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[O]

Is They Calamita's preferred pronoun or am I misreading Faust? Bio says male.

With the knowledge that it's about Calamitas that looks less scummy because I do think calamitas lurked hard enough to not feel like a PR.

But

I want to vote: Space for that JR vote and for this post:

Cuzz is the one who looks the most partnerish, but you know, the evidence is thin.

I'm not sure Calamitas would do too much forced interaction, since his meta is to have even more of a hard time of D1 than I do. I specifically asked him a question to get him to say something, and because a conversation about claiming and evidence is something I can do much better than a conversation about reads.

I didn't pick up anything alignment-indicative from the way he responded. If his death came from a third-faction shot hoping to hit scum, I think it's a pretty lucky kill. Why wouldn't they go after someone who's more likely to be a PR?

I can perfectly see it coming from Calamitas' partner

is more compelling to me than poking Faust
Vote: Space

Also I think there are good justifications for not NKing Cuzz, Galzria, or me for scum frankly.

[Jimmmmm]

I don't get the argument? Wouldn't a partner of Calamatis' be careful not to say something like that?

[O]

Also I think some of the people townreading me/cuzz/galz are scum sheeping that narrative to later use LaLight's reasoning for a lynch. Frankly I thought that yesterday too, which is why I kept pointing out how odd it is that i'm being so universally townread.

[faust]

Is They Calamita's preferred pronoun or am I misreading Faust? Bio says male.

No; SpaceAnemone goes by they. It was their post I talked about.

[LaLight]

there is also Eevee whom I felt being scummy and it strengthened enough after he jumped off J R wagon, voted for me on a false note, after that he realised he confused things, unvoted me and went for Awaclus. This also is kinda scummy, correct me if I am wrong

PPE: 3

[LaLight]

I don't get the argument? Wouldn't a partner of Calamatis' be careful not to say something like that?

levels and levels

[O]

Is They Calamita's preferred pronoun or am I misreading Faust? Bio says male.

No; SpaceAnemone goes by they. It was their post I talked about.

i've been very bad at reading comprehension recently.


@Lalight

you're wrong, going for Awaclus is not scummy. The wagon stuff was quite uncharacteristic though and scummy. 

[LaLight]

I don't get the argument? Wouldn't a partner of Calamatis' be careful not to say something like that?

levels and levels

Space is smart and concious enough to make this post being Calamitas' partner

[LaLight]

Is They Calamita's preferred pronoun or am I misreading Faust? Bio says male.

No; SpaceAnemone goes by they. It was their post I talked about.

i've been very bad at reading comprehension recently.


@Lalight

you're wrong, going for Awaclus is not scummy. The wagon stuff was quite uncharacteristic though and scummy.

I am not saying voting for Awaclus was scummy. Mostly "going for another may be popular wagon instead of primary one" is scummy, it has nothing to do with Awaclus

[O]

sorry, was slipping banter in with agree with you.

[O]

agree-ing

[LaLight]

sorry, was slipping banter in with agree with you.

I have never seen this word in my life. Cool one

[SpaceAnemone]

Is They Calamita's preferred pronoun or am I misreading Faust? Bio says male.

I think you got the answer to this from faust et al now, but just for the avoidance of all doubt they/them is my preferred pronoun, with she/her as backup. Basically anything other than just giving into the awful patriarchal "default male" nonsense :-)

[SpaceAnemone]

I didn't pick up anything alignment-indicative from the way he responded. If his death came from a third-faction shot hoping to hit scum, I think it's a pretty lucky kill. Why wouldn't they go after someone who's more likely to be a PR?

This is a scummy post. Apparently Space has thought a fair bit about who is and isn't likely to be a PR.

See this from back in D1:

I think who has PRs and doesn't is irrelevant to who is scum and town, considering we got the order before we were given alignments.

If we have a werewolf faction, then the second of them will have been drawn from a player who would otherwise have been a VT. It's quite an interesting mechanism from a design point of view, because it makes those of us more likely to be VTs (relative newbies other than people like LL who've read everything) fractionally more likely to be scum from the perspective of every other player who knows nothing about what happened with the bidding in slot 8.

