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[aku_chi]

It may not look like it, but I can end the game here.  How do I do it?  How do I maximize points?  Try it out with Game #7548391, Decision 141.



The maximum I've managed to get is 64 total VP.

[Jfrisch]

Kings court kings court

expand fortress, gaining a kings courtm an expand, and a gear,

then use gear to draw all of them iterating (you don't need to gear every turn), you can gain close to infinite points by also gaining bishops and eventually bishoping your fortresses as much as you can.

[Dingan]

Pulled this one out of the hat



EDIT: I think this was the first Fountain game where I went 7 Coppers -> 0 Coppers -> 10 Coppers

[ThetaSigma12]

Play Mint gaining Copper, call Royal Carriage x3 to gain 3 more Coppers.
Play Merchants and Village to draw the 4 coppers.
Play Catapult trashing Minstrel to give a Curse, and Nomad Camp.
Buy Copper + Dominate bringing it to 30/42
Play the 6 HoP to gain 6 Duchies, winning 48/42.

[Seprix]

It may not look like it, but I can end the game here.  How do I do it?  How do I maximize points?  Try it out with Game #7548391, Decision 141.

The maximum I've managed to get is 64 total VP.

Weirdly enough, I cannot access that gamestate. I can play the game but Decision 141 does not work in the slightest, it infinitely loads 

[Seprix]

This is a slightly harder one. Put on your thinking caps.

[faust]

Play Stonemason trashing Silver for 2 Stonemasons. This guarantees 2 cards in your discard.
Play 2 Mills, discarding Estate/Random card (removing the -1$ token) you drew and Copper/random card you drew.
Play 2 Copper for $5 total.
Buy Messenger gaining Bridge Troll (opponent gains Bridge Troll).
Buy SM overpaying 1$ for 2 extra SMs.

[Awaclus]

You could alternatively

play the Mill to draw the Bridge Troll, Stonemason the Bridge Troll into two Wandering Minstrels, play the other Mill to draw a WM and discard WM+Estate for $2, then you can buy a Messenger to empty the Bridge Trolls and a WM to empty the WMs.

[navical]

Play Mill to draw Bridge Troll, play Stonemason trashing Bridge Troll for Wandering Minstrel and Stonemason, play Mill discarding Estate + drawn card to get you to $1, play 3 Copper and 1 Silver to get you to $6.
Buy Stonemason overpaying 3 for 2 Wandering Minstrels, Stonemason overpaying 1 for 2 Stonemasons.

[Seprix]

You could alternatively

play the Mill to draw the Bridge Troll, Stonemason the Bridge Troll into two Wandering Minstrels, play the other Mill to draw a WM and discard WM+Estate for $2, then you can buy a Messenger to empty the Bridge Trolls and a WM to empty the WMs.

Play Mill to draw Bridge Troll, play Stonemason trashing Bridge Troll for Wandering Minstrel and Stonemason, play Mill discarding Estate + drawn card to get you to $1, play 3 Copper and 1 Silver to get you to $6.
Buy Stonemason overpaying 3 for 2 Wandering Minstrels, Stonemason overpaying 1 for 2 Stonemasons.

Drawing the Bridge Troll is not guaranteed and thus not a solution. I apologize, there's way more cards than one in the discard.

[Dingan]

So here's something. Of the 23 Kingdoms posted in this topic, below are the cards or events that showed up most frequently in them.

Card/Event	Number of Kingdoms
Stonemason	6
Village	6
Moneylender	5
Horn of Plenty	5
Remodel	4
Mountebank	4
Magpie	4
Laboratory	4
Artisan	4
Smithy	3
Poacher	3
Market	3
Lost Arts	3
Fortress	3
Festival	3
Expand	3
Chapel	3
Butcher	3
Bridge Troll	3
Ball	3
37 other cards/events	2
103 other cards/events	1

I didn't include Landmarks (which certainly affect endgame scenarios), cus uhh just didn't want to.
The thread was made before Nocturne and Empires, and even game logs from way long ago were posted.
Several games were Base-only or heavily-Base, which might explain Village, Moneylender, etc.

