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[gkrieg13]

I will once again say that the fact that we have so many VTs makes it so this whole massclaim thing is kinda silly this early on.

I think you are the only one talking about a mass claim. The rest of us (or at least me, maybe I am talking to myself?) are talking about how to go about with other claims that might be worthwhile in isolation.

Well then I started thinking that a mass claim is probably better than this claiming in isolation thingy you guys are proposing.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

It's a cool line of thinking by O and TWM, but LL having recently read all the games doesn't necessarily make him that much more likely to be able to determine who are the players others hold in the highest regard. Most people have never divulged their thoughts on the matter.

It is relevant because he might have guessed correctly which game was the most fun. That was the high point generator. Not how people view each other. Compared to that, it was pennies.

I think there were more people that were newer than older, so I'm not sure the older people had the most votes on the best game.

Huh?

Since more newer people are around, a more recent game was the likely winner, so the old people probably weren't right on it.

But LaLight isn't an old-timer.

[Cuzz]

I will once again say that the fact that we have so many VTs makes it so this whole massclaim thing is kinda silly this early on.

I think you are the only one talking about a mass claim. The rest of us (or at least me, maybe I am talking to myself?) are talking about how to go about with other claims that might be worthwhile in isolation.

pps was definitely talking about a massclaim also

[Eevee]

I have a feeling this is a game you should really avoid falling behind on.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

This O guy might not be town, but he probably is. But he is basically thinking all the things I am! So I like him!

[Cuzz]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

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[O]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

This O guy might not be town, but he probably is. But he is basically thinking all the things I am! So I like him!

when you do this and then flip scum it implicates me, you know.

[gkrieg13]

Thinking about it more, I don't like a massclaim.  I actually won't say why, because I think it would help scum, but ya.  No massclaim.

[gkrieg13]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

This O guy might not be town, but he probably is. But he is basically thinking all the things I am! So I like him!

when you do this and then flip scum it implicates me, you know.

So it's scummy for TWM than?  What if he flips town?

[mcmcsalot]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

We're clearly not in rvs...we can't even vote for robz, he's the mod!

Also I don't think your speculation helps anyone but scum. For example unless you lied they now know not to shoot you because you didn't draft first. i have more thoughts on the matter but I'm not going to say them because I'm not going to let you bait me into revealing little things about the draft. This is why I advised against this early on.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Thinking about it more, I don't like a massclaim.  I actually won't say why, because I think it would help scum, but ya.  No massclaim.

oy vey.

[mcmcsalot]

Thinking about it more, I don't like a massclaim.  I actually won't say why, because I think it would help scum, but ya.  No massclaim.

Gkrieg gets it. unvote

[Dylan32]

I really don't think I like a straight mass claim now. [redacted]

PPE 3. I almost posted my reasoning, but gkrieg makes a good point, so I will withhold my reason. I do think a massclaim on D1 at least would be better for scum than town though.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

This O guy might not be town, but he probably is. But he is basically thinking all the things I am! So I like him!

when you do this and then flip scum it implicates me, you know.

Good thing I am not scum.

Unless I am, then my plan is working. Now how to get lynched real quick?

[Dylan32]

Should have changed that to PPE 6, it was 3, I changed my post, then 3 more

[mcmcsalot]

I have a feeling this is a game you should really avoid falling behind on.

Hahaha anyone wanna start an over under on how many players say "sorry guys I'm like lots of pages behind someone tell me where to place my vote"

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Thinking about it more, I don't like a massclaim.  I actually won't say why, because I think it would help scum, but ya.  No massclaim.

Gkrieg gets it. unvote

Get's what everyone else already gets?

vote: mcmcsalot

[Dylan32]

I have a feeling this is a game you should really avoid falling behind on.

Hahaha anyone wanna start an over under on how many players say "sorry guys I'm like lots of pages behind someone tell me where to place my vote"

Over/under is at 24.5

[J Reggie]

Yeah, mass claim this early is always bad in a well-balanced game.

Do we think that alignments are based on draft numbers as well?

[O]

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Reply: In my opinion, massclaim = bad. But the discussion might overall be protown independently, and is definitely not just RVS discussion which is inherently nice.

We're clearly not in rvs...we can't even vote for robz, he's the mod!

Also I don't think your speculation helps anyone but scum. For example unless you lied they now know not to shoot you because you didn't draft first. i have more thoughts on the matter but I'm not going to say them because I'm not going to let you bait me into revealing little things about the draft. This is why I advised against this early on.

They should have been able to figure that out regardless.

Why would I be able to guess the most fun game? My math skills tells me there's a 1/99 chance of that happening, and that scum would not take that bet.

Unless we're assuming scum is slightly dimwitted and doesn't know that someone who hasn't been in the last 90 mafias is up to date.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I think a mass claim here is a bad idea but personally I reallllyyy want one because there so much fun.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Good God people. You don't need to take a stand on whether we are going to mass claim. We aren't. You don't need to chime in on it. What we should talk about is what other roles out there might be worth claiming in isolation now or later and how we can best use them to our advantage. Or maybe we shouldn't talk about that. But we can at least talk about talking about it.

Seriously no one has ever suggested mass claiming (except PPS I guess off-offhandedly) so it shouldn't warrant dozens of posts about it and no one should be getting towncred for being against it.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Yeah, mass claim this early is always bad in a well-balanced game.

Do we think that alignments are based on draft numbers as well?

No

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Yeah, mass claim this early is always bad in a well-balanced game.

Do we think that alignments are based on draft numbers as well?

No

I think they could potentially be. Robz said he would reroll if the setup was bad. So mafia, for an extreme example, isn't going to be the last 5 slots. That wouldn't be balanced.

[pingpongsam]

I will once again say that the fact that we have so many VTs makes it so this whole massclaim thing is kinda silly this early on.

I think you are the only one talking about a mass claim. The rest of us (or at least me, maybe I am talking to myself?) are talking about how to go about with other claims that might be worthwhile in isolation.

pps was definitely talking about a massclaim also

Not really, I just prompted people to talk about it. What, exactly, do you think I have said about it?

Anybody who knows anything about PPS knows he's never, ever, been in favor of.