(bolding added now)

I think the bias with Robz's ranking algorithm would have been be pretty clear to any new-ish people playing, so I didn't see the point of not saying anything about it.

[faust]

I'm not a fan of the way Eevee abandoned the J Reggie wagon. Scum would definitely want the Reggie wagon to die after the claim.

[faust]

O is also guilty of this.

[SpaceAnemone]

I don't get the argument? Wouldn't a partner of Calamatis' be careful not to say something like that?

levels and levels

Space is smart and concious enough to make this post being Calamitas' partner

Hey, you (and maybe faust, but definitely you!) should know me well enough to understand that me addressing a point or two to Calamitas about something setuppy when he and I are both clearly struggling to engage with the wild reads party of D1 is not unusual in the slightest. I think if I'd been part of a scum faction, the smart thing would have been to keep my inferences quiet.

[LaLight]

I don't get the argument? Wouldn't a partner of Calamatis' be careful not to say something like that?

levels and levels

Space is smart and concious enough to make this post being Calamitas' partner

Hey, you (and maybe faust, but definitely you!) should know me well enough to understand that me addressing a point or two to Calamitas about something setuppy when he and I are both clearly struggling to engage with the wild reads party of D1 is not unusual in the slightest. I think if I'd been part of a scum faction, the smart thing would have been to keep my inferences quiet.

And it's a good thing you know this because this means you can easily imitate it

[LaLight]

I'm not a fan of the way Eevee abandoned the J Reggie wagon. Scum would definitely want the Reggie wagon to die after the claim.

hey I said this first

[pingpongsam]

Also I think some of the people townreading me/cuzz/galz are scum sheeping that narrative to later use LaLight's reasoning for a lynch. Frankly I thought that yesterday too, which is why I kept pointing out how odd it is that i'm being so universally townread.

Huh? I'm asking because I'm townreading 2 of the 3 and would vote LaLight and want to know why that makes me scum.

[mcmcsalot]

sorry, was slipping banter in with agree with you.

I have never seen this word in my life. Cool one

It means joking around but with a "making fun of" connotation. Like if you are teasing someone but the intent is to have them tease you back, not to hurt anyone's feelings.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Basically, Calamitas and TWM seemed to notice each other more than others did.  I know it's not terribly useful info, but I feel like it's something.  I still find TWM to be scummy, so Vote: The_Wine_Merchant for now.

I dunno. You point at two interactions, which is definitely more than average, but there are other people that Calamitas interacted with more. The first is just Calamitas clutching to setup and PR discussions (as usual), and for the second post, TWMs post is the post post after Calamitas asks that, so it's kinda natural that he would respond. Both these things seem very weak evidence to me and this looks more like confirmation bias.

Ding!

Now the question is whether it is actually confirmation bias or sudgy trying to push a mislynch here.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I am not feeling the Andrew wagon. gkrieg was significantly different yesterday and I had a question mark next to him in my QT, so I see where Andrew's vote was coming from.

At the least I think we can say Andrew and ash aren't scum partners. As I think they would have argued against a gkrieg NK.

The vast vast majority of pairs of people in this game are not scum partners.

Yes. Thanks. I too can math. But I would say these two have a higher chance. And I think that is worth pointing out for the future. It might not help us decide whom to lynch now, but is still something worthwhile.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Also. I will be gone for deadline.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

His first post with his reasoning for voting TWM seem like town reasons that are trying to try.  It isn't a good case (because really what could you breadcrumb in this setup), but it does look genuine.

I really don't see the case here.

Well seeing as I also agree completely with this I have to start town reading you more. I think sudgy has acted very much the way I expect sudgy to act with the amount of participation he has had.

I guess there wasn't a strong read on sudgy or I am misremembering someone else. But I think this was the post that made me think I wouldn't vote for sudgy given a stronger townread on mcmc at this point. That said, mcmc could you expound on this a bit? Because I felt as I went through sudgy's posts and combined with how he decided to reread Calamatis and conveniently only found the posts that already confirmed a scumread on me, I want to vote him.