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[O]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

[J Reggie]

Good God people. You don't need to take a stand on whether we are going to mass claim. We aren't. You don't need to chime in on it. What we should talk about is what other roles out there might be worth claiming in isolation now or later and how we can best use them to our advantage. Or maybe we shouldn't talk about that. But we can at least talk about talking about it.

Seriously no one has ever suggested mass claiming (except PPS I guess off-offhandedly) so it shouldn't warrant dozens of posts about it and no one should be getting towncred for being against it.

These roles should claim immediately: investigation immune, JOAT, godfatherer, Ninja, convert SK to werewolf.

[gkrieg13]

Except for those listed by J Reggie, I don't think anyone should be claiming anything.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Good God people. You don't need to take a stand on whether we are going to mass claim. We aren't. You don't need to chime in on it. What we should talk about is what other roles out there might be worth claiming in isolation now or later and how we can best use them to our advantage. Or maybe we shouldn't talk about that. But we can at least talk about talking about it.

Seriously no one has ever suggested mass claiming (except PPS I guess off-offhandedly) so it shouldn't warrant dozens of posts about it and no one should be getting towncred for being against it.

These roles should claim immediately: investigation immune, JOAT, godfatherer, Ninja, convert SK to werewolf.

You are so, oh so, very helpful. If I were a vig. I would vig you.

[J Reggie]

Good God people. You don't need to take a stand on whether we are going to mass claim. We aren't. You don't need to chime in on it. What we should talk about is what other roles out there might be worth claiming in isolation now or later and how we can best use them to our advantage. Or maybe we shouldn't talk about that. But we can at least talk about talking about it.

Seriously no one has ever suggested mass claiming (except PPS I guess off-offhandedly) so it shouldn't warrant dozens of posts about it and no one should be getting towncred for being against it.

These roles should claim immediately: investigation immune, JOAT, godfatherer, Ninja, convert SK to werewolf.

You are so, oh so, very helpful. If I were a vig. I would vig you.

Well I wanted to say nobody should claim, but I realized those ones would be very helpful.

[J Reggie]

We could claim our flavor names.

[O]

We could claim our flavor names.

?


either this is a joke or i learned something very interesting

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

We could claim our flavor names.

Vote: J Reggie

[gkrieg13]

We could claim our flavor names.

Ok, now you're just being silly.

[J Reggie]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

I think that would be less useful than it's worth. Also an easy way for scum to seem towny without actually doing anything.

[gkrieg13]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

I think that would be less useful than it's worth. Also an easy way for scum to seem towny without actually doing anything.

I think it would actually be 0% useful.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

We could claim our flavor names.

?


either this is a joke or i learned something very interesting

Same

[J Reggie]

vote: The_Wine_Merchant

Serious vote.

Is anybody else no longer able to automatically bold on mobile?

[Cuzz]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

There is a chance we don't have either of these roles.

[J Reggie]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

There is a chance we don't have either of these roles.

A very small chance.

[O]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

I think that would be less useful than it's worth. Also an easy way for scum to seem towny without actually doing anything.

I disagree on both fronts. Massclaims are bad, but overall scum will already be able to suss out a lot of information that town won't: the mafia team has 5 people with different survey results to compare and contrast drafting roles for. Town can try and bridge that information gap. For the second point Scum are likely to try and avoid implanting their own information, which can lead to slips. Why would RVS banter have a better rate of scum not seeming towny. I just don't get it.

[Cuzz]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

There is a chance we don't have either of these roles.

A very small chance.

Small, but maybe not very small.

[J Reggie]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

I think that would be less useful than it's worth. Also an easy way for scum to seem towny without actually doing anything.

I disagree on both fronts. Massclaims are bad, but overall scum will already be able to suss out a lot of information that town won't: the mafia team has 5 people with different survey results to compare and contrast drafting roles for. Town can try and bridge that information gap. For the second point Scum are likely to try and avoid implanting their own information, which can lead to slips. Why would RVS banter have a better rate of scum not seeming towny. I just don't get it.

It's very easy for scum to talk about things that happened before the game started without seeming scummy, as they weren't scum then.

[ashersky]

Innocent Child? We don't appear to have one? How worried should we be about mafia with a 2-shot vig?

vote: twm

[O]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

There is a chance we don't have either of these roles.

A very small chance.

Small, but maybe not very small.

agreed. there are plenty of reasons for #1 draft to snag a lower role (especially if town), and there's very little reason to throw a non-#1 draft vote at the most desirable slot.

I'd still put it at 85-15.

[O]

massclaim is boring. bad. donezo.

Should we try and suss out the Investigation Immune/2Shot vig?

Should we discuss the likely distribution of roles among more/less experienced players?

I think that would be less useful than it's worth. Also an easy way for scum to seem towny without actually doing anything.

I disagree on both fronts. Massclaims are bad, but overall scum will already be able to suss out a lot of information that town won't: the mafia team has 5 people with different survey results to compare and contrast drafting roles for. Town can try and bridge that information gap. For the second point Scum are likely to try and avoid implanting their own information, which can lead to slips. Why would RVS banter have a better rate of scum not seeming towny. I just don't get it.

It's very easy for scum to talk about things that happened before the game started without seeming scummy, as they weren't scum then.

and?

it's very easy for scum to randomly make accusations day 1 without seeming scummy.

At least talking about roles they have a desire to obfuscate their own information they have.

[ashersky]

Forgot how fast big games can fill pages.  Reminds me of that giant Robz game about Gardens.

O is towny; gkrieg, mcmc, TWM all scummy.  And Faust, because how has he not posted?

[ashersky]

Also, town on Cuzz because chicken chicken.

[ashersky]

Exactly one VT should claim.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 1.1

LaLight (1): SpaceAnemone,
Galzria (1): iguanaiguana
mcmcsalot (2): 2.71828..., The_Wine_Merchant
2.71828 (1): AndrewisFTTW
pingpongsam (1): gkrieg
ashersky (2): Cuzz, LaLight
gkrieg (1): mcmcsalot
Cuzz (1): Eevee
JaketheBaseballGod22 (1): Dylan32
J Reggie (1): JaketheBaseballGod22
The_Wine_Merchant (2): J Reggie, ashersky

Not Voting (9): Galzria, Calamitas, faust, Awaclus, pingpongsam, RoadRunner, Jimmmm, O, sudgy,

With 23 alive it takes just 10 to lynch. Day 1 ends on Tuesday, May 23, at 10:00 AM Forum Time.