==> My main takeaway:
Stonemason and HoP are the pile kings and make endgame scenarios difficult (or, rather, make game worthy of posting here).

[jonaskoelker]

It's my turn. I have a forced win from here.

Workshop a Silver. Draw it with 2xWorker's Village. Remodel Gold into Province, play 4xSilver, buy the last Province, win 25-21.

Here's a forced win:

[navical]

Play FV. Governor remodel Copper->CSM, topdecking with Watchtower. Hand is WT-WT-Gold-Prov-Bishop, so playing WT draws CSM. You still have an action, so play CSM. You have 3 buys, plenty of coins to buy 3 CSMs to pile them out, and a points lead.

[Titandrake]

Here's a neat one from a match I played 11 days ago.



There's actually a lot of leeway here, but you can guarantee a win even if you only produce enough money to buy 2 Provinces.

Your last 2 cards aren't necessary - assume they're blank.

[navical]

Observe that LR currently has the only Spoils not in the Spoils pile.

Stonemason Gold -> 2x Bandit Camp.
Play City Quarter to draw everything.
Play 2x Bandit Camp, gaining 2 Spoils.
Play 5x Forager trashing Graverobber, Wishing Well, City Quarter, 2x Copper = $20.
Play 3x Gold, 1x Copper, 2x Treasure Trove, gaining 2x Gold, 2x Copper = $34.
Pay off debt, $31. Buy 2x Province, 3x Duchy.

You have as many Golds and Coppers as you started with, and 2 more Spoils; that means LR is on at most 43 points, while you have at least 21 + 21 + 5 = 47 points.

You can do better than this by counting Keep points on other Treasures (how much better depends on exactly what's in your draw pile) but all that matters is the win

[aku_chi]

I'm having a difficult time making sense of the point totals.  My best guess is that your opponent has 5 Provinces, 20 Keep points, and is miserable; and you have one Province and 15 Keep points.  There are 5 treasures, which means that two of them are tied.  Your opponent leads in Spoils 4-0.  Your opponent has the only Silver.  You're tied in two of: Treasure Troves, Coppers, and Golds and are winning the other.  I'll assume you need to gain one of each to win all the Keep points.  With these assumptions, it's possible to win without drawing any more cards.

Use Graverobber to gain Treasure Trove from the trash to give the opponent -5 VP.
Use Stonemason to trash Gold and gain 2 Silvers (winning the Silver split, giving your opponent -5 VP and you +5 VP).
Play 5 Foragers trashing 2 City Quarters, a Wishing Well, and 2 Coppers for $20 and +5 buys.
Play two Treasure Troves to get $4 and gain two Copper and two Golds (winning the Gold split and giving the opponent -5 VP).
Play 3 Golds and a Copper for $10.
Pay off 3 Debt and have $31 and 6 buys.  Buy 2 Provinces and 2+ Coppers (winning the Copper split and giving the opponent -5 VP).  You could also buy two Duchies, but it's unnecessary.

At the end:
Your opponent has 5 Provinces, 5 Keep points, and is miserable: 33 VP
You have 3 Provinces, 0-2 Duchies, 20 Keep points: 38-44 VP

[michaeljb]

I'm having a difficult time making sense of the point totals.  My best guess is that your opponent has 5 Provinces, 20 Keep points, and is miserable; and you have one Province and 15 Keep points.  There are 5 treasures, which means that two of them are tied.  Your opponent leads in Spoils 4-0.  Your opponent has the only Silver.  You're tied in two of: Treasure Troves, Coppers, and Golds and are winning the other.  I'll assume you need to gain one of each to win all the Keep points.  With these assumptions, it's possible to win without drawing any more cards.

I'm also using these assumptions, but my solution went a different direction.


