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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2016, 07:03:19 pm »
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i think that it is way more appealing on turn 2 than turn 1

Use your Baker token to get Legionary turn 1, then Borrow to get Wedding turn 2

Just empty the Supply in two turns!
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2016, 03:20:59 am »
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Would depend on what I want to buy and how frequent, no? And the other cards ib my deck, etc.
Obviously, but a single card giving a bigger amount of $ is usually pretty good (for instance: Platinum).

A hand with a single Gold needs $5 in 4 cards or $1.25/card in the rest of your hand for a Province.
A hand with 2 Silvers still needs $4 in 3 cards or $1.33/card in the rest of your hand.
So with the Silvers, the other cards have to provide a little more $.

Oversimplified, but you get the idea.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2016, 10:40:58 am »
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Buying Wedding (and Debt cards in general) is best when you are at the end of your shuffle. That way, you can maximize your purchase by having the Debt card help to pay off the debt.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2016, 04:48:20 am »
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Buying Wedding (and Debt cards in general) is best when you are at the end of your shuffle. That way, you can maximize your purchase by having the Debt card help to pay off the debt.

I'm not so sure about that.  If you want your debt card to give you a spike in power (in this case, the gold leading to an early $6/$7 turn), it can be easier on a blank debt slate.  That way you don't draw it at the start of the shuffle and have to use the turn to pay some debt leaving not enough money to do anything great.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2016, 08:28:03 am »
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Buying Wedding (and Debt cards in general) is best when you are at the end of your shuffle. That way, you can maximize your purchase by having the Debt card help to pay off the debt.

I'm not so sure about that.  If you want your debt card to give you a spike in power (in this case, the gold leading to an early $6/$7 turn), it can be easier on a blank debt slate.  That way you don't draw it at the start of the shuffle and have to use the turn to pay some debt leaving not enough money to do anything great.

I disagree with your disagreement.  I would rather get a 3/4 split than a 4/3 split on a Wedding board, and would rather get a 4/3 split on an Overlord board so I can get two good things in my deck before my first shuffle.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2016, 05:46:34 pm »
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That's interesting. As per my limited knowledge, I generally want to be drawing my Gold(s) more often than not in order to maximize the amount of money that my hands can make, and so I'd rather keep my deck as thin as possible, filling it with Gold and VP when I feel like my deck can take the fat. I'm assuming the 3 in the 3/4 split is generally for Silver?
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2016, 05:52:13 pm »
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That's interesting. As per my limited knowledge, I generally want to be drawing my Gold(s) more often than not in order to maximize the amount of money that my hands can make, and so I'd rather keep my deck as thin as possible, filling it with Gold and VP when I feel like my deck can take the fat. I'm assuming the 3 in the 3/4 split is generally for Silver?

The idea is, Gold / Nothing isn't a great opening, but decent card / Gold is a pretty good opening. You can only buy Wedding on the turn you hit $4, and you want two cards in that first shuffle.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2016, 10:08:19 pm »
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That's interesting. As per my limited knowledge, I generally want to be drawing my Gold(s) more often than not in order to maximize the amount of money that my hands can make, and so I'd rather keep my deck as thin as possible, filling it with Gold and VP when I feel like my deck can take the fat. I'm assuming the 3 in the 3/4 split is generally for Silver?

The idea is, Gold / Nothing isn't a great opening, but decent card / Gold is a pretty good opening. You can only buy Wedding on the turn you hit $4, and you want two cards in that first shuffle.
having 3 dept left over pretty much kills any chance of 5+ turn 3.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2016, 10:50:14 pm »
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I'm starting to think people are swallowing the Gold is OP with Wedding kool-aid. I don't think this event is all that good.

But wait, Seprix is that guy who hates Raid.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2016, 11:07:34 pm »
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I'm starting to think people are swallowing the Gold is OP with Wedding kool-aid. I don't think this event is all that good.

