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[Chris is me]

I also hear the card corners will be less rounded.

I really doubt they would make a change that would mark cards as being from one set or the other. Considering they have said they can't change the backs.

[Seprix]

I think Empires has hints as to what won't make it. Keep in mind the rulebook mentions Intrigue 2nd Edition, so the recommended Kingdoms were likely made with this in mind. With that said, Harem and Mining Village are used, so I don't think they are out. Also Pawn and Torturer are used as well.

We also probably won't be saying goodbye to Bureaucrat and Cellar, but Chapel isn't in there...

I guess Chapel is that one card that we'll be using anyways after Donald ditches it!

[Witherweaver]

I also hear the card corners will be less rounded.

I really doubt they would make a change that would mark cards as being from one set or the other. Considering they have said they can't change the backs.

It was a joke about Magic Alpha -> Beta :/

[werothegreat]

I think Empires has hints as to what won't make it. Keep in mind the rulebook mentions Intrigue 2nd Edition, so the recommended Kingdoms were likely made with this in mind. With that said, Harem and Mining Village are used, so I don't think they are out. Also Pawn and Torturer are used as well.

I wonder if new printings of later sets will get their Recommended kingdoms revised as well.

[Jacob marley]

So one question I'd like to be clear on.  If I get the Base Update only, I will not be getting the trash mat or reworded Mine, Throne Room or Moneylender?

Thanks

[J Reggie]

So one question I'd like to be clear on.  If I get the Base Update only, I will not be getting the trash mat or reworded Mine, Throne Room or Moneylender?

Thanks

Correct

[Witherweaver]

So I guess the big question is do you get both full sets out just the update packs. I'm leaning towards the full sets because I'm a nerd.

The real question is, do I go out and buy first edition Intrigue while I still can, or let the chance to own Scout slip forever through my fingers?

Buy it, don't unwrap it.  Will be worth huge moneys.

[Awaclus]

So I guess the big question is do you get both full sets out just the update packs. I'm leaning towards the full sets because I'm a nerd.

The real question is, do I go out and buy first edition Intrigue while I still can, or let the chance to own Scout slip forever through my fingers?

Buy it, don't unwrap it.  Will be worth huge moneys.

You'll get $4 for each Scout.

[ThetaSigma12]

Card predictions:

Base:
#1
Action
+1 Card
+2 Actions
Gain a card costing up to and an Estate.

#2
Action
+2 Cards
+1 Buy
Each other player discards the top card of their deck than puts a Victory from their discard pile onto thier deck.

#3
Gain a card costing up to and an Copper, putting the Copper into your hand.

#4
Action
+1 Card
+
You may play a (#4) from your hand.

[LastFootnote]

-An optional one shot, but without the tracking issues. A lot of Enterprise could make it into intruige with some changes.
-A card that cares about copper. Probably not as an attack, but a copper gainer would be cool and maybe having it in intuige would help Coppersmith.

I actually suggested Clerk for Intrigue, but it ended up in Empires instead (as Settlers).

[Kirian]

Yikes, that King is rocking the fancy white hair! Is that the child of Milo Yiannopoulos and Boris Johnson!?

Given the codpiece and collar, I think it's more a combination of David Bowie and the Twins from the Matrix.

[Awaclus]

Card predictions:

The Variants and Fan Cards forum is over here.

[trivialknot]

Question: will the new cards be completely different, or will they be "improved" versions of the old cards?  Given the replaced cards and the replacing cards, could I match them up one-to-one and say, "now this one is the new Scout!"?

[LastFootnote]

Question: will the new cards be completely different, or will they be "improved" versions of the old cards?  Given the replaced cards and the replacing cards, could I match them up one-to-one and say, "now this one is the new Scout!"?

From BGG:

A few of the new cards are based on removed cards, and the rest are just trying to be good new cards appropriate for Dominion or Intrigue.

[arcee]

Hopefully the update packs are easy to get in Canada!

I think I'll apply errata with stickers to my binder pockets, so when a card is taken out I can remind the players.

[markusin]

Hopefully the update packs are easy to get in Canada!

I think I'll apply errata with stickers to my binder pockets, so when a card is taken out I can remind the players.

Yes, I am also in Canada and would buy the update packs on the spot.

[Donald X.]

Maybe the card "you can't believe [Donald] took out" is Chapel.

The card you can't believe I took out varies from person to person. The context was someone asking if I recommended no longer playing with the removed cards. Myself, I am no longer playing with them. But any given person will have whatever card they wouldn't have removed, and well you don't have to remove it.

[J Reggie]

Maybe the card "you can't believe [Donald] took out" is Chapel.

The card you can't believe I took out varies from person to person. The context was someone asking if I recommended no longer playing with the removed cards. Myself, I am no longer playing with them. But any given person will have whatever card they wouldn't have removed, and well you don't have to remove it.

That's what I was thinking. But it would be funny if you had removed a much beloved card. And by funny I mean odd.

[drsteelhammer]

Are we still waiting for BGGRGG to allow Jay to post the cards there or did another issue come up?

[Watno]

Where did he say he was waiting for that? The only thing I see is this: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/23765006#23765006, where he says that he can't post it to the RGG website atm.

[drsteelhammer]

Where did he say he was waiting for that? The only thing I see is this: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/23765006#23765006, where he says that he can't post it to the RGG website atm.

my mistake, wrong website.

[ThetaSigma12]

I'm checking RGG like every 30 minutes. I should really get some help...

[GendoIkari]

I just now saw this, and haven't read any of the replies yet, so I'm sure that this has been said already....

NO MORE MASQ PINS!! 

I know that a lot of people will like them, but as someone who really likes "alternate win conditions", I think a setup that allows a Masq pin makes for a fun game.

Now there's a separate question about if old cards are considered to have errata or not. If my physical Throne Room doesn't say "you may", should I still play as if it did to be fully following the rules of Dominion? Similar to how MTG has the Oracle card wordings, and what's printed on the card doesn't matter? (Unless you have R&D's Secret Lair in play, of course).

[Watno]

Well, he said he was hoping for it to be fixed by tonight, so I guess it's reasonable to assume it isn't.

Also, I just realized I haven't ever played a game where someone got pinned. I guess I'm missing out on that

[Jimmmmm]

For those who like numbers, getting rid of the worst 6 cards out of 25 improves about 85% of Base-only games (ie 85% of games have at least one of these cards).