71828.....]

There's also a weird sense of urgency here. We still have like 3 days left, right?

Blame TWM for that

[Dylan32]

There's also a weird sense of urgency here. We still have like 3 days left, right?

TWM going VLA very soon, if we want him to be able to coordinate it was gonna have to happen pretty soon.

[mcmcsalot]

The leading wagons are both utter nonsense.

Here's a list of people we should lynch:

Cuzz
Cuzz
Cuzz
sudgy
Eevee
pps

What's the cuzz case snarky mcsnark face. I'll lynch eevee

[Cuzz]

There's also a weird sense of urgency here. We still have like 3 days left, right?

because twm was going to be vla and people wanted him to be part of the lynch

ppe: ditto

[Cuzz]

The leading wagons are both utter nonsense.

Here's a list of people we should lynch:

Cuzz
Cuzz
Cuzz
sudgy
Eevee
pps

What's the cuzz case snarky mcsnark face. I'll lynch eevee

could do that too

[pingpongsam]

I am willing to switch to Dylan. Clearly I am fine with Andrew, too.

Name the people who want to lynch dylan please.

Jake, TWM, and Andrew have expressed explicit interest in it. I'd have to dig some but I know somebody else was on about him earlier.

Oh, yeah, Galzria who is parked there already alongside Andrew

Do you have town reads on these people other than twm?

Nope, I'd be fine lynching Galzria too. Jake, meh, I'm null there.

So all I'm saying is you just said "sure I would switch my vote to that guy who has two people
I also want to lynch already voting for him..."

I would be fine doing galz over andrew, though galz said he's got some utility so maybe give him a night to do something with it.

right. What I'm saying is I am certainly happy voting Andrew but the climate started to shift around and Dylan looked like something the lynch mob was considering and I was fueling the fire by saying i would, in fact, also lynch him if it won't be Andrew. When I was questioned about it I said also Galz because when the HH claim came through I think he tipped his hand.

I prefer Andrew because I've been pushing it since D1 and no one ever goes along with my plans so that would be neat. Also, if he is scum, I would feel majorly vindicated. so it's pretty selfish really. That said, I do think he is more likely to flip scum than not per his behavior.

My biggest gut certainty is on Galzria being scum but I think we can get around to that tomorrow as there is a lot of momentum to sway in a short time to do that one today.

Dylan, I might have to reread but he definitely fit the bill for would lynches and momentum seemed to be moving that way so I confirmed my willingness to switch. I'm just trying to help one go through. There are very few people I wouldn't lynch today, I just have preferences.

hope that clears that up some?

[faust]

faust why do you want to lynch pps?

Nice deflecting.

Anyway pps is too much in the background and too reasonable. Also I think he rather to the whole mcmc/TWM/Awaclus thingy in a scummy manner.

[pingpongsam]

Dylan's insistence we do this thing soon for coordination while being a potential candidate looks really towny to me. I'm feeling better about Andrew but best about Galz.

[faust]

There's also a weird sense of urgency here. We still have like 3 days left, right?

because twm was going to be vla and people wanted him to be part of the lynch

ppe: ditto

Ah. Well, we can just let Awaclus handle it, can't we? I don't think cutting the day short is quite worth it.

[pingpongsam]

faust why do you want to lynch pps?

Nice deflecting.

Anyway pps is too much in the background and too reasonable. Also I think he rather to the whole mcmc/TWM/Awaclus thingy in a scummy manner.

This what Town PR, non RMM, PPS looks like. Plus I've been town for like 8 games in a row, it's starting to affect me in a way I don't play like scum to protect my scum game.

[faust]

In fact I don't see how we need any special townie person for the L-1 vote.

[Cuzz]

faust why do you want to lynch pps?

Nice deflecting.

Anyway pps is too much in the background and too reasonable. Also I think he rather to the whole mcmc/TWM/Awaclus thingy in a scummy manner.

deflecting? you want to lynch me and I'd prefer you didn't. there's not much else to discuss there.

I have a massive townread on pps as I think do others and a null one on you so wanted to hear the reasoning

[faust]

faust why do you want to lynch pps?

Nice deflecting.

Anyway pps is too much in the background and too reasonable. Also I think he rather to the whole mcmc/TWM/Awaclus thingy in a scummy manner.

This what Town PR, non RMM, PPS looks like. Plus I've been town for like 8 games in a row, it's starting to affect me in a way I don't play like scum to protect my scum game.

Hmm, I forgot about your sheeper stuff. That probably means we should not lynch you.

[Cuzz]

pps, thoughts on eevee?