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[mcmcsalot]

Okay so I don't care if I'm going to get crap. We should soft deadline ourselves. This is going to be insane if it continues till the real deadline. I'm not trying to cut things short but it's Day 1 and there lots of conversations that I don't think are being. Helpful.

Best way to do that is get bigger wagons. So back to vote: mcmc

You were already back on me. Remember your biased and think everything I do is scummy so you are already voting me.

I went to Awaclus for a bit.

Oh okay, well that wasn't a great vote either and you've also seen scum me use awaclus' playstyle to derail a day.

[gkrieg13]

I'm pretty null on o right now. I'm not sure where these town reads are coming from.

1. activity 2. scum are plotting something involving lynching me a later day by finding me overly innocent today, i can taste it.

actually that's a pretty contrived and over the top scum plot and probably isnt the case.

Especially over the top when most people don't know you

[LaLight]

I mean it was just to show that I'm more invested in this game than I normally am at this stage in a game.

Ok.

[Cuzz]

I was already thinking mcmc and TWM were scum partners and then mcmc scumslipped. So yeah.

Please please give a quote if you're going to allege a scumslip which is barely ever even a thing.

It's a giant wall of text and I'm on mobile, but he implied that they've had more than one game as mafia together. I haven't actually been paying much attention to recent games, but is that true? And I'd like to see mcmc's response to this.

This is really weak. Come back to this when you can give a real quote.

[J Reggie]

It's probably just confirmation bias anyway.

Who here has played with o before?

[J Reggie]

But seriously, does anyone see this as an elaborate bus between TWM and mcmc?

[mcmcsalot]

I was already thinking mcmc and TWM were scum partners and then mcmc scumslipped. So yeah.

Please please give a quote if you're going to allege a scumslip which is barely ever even a thing.

It's a giant wall of text and I'm on mobile, but he implied that they've had more than one game as mafia together. I haven't actually been paying much attention to recent games, but is that true? And I'd like to see mcmc's response to this.

Yes I said that I'm sorry I meant it was twm's first game as mafia and we were mafia together. We have not been mafia together since.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Then there was this interaction which I find twm trying to come up with a reason to vote jreggie, he classically didn't outright call jreggie scummy, just suspicious. (This is something I told twm to do in our first mafia game together, let townies enhance your case for you)

This quote JReggie?

If so. BLAH!

[pingpongsam]

I'm immediately suspicious of those who are all like, "I'm totally down with lynching so and so today", as if we have progressed far enough to feel real good about them being scum or, better yet, that flipping them will corner scum.

Unfortunately, that's a wide pool of laziness so I can't draw any meaningful conclusions from it.

Now, for Andrew, please tell me, in your own words, why you think I should think you are town this game and not badass scum coming to getcha like every other game in recent memory?

Because in no game ever am I badass scum, I just got lucky for a couple games.

That's a lie provable lie considering you're MVP.

I told myself that if I got a legitimate attempt he's probably town but a dismissive denial of his abilities deserved a Vote: Andrew

[J Reggie]

Then there was this interaction which I find twm trying to come up with a reason to vote jreggie, he classically didn't outright call jreggie scummy, just suspicious. (This is something I told twm to do in our first mafia game together, let townies enhance your case for you)

This quote JReggie?

If so. BLAH!

Yes that one.

[O]

Okay so I don't care if I'm going to get crap. We should soft deadline ourselves. This is going to be insane if it continues till the real deadline. I'm not trying to cut things short but it's Day 1 and there lots of conversations that I don't think are being. Helpful.

What kind of soft deadline do you mean?

I mean giving ourselves like two more days and saying we have to lynch by then. That way it forces lurkers to catch-up, they know there wont be 90 more pages to d1, and we can start having discusioins with results.

Well, the ability is only for the night-after. So we could have people claim to not be Hammer Hero, designate them to do the hammer, and then find it super scummy if we get a lot of extra deaths that night.

At the same time mafia can have 2-shot vig and frame someone this way. So I'm not claiming I have it case-bashed out, just saying there's potential.

@Jreggie Eevee, Galzria, Cuzz, Pingpongsam, Ashersky...?

[mcmcsalot]

But seriously, does anyone see this as an elaborate bus between TWM and mcmc?

You can look into I believe I have never ever bussed in my entire career of mafia. I may have done it once. Bussing is never ever ever a good option for scum in my opinion. That is well documented

[J Reggie]

I was already thinking mcmc and TWM were scum partners and then mcmc scumslipped. So yeah.

Please please give a quote if you're going to allege a scumslip which is barely ever even a thing.

It's a giant wall of text and I'm on mobile, but he implied that they've had more than one game as mafia together. I haven't actually been paying much attention to recent games, but is that true? And I'd like to see mcmc's response to this.

Yes I said that I'm sorry I meant it was twm's first game as mafia and we were mafia together. We have not been mafia together since.

Actually this response is more scummy than I was expecting.

[O]

Bussing is never ever ever a good option for scum in my opinion. That is well documented

strongly disagree

[J Reggie]

But seriously, does anyone see this as an elaborate bus between TWM and mcmc?

You can look into I believe I have never ever bussed in my entire career of mafia. I may have done it once. Bussing is never ever ever a good option for scum in my opinion. That is well documented

But this is basically the same argument ash gave after bussing me in gravity falls and it totally worked.

[pingpongsam]

is mcmcmc always this serious-yet-undevoted to these wagons he tries to create?

yes, he likes multiple lines in the water and will switch between them

[Awaclus]

Well, people here may justify scumread on you based on some of your posts. Look at Awaclus for one. I'd call it "easy wagon". Because any of us actually may reread you and call you scummy afterwards, but thing is that overall you're very townie and any townie understands that but out of context you may seem very scummy

Man, context doesn't matter. Small details is how you catch scum.

[Cuzz]

But seriously, does anyone see this as an elaborate bus between TWM and mcmc?

You can look into I believe I have never ever bussed in my entire career of mafia. I may have done it once. Bussing is never ever ever a good option for scum in my opinion. That is well documented

This can't be true.

[mcmcsalot]

Again O, I think hammer hero discussion are waaay better saved for tommorow. Stop changing the topic away from scumhunting to role stuff. It clogs us down.

[Awaclus]

@LaLight

Are you honestly saying Awaclus is voting for me because he finds me scummy? Let's call a spade a spade here, it's what he would want anyways.

Yes, I genuinely believe this is the only way to scumhunt that gives you a better chance of success than full random.

[pingpongsam]

Bussing is never ever ever a good option for scum in my opinion. That is well documented

strongly disagree

strongly concur

[Cuzz]

Again O, I think hammer hero discussion are waaay better saved for tommorow. Stop changing the topic away from scumhunting to role stuff. It clogs us down.

I bet if you ask him again it'll stick this time.

[pingpongsam]

The game with Andrew that has me convinced he is the boogie man had bussing as the central strategy.

[Awaclus]

I accept that you've played with him more but I still strongly disagree with your read of him as a person, using my own similar past actions as a reference.

However, I'm not your past self.

[O]

Bussing is never ever ever a good option for scum in my opinion. That is well documented

strongly disagree

hey look i'm coaching mcmc

tho actually mcmc saying this looks really scummy

and now I'm bussing mcmc after saying i disagree that bussing mcmc's a bad strategy