But wait, Seprix is that guy who hates Raid.
Well if it's between one gold and two silvers(no attack or points involved) gold is probably better especially when you want to hit biggest price points and you want to be thin.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2016, 11:12:07 pm »
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That's interesting. As per my limited knowledge, I generally want to be drawing my Gold(s) more often than not in order to maximize the amount of money that my hands can make, and so I'd rather keep my deck as thin as possible, filling it with Gold and VP when I feel like my deck can take the fat. I'm assuming the 3 in the 3/4 split is generally for Silver?

The idea is, Gold / Nothing isn't a great opening, but decent card / Gold is a pretty good opening. You can only buy Wedding on the turn you hit $4, and you want two cards in that first shuffle.
having 3 dept left over pretty much kills any chance of 5+ turn 3.

Debt isn't that bad. If you got something like Steward or Masquerade, you'll still have a productive second shuffle and you got to skip Silver, plus a point for later. I'm not saying Wedding is stellar, but I'll open it sometimes.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2016, 12:09:24 am »
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That's interesting. As per my limited knowledge, I generally want to be drawing my Gold(s) more often than not in order to maximize the amount of money that my hands can make, and so I'd rather keep my deck as thin as possible, filling it with Gold and VP when I feel like my deck can take the fat. I'm assuming the 3 in the 3/4 split is generally for Silver?

The idea is, Gold / Nothing isn't a great opening, but decent card / Gold is a pretty good opening. You can only buy Wedding on the turn you hit $4, and you want two cards in that first shuffle.
having 3 dept left over pretty much kills any chance of 5+ turn 3.

Debt isn't that bad. If you got something like Steward or Masquerade, you'll still have a productive second shuffle and you got to skip Silver, plus a point for later. I'm not saying Wedding is stellar, but I'll open it sometimes.

I think Limetime is suggesting that opening Gold/nothing can be better than Gold/$3 card pretty often because the former can pretty reliably hit $5 in the first shuffle whereas the latter may be stymied by that left over debt.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2016, 07:45:54 am »
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I agree that it might be annoying to it five on turn 3 having to pay off three debt, but forgoing a Steward play on the second shuffle seems much worse than not hitting five on most boards.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2016, 09:36:54 am »
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Who said this board had a three cost better than silver?
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2016, 10:19:32 am »
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How many % of the board don't have a two or three cost that is better than silver? Especially if your economy is a Gold?
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2016, 11:58:58 am »
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How many % of the board don't have a two or three cost that is better than silver? Especially if your economy is a Gold?

It can be better than Silver but still not worth having the debt block a $5. Steward is a really strong $3.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2016, 03:12:21 pm »
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Fun fact: Travelling Fair and Wedding nearly cancel each other out.

Explain?
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2016, 03:33:59 pm »
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Fun fact: Travelling Fair and Wedding nearly cancel each other out.

Explain?
If you travelling fair then wedding, you gain a gold putting it on top of your deck for 6, and use the gold next turn to pay off the debt. The only differences are the VP and one less card next turn.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2016, 09:48:58 pm »
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Fun fact: Travelling Fair and Wedding nearly cancel each other out.

Explain?
If you travelling fair then wedding, you gain a gold putting it on top of your deck for 6, and use the gold next turn to pay off the debt. The only differences are the VP and one less card next turn.

Borrow for a Wedding at the Fair
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Once per turn: If your -1 Card token isn't on your deck, put it there and +1 VP.
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2016, 09:22:35 am »
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Wedding is a great way to gain Gold, when Gold is a good gain.  It's important to remember though that Gold is often not the best card for your deck, and the fact that you're paying for it over two turns, and the 1 VP, which are great bonuses, do not automatically make the Gold a better card once it's in your deck. 
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Re: Let's Discuss Empire Events: Wedding?
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2016, 09:59:40 am »
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Wedding is a great way to gain Gold, when Gold is a good gain.  It's important to remember though that Gold is often not the best card for your deck, and the fact that you're paying for it over two turns, and the 1 VP, which are great bonuses, do not automatically make the Gold a better card once it's in your deck.

Sure! I certainly buy Wedding over a Gold (if I want Gold at all). The +1VP just seems a bonus.
I believe it is great for BM rush strategies once you can get the lead and the engine player may not catch up.
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