Play Stonemason; Gold (net: -1 Gold) --> Graverobber, Stonemason
Play City Quarter, drawing Province, "blank", Graverobber, Stonemason
Play Stonemason; Gold (net: -2 Gold) --> Graverobber, Graverobber
Play City Quarter, drawing Graverobber, Graverobber
Play Graverobber; Graverobber -> Province
Play Graverobber; Graverobber -> Province
Play 4 Foragers, trashing Wishing Well, Copper (net: -1 Copper), Forager, "Blank", for +$16, +4 Buys

Play 2 Golds, 2 Coppers, 2 Treasure Troves for +$12, gaining 2 Golds+Coppers (net: 0 Gold, +1 Copper)

$28, 5 Buys
pay off 3D
$25, 5 Buys

Buys:
Silver, Silver (net: +2)
Gold (net: +1)
Treasure Trove (net: +1)
Duchy

Now you have all the Keep points for Copper, Silver, Gold, Treasure Trove; net +5 VP for you, -15 VP for opponent

Final scores:
21 + 5 + 12 (Provinces) + 3 (Duchy) = 41
48 - 15 = 33


(Edit) Better solution (by which I mean higher score):


play Stonemason; Gold -> Graverobber, Treasure Trove (net treasures: Gold -1, Treasure Trove +1)
play City Quarter, drawing Province, "blank", Graverobber, Trove
play Graverobber; Graverobber -> Province
play 5 Foragers; trash "blank", Wishing Well, City Quarter, 2 Coppers, for +$20, +5 Buys (net Copper -2)
play 3 Gold, 1 Copper for +$10
play 3 Treasure Troves for +$6, gaining 3 Golds and Coppers (net: Gold +2, Treasure Trove +1, Copper +1)
$36, 6 Buys
pay 3D
$33, 6 Buys:
2 Silvers
1 Province
3 Duchies

same Keep swing as above solution, but 2 more Duchies:
21 + 5 + 12 + 9 = 47
48 - 15 = 33

final score: 47-33

[Cave-o-sapien]

Hey, I remember that game!

[Titandrake]

Here's what I did in the original game.


Down by 27 VP. Two Provinces is 12 VP. 15 VP from Keep + any extra VP is enough for the win.

Currently have 0 Silvers to 1 Silver, and 2 Treasure Troves to 2 Treasure Troves. I didn't bother tracking the Copper or Gold splits, because Treasure Trove really makes those confusing. The first 2 Silver gains are each worth 5 VP (first gains me 5 VP, 2nd makes them lose 5 VP). The first Treasure Trove gain is worth 5 VP. If I gain 2x Silver and 1x Treasure Trove, that's the 15 Keep VP I need.

I first need to get more gains --> Stonemason WW into 2 Stonemason.
Graverobber gains Silver.
Play City Quarter, draw rest of deck.
Stonemason Gold --> Treasure Trove + Silver.
That's all the treasures I need, and after playing Treasure Trove I'm going to have lots more Gold so I don't need to worry about Gold count --> Stonemason Gold --> 2x Duchy to get the extra VP needed to win.
City Quarter draws gained Treasures.

I will play 3 Treasure Troves this turn, which will gain 3 Copper. So I can trash up to 3 Copper without losing VP from Keep from the Copper split.
3x Forager trash 3 Copper.
4th Forager trashes 5th Forager.

That leaves plenty of money to buy the last 2 Provinces.

[jonaskoelker]

At 19:40, Adam is revealing Wandering Minstrel, Colony and Spice Merchant to a Wandering Minstrel. Remaining in his deck are Platinum, Gold and Peddler. Plan out the rest of his turn such that he wins the game. The payload part of Adam's previous turn, from 17:00 to 17:30, might provide a hint if you're stuck on one particular aspect. Watching from 19:40 onward will give a big hint.

(My solution is available as a youtube comment.)

[Dingan]

EDIT: Ah, just realized there's a pretty simple win here. But I did it the complicated way.

[Titandrake]

I'm confused how you have $9 here with 7 Grand Markets and nothing in the discard. I guess you bought Fleet as the first buy?

Given that you have the Outpost turn coming up, this is just 3 Urchin this turn, then 7 GM + Poor House = 8 buys and $16 for Estate pileout on the Outpost turn. I suppose you could also pile Poor Houses on the Outpost turn then buy an Estate on the Fleet turn, since you're guaranteed to draw at least 1 Poor House or GM on that turn.

[Dingan]

I may have thought it was more interesting than it actually was, as I didn't see the Estate pileout and it was my first time playing with